£100 per annum? More or less?
I'd pay that much.
[url= https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/great-britain/passports/how-to-apply-for-a-passport/ ]Seventy quid for a renewal [/url]
£350m a week.
30p per day? Where do I sign?
I'd pay that and be happy
It's going to cost more than that to lose it.
I'd pay £100 and I'd pay another £100 to make sure that no sneaky leave voting bastid gets one so they can have cheap holidays/booze cruises/buy stuff on the cheap.
Captainsasquatch outstanding amendment to the proposal... I second that **** em
Do we get to expel the [s]whinging gits[/s] formerly British, now Europeans in two years time? I'd be happy to sponsor a few.
Bugger all, as I'm not an EU citizen.
Nothing, I'm already part of the EU.
Ahhh 5thElephant you know you want to sign up, just think who will be left behind UKIPPERs, Daily Mail Readers and right wing pensioners - that's going to be a cracking night in the pub. You can all share your spite and resentment
Did anyone see the Nigel Farage piss take thing on the BBC? It's jolly funny.
Hopefully they'll all move to Australia. I'd like the place to myself. 😀
100 quid a year is a bargain.
Could I skip the visa queue at airports full of whining old Brexiters, proudly clutching their blue passports as the world literally and figuratively overtakes them?
Dunno, but I might cancel my STW sub if they allow another Brexit thread!
They won't get in to Australia to old,poor, unskilled and it would be too hot
They won't get in to Australia to old,poor, unskilled and it would be too hot
The most enthusiastic Brexiters I know are already there.
DezB Brexit is the reason STW thrives
Whatever it really costs me in taxes.
They should open it to expressions of interest now and see if we can get, say, 18 million before A50 is triggered just to wind up the Brexies.
The most enthusiastic Brexiters I know are already there
One of the main reasons I didn't like Australia was that it was full of racists and the attitudes to things like equality, worker's rights, women and immigrants were utterly despicable. No wonder brexiteers love it.
One of the main reasons I didn't like Australia was that it was full of racists and the attitudes to things like equality, worker's rights, women and immigrants were utterly despicable.
I assume you're talking about Essex?
£100 would be a bargain, would probably go a fair bit higher if needed.
It's not going to matter now.. The damage is done.
The laughing pig molester that called the pointless referendum in the first place must have received a fat retirement payout for pulling such a destructive stunt..
He'll not be remembered fondly in the history books when this all unravels..
We're damned if we do and damned if we don't now
£100 is a no brainer, ability to live in any other country and claim unemployment and other benefits - no brainer.
I imagine the cost would be closer to £5,000 than £100.
I met a lady today who had voted to leave because she'd bought a lampshade that, because it met EU lampshade regulations (?), hadn't fitted her 50 year old lamp without the purchase of additional adapting washers.
She (in her 80s) was annoyed that her kids were annoyed with her and was also - unduly, I felt - put out when I told her that my father in law had called his 4 kids and basically held a vote, saying to them that whilst he'd be inclined to vote leave, he understood that really it didn't matter much to him at 83, it was about their (and the grandkids) futures. As a result, he voted in.
Surely the question is how much are you prepared to pay to leave?
Why not just turn it round the other way?
If you voted leave, 20% tax hike on VAT and Income Tax.
Remainers could continue to pay what they pay just now, Leavers could pay the premium for sovereignty.
Win/Win?
I met a lady today who had voted to leave because she'd bought a lampshade that, because it met EU lampshade regulations (?), hadn't fitted her 50 year old lamp without her purchasing additional adapting washers.
and they don't let the under 18s vote for being too immature! WTF, they should ban anyone over 65 from voting for being senile.
Logan's Run had the right idea....
It'll be interesting if the country is made up of a mix of "British" and "European" citizens. How's that going to work? Different laws for different folks?
I imagine the cost would be closer to £5,000 than £100.
Try £350m x50/working population of UK - and that's without the rebates or other financial income from the EU.
It would work, if dystopian sci-fi is to be believed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_%26_the_City
I imagine the cost would be closer to £5,000 than £100.
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I think it's an ideal soloution 15 million people pay £100 to the EU to keep the right to roam/live £1.5 billion in the EU coffers has to be attractive per annum + all the tax paid for jobs and houses etc
Would pay a couple of hundred a year or a bigger amount as a one off lifetime membership.
Not bothered which, in paying it
Check out the cost of employing a non-EU citizen in EU countries, Captain, £5000 is not laughable. I employed a teacher from Peru in France. It was complicated and expensive until she got married. Check out thh cost to a US company of employing a Brit, if the company gets approval.
It only costs us £130.00 (per year) per head at the moment, so Jamba is way off the mark.
I can also see a fair number of multinationals actually requiring associate membership for employment (assuming it doesn't break the law) as without it would affect the ability to redeploy workers urgently
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Hire a Brit to work on a building site in the US and you stump up $580 straight off, legals fees and then have to pay the person the "prevailing wage" which is highly likely to be higher than the real market rate - it's not really in the interest of the authorities to set it lower is it.
Nothing, being a citizen alone does nothing for me. What will it do? Make getting through customs quicker? It was always much harder getting back home than leaving anyway. It's not going to let me trade with the EU as an individual, it's not going to strengthen our currency and it's not going to ensure my rights as an employee and as a human is protected.
I'd happily pay £100 per year or a larger one off payment for life. TBH I'd do it just to piss off the frothing idiots who are determined to crash the economy and make everyone's life worse because they stupidly think their own problems are caused by foreigners. The way this country is going, having a get-out clause would seem like a sensible option.
TBH I'd do it just to piss off the frothing idiots who are determined to crash the economy and make everyone's life worse because they stupidly think their own problems are caused by foreigners
Many a true word is spoken in jest - I think I would too!
Zilch, that's what.
Yep I'd have no problem paying
We have to pay a few thousand to employ non eu scientists in visa fees, it's stretching already tight budgets (sterling crash is already hurting enough as it is)
That's a one off fee though, still an annual sub would be great.
It would be a huge benefit to those that could afford it.
Unfair on those who couldn't though, Brexit is already driving a wedge through the country, id want it for my kids though.
[i]It only costs us £130.00 (per year) per head at the moment, so Jamba is way off the mark. [/i]
Not the first time...
For me, £100 pa is a no brainer - a bit like voting Remain was a no brainer.
[I]It would be a huge benefit to those that could afford it.
Unfair on those who couldn't though, Brexit[/I]
£2 a week? Shouldn't be anyone that couldn't afford it (if they really wanted to).
Jayne Adye, director of the Get Britain Out campaign, told The Independent: “This is an outrage. The EU is now attempting to divide the great British public at the exact moment we need unity.“It is totally unacceptable for certain citizens in the UK to subject themselves to laws, which are created by politicians who are not accountable for the British people as a whole.”
She either a) didn't think that through, b) is a bit thick, or c) is making things up for effect.
And people wonder why we think Brexies are (generally) not the brightest.
Or to go into analogy mode, having run the good ship Britain into the iceberg, the Brexiteers are now complaining about dodgy foreign ships offering to pick up survivors.
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I'd pay about 1p in every pound of my tax. Curiously this is about the same as I currently pay.
Even if I got no other benefit than watching DM readers go bright red with indignation, it would be easily worth £100 pa.
It'll be interesting if the country is made up of a mix of "British" and "European" citizens. How's that going to work? Different laws for different folks?
I'd imagine so, yes.
mefty - Member
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is Brexit going to take us back to pre-decimilisation as well as imperial measurements, newspaper fish n chip wrappers and saucy postcards instead of youporn.com ?
Just over a tenner a month to piss off the 'kippers?
Bargain!
I doubt EU will let you buy your way back into EU with your 100 quid or so monthly fees etc tbh.
I mean how degrading that is for the EU bureaucrats to be valued at the worth of 100 quid or so by their supporters, it makes the EU looks like a giant parasite with those sort of payment. Some of you even suggested free or a tenner etc ... 😆
I bet the EU bureaucrats are so very angry now with BritLand I doubt they will be able to distinguish the remainders from the rest of us.
To the EU bureaucrats you are(part of) us now.
I mean how degrading that is for the EU bureaucrats to be valued at the worth of 100 quid or so by their supporters,
a) its about what we all pay at the moment anyway
b) it was the chief EU bureaucrat negotiator that came up with the idea (as much to piss off whingy old brexiters im sure 😉 )
but keep em coming
I doubt EU will let you buy your way back into EU with your 100 quid or so monthly fees etc tbh.
Only charging us £130 atm hth.
Some of you even suggested free or a tenner etc ...
Some of them might have been brexiters. 😆
I bet the EU bureaucrats are so very angry now with BritLand and I doubt they will be able to distinguish the remainders from the rest of us. To the EU bureaucrats you are part of us now.
That's why I'll happily pay another £100 on top to ensure that the brexiters aren't tempted to be hypocritical.
I'd pay more than £100. Cheap at the price!
kimbers - Member
I mean how degrading that is for the EU bureaucrats to be valued at the worth of 100 quid or so by their supporters,
a) its about what we all pay at the moment anyway
Yea, not anymore coz now they want pay back time.
Not sure who they are but I can understand why they do it.b) it was the chief EU bureaucrat negotiator that came up with the idea
but keep em coming
Honest question...if were out of the EU what's the point in paying for EU citizenship? Totally understand the logic if you work/live over there, or visit frequently. But assuming it's just heading over for the odd holiday?
Whole thing seems a complete mess.
Yeaa, the question is not about paying more than £100 but the actual maximum the EU can harvest from BritLand before the feed dry off.captainsasquatch - Member
That's why I'll happily pay another £100 on top to ensure that the brexiters aren't tempted to be hypocritical.
They want to speed through the queue at the immigration apparently.dalesjoe - Member
Honest question...if were out of the EU what's the point in paying for EU citizenship? Totally understand the logic if you work/live over there, or visit frequently. But assuming it's just heading over for the odd holiday?Whole thing seems a complete mess.
Honest question...if were out of the EU what's the point in paying for EU citizenship? Totally understand the logic if you work/live over there, or visit frequently. But assuming it's just heading over for the odd holiday?
support something we believe in
can we keep our E111 too?
visa free travel and work, lets be honest skiing/mtbing etc is better in europe, we collaborate with labs in France and Germany so it'd be great for researchers.
avoid tedious passport queues
tax benifits of duty free etc?
how much to piss off brexiters? ................. its like barclaycard 😉
Whole thing seems a complete mess.
indeed, welcome to brexitland, as the brexiters had no f--king clue what brexit actually entailed when they voted for it- it was basically a huge leap in the dark- a mess is an understatement
Yeaa, the question is not about paying more than £100 but the actual maximum the EU can harvest from BritLand before the feed dry off.
I've told you about this before, the answer to a question is not "the question is...", the answer to a question is an answer.
What is the net contribution the UK makes to the EU? Try [url= https://www.google.co.uk/ ]here.[/url]
Dalesjoe - in my case to preserve my ability to retire to the alps (may be possible anyway, but this makes it easier), and to preserve my son's ability to do a season in the alps (may be possible anyway, but this makes it easier).
Also my (American) company looks for opportunities in Europe, so being able to work there at the drop of a hat is useful career wise.
We're across a few times a year on holiday so possibly worth it for that too.
And most of what Kimbers said - though I think the EHIC card / E111 is not actually an EU thing (correct me folks) so that might stay anyway. Bit like ECHR.
Chewkw - I assume you wouldn't pay (though Jamba might). Fine. Not a problem. We didn't want you anyway. 😉
And for the two sets of laws comments, not really everyone in Britain would be subject to British law, whatever citizenship they had, and everyone in an EU country would be subject to EU law, whatever citizenship they had. The EU law would just say it recognised British citizens who paid their subs as having the right to work or reside of whatever. No biggy.
Okay, okay ... the answer, the answer. 😀captainsasquatch - Member
I've told you about this before, the answer to a question is not "the question is...", the answer to a question is an answer.
Definitely go for skiing.kimbers - Member
visa free travel and work, lets be honest skiing/mtbing etc is better in europe
Aren't they a bit high up? You cannot really ski the entire year you know.igm - Member
Dalesjoe - in my case to preserve my ability to retire to the alps (
It only costs us £130.00 (per year) per head at the moment, so Jamba is way off the mark.
How can I be off the mark estimating what the EU might charge, no one knows how they might look at it ? You are thinking of it completely incorrectly in terms of the UK budget contribution / population, that's totally irrelevant (calc is closer to £175 anyway fyi). The French pay zero net to the EU - so in the event of Frexit they'd pay zero, of course not ? The cost would be calculated vs the cost of providing UK bods access to European services without any of the significant EU benefits of them having access to UK makets tariff free. It has to be self financing.
Anyway it's all irrelevant as the statement was just made for publicity. They have no intention of doing such a thing, why would they it makes no sense ?
Okay, okay ... the answer, the answer.
So what is the answer to the net UK contribution to the EU which is about £8.5 bn per year?
You are thinking of it completely incorrectly in terms of the UK budget contribution / population, that's totally irrelevant (calc is closer to £175 anyway fyi).
Show calcs or fail.
Can't be arsed reading the serious and light hearted responses - but surely we're paying to get out. More or less on radio four will explain.
The whole immigration argument is a total farce. Know quite a few "Outers" not one of them voted out due to the "pesky foreigners"! Just hope common sense prevails and we keep freedom of movement. All the tit for tat is getting a bit tiresome, saddly I'm thinking it's only just starting!
Jamba - I make it £141 (ish). But you're right it depends what they charge. They have suggested it might even be free. Given that unless you are working there or retired there they wouldn't really be paying out much and in those situations they would be taking tax or revenue from you, they might well go with that. Immigrants boost the economy doncha know. 😉
Anyway it's all irrelevant as the statement was just made for publicity. They have no intention of doing such a thing, why would they it makes no sense ?
Well the amendment has been proposed I believe and it will therefore be voted on. Makes a good deal of sense if the tarif set effectively means relatively affluent people get access easily (the kind of people you Jamba would let into Britain anyway, but you'd have all the faff of a visa / work permit) but the hoi polloi can't. It effectively becomes a slicker version of your own immigration stance.
Also it messes with the Brexies
captainsasquatch - Member
Okay, okay ... the answer, the answer.
So what is the answer to the net UK contribution to the EU which is about £8.5 bn per year?
So are making profit out of our contribution? i.e. Are we taking back more than we contribute?
In another words are we taking back more than we put in?
(calc is closer to £175 anyway fyi).Show calcs or fail.
like the 350mil figure innit
They have no intention of doing such a thing, why would they it makes no sense ?
pissing off egomaniac expenses fraudsters like farage and hannan? a worthy enough goal imho
Know quite a few "Outers" not one of them voted out due to the "pesky foreigners"! Just hope common sense prevails and we keep freedom of movement.
I think you ought to tell May, Fox, redwood, Farage, mogg,...... they all seem to think its a red line
Simple question to all you remainders about EU contribution.
[b]When UK contributes to the EU are UK taking back more than UK put in?[/b]
Simple answer like "[b]more[/b]" or "[b]less[/b]" will do.
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Chewkw not understanding something that's quite simple shokka!So are making profit out of our contribution? i.e. Are we taking back more than we contribute?
A mate of mine stated a while ago that he felt that the electorate should be given intelligence tests before voting, at the time I disageed but now I'm not so sure. He works for the Home Office and has the inside track on the class f*** up that brexit is causing.
I said on the Trump thread that his followers were idiots, I have no reason to change my mind on that either. 😆
Culturally, financially, trade wise, direct or indirect, etc.
The question of a fool Chewkw - but then you know that
chewkw - Member
Simple question to all you remainders about EU contribution.When UK contributes to the EU are UK taking back more than UK put in?
Simple answer like "more" or "less" will do.
a complex situation reduced to a simple yes or know question and answer is what got us into this ridiculous brexishambles 😛