Horribleness in fil...
 

[Closed] Horribleness in films

101 Posts
46 Users
0 Reactions
238 Views
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

[i]gone too far[/i]

You sure?
[IMG] [/IMG]


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 10:43 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

[img] ?w=510[/img]


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 10:51 am
Posts: 21016
Full Member
 

I reckon the incestous rape in 'This is England' is possibly the most upsetting thing I've seen in fiction.
So powerful and amazingly well acted, but it put me off watching anything by Shane Meadows for a while.

Then I watched Four Lions and the ending of that, the sheer bloody pointlessness and stupidity of it all set me off again.

I just try and avoid stuff like that now, life is just too short.

The 'innocent bystander dies violently' scene is as old as film itself though.
The pram rolling down the steps in Battleship Potemkin is the first example I can think of. The language of film is pretty much solely composed of cliches today, sadly.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 11:00 am
 emsz
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Can't do sex in mainstream movies now, porno on the net has pretty much made it pointless, so all they have is violence.

Hollywood films are made by men for boys.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 11:16 am
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

[i]Hollywood films are made by men for boys.[/i]

Like Sex in the City 2 and Mamma Mia eh?


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 11:17 am
Posts: 56902
Full Member
 

Try this one for an evening light entertainment

[img] ?w=500&h=762[/img]


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 11:22 am
Posts: 10340
Free Member
 

There's a reason it's on the increase.
It's because the political, social and economic climate is unstable.
What settles us is seeing black and white, good and evil, having fear.

I find it lazy and preachy, but I also don't watch the news. I accidentally hear the news on the radio sometimes and it's amazing what is described in detail during the day as if we 'need' to hear it.

It's not just films and fiction. It's everyone's filter for passing on information.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 11:32 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

As they say what has been seen can't be unseen, it still haunts me now.

I can't cope with the news when they linger on things like this any more - I turn it off straight away (my girls are 7 and 4).


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 11:47 am
Posts: 30656
Free Member
 

Hollywood films are made by men for boys.

So women cannot enjoy, for example, an action film? Never took you for a sexist, Emsz.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:15 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

[i]It's because the political, social and economic climate is unstable.[/i]

I think it's actually not, but making films about the effect of a percentage point change in the mortgage rate, or that difficult choice between Birkenstocks or Crocs wouldn't really have the same impact...


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:19 pm
Posts: 41395
Free Member
 

I find the whole "I'd like to watch a film with violence in it, but only if it's sanitized" a little hypocritical.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:23 pm
Posts: 91108
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Personally I think more films should be challenging to the viewer.

Challenging isn't the same as simply shocking.

So women cannot enjoy an action film, for example?

That's not what she said. I think most films and indeed mass market products are targeted at particular demographics. They generalise, but there's no other way of targetting something.

I'm sure the people who make the action blockbusters know that many women will watch the films, but they will have a strategy when making it to appeal to male stereotypes.

Many films are targetted at women too of course, probably an equal number I would expect. And some are aimed at both genders.

I find the whole "I'd like to watch a film with violence in it, but only if it's sanitized" a little hypocritical.

I hope you appreciate that's not my stance.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:24 pm
Posts: 8602
Free Member
 

Eden Lake 🙁


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:39 pm
 GW
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Why watch films with adult content in the first place if you are so easily upset? 😕
reviews are easily available online to allow you to censor your own viewing matter or just stick to PGs in future.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:49 pm
Posts: 11381
Free Member
 

INRAT but...

Just started watching Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. The opening scene is two spies meeting in a pavement cafe, and it results in a shooting. First they show all the bystanders, one of whom is a young mother feeding a baby. Well the lady gets accidentally shot by the gunman's first effort... well I won't expand further but the camera lingered on the results for a good few seconds. It was one of the most heartbreakingly awful and terrible things I've seen on fictional TV, so the question is why the hell is it in there? Doesn't seem to have anything to do with the plot, it's just some kind of awful eye candy or something.

This is supposed to be entertainment, what the hell is wrong with you people? Jesus wept.

Needless to say it's totally put me off the movie, I can't bring myself to concentrate on it any more...

You utter pansy


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 4:51 pm
Posts: 30656
Free Member
 

That's not what she said

Yes it was.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 5:26 pm
Posts: 91108
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Why watch films with adult content in the first place if you are so easily upset?

As above, Film 4 sent it to us. Mrs Grips wanted to relax with a grown-up film for a change. I didn't really fancy either film tbh but we put it on anyway.

You utter pansy

Fk off.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:28 pm
Posts: 41395
Free Member
 

Fair play OP, you've had quite a flaming, but stuck to your guns.

I wasn't targeting you above BTW.


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:31 pm
 GW
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Only yourselves to blame then really, eh?


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:34 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

If you're easily upset you should stick to Disney films. Bambi for example.....oh wait, maybe not! 🙂


 
Posted : 30/03/2012 8:52 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Molly id have to disagree on the shocking vs challenging thing... How to you challenge an audience as desensitised as the modern western world, without shocking them into paying attention to something? You seem fine with characters being shot but when it's driven home to make you consider that character as human you couldn't handle it.... Would you have even considered it if she had been shot and the action just carried on as it would in any other film? As a parent it shocked you then challenged you to the point you didn't want to watch the rest of the film... Quite an impact! I didn't even remember her being killed until I read the thread as it didn't shock me to then challenge me... That probably says more about me than you though lol


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 7:35 am
Posts: 40432
Free Member
 

I would be more concerned about all those torture porn films that the kids these days are watching.

Sounds like the film you are complaining about depicts violence in a more responsible manner than most Hollywood movies.


 
Posted : 31/03/2012 10:00 am
Page 2 / 2