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I've just spent €550 on two 4m lengths of directional speaker cable.
Will I die?
Religious reasons?
Thanks for sharing.
Did you demo a few?
I'd be interested in how you came to choose something so, er, inspirational.
You won't die immediately, but when you eventually do, you'll definitely go to heaven for your altruistic donation to someones retirement plan.
So good on you for that.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Or an idiot. But I'm going with option 1.
Make sure you have them the right way round.
I can't believe that you spent so little. Clearly a troll.
Coat hanger wire sounds just as good.
I’ll bite.. ‘coz it’s entertaining (and I’m a geek)
how much would you wager that in a blind test you could differentiate - and put in the right prIce order...
Your exotic cables the right way around
Your exotic cables the wrong way around
My £60 worth of 2 x 7m of van dame 4mm
Twin & earth
Earlier this week i sold 8m of old coat hangers soldered together and coated in melted down Panaracer Cinders (26x2.1 flavour BTW). Got a great price for it.
Was all the OP deserved really. Poor quality workReligious reasons?
Tee hee. Bit troll-y I suppose, but I actually did spend that
System sounds at it's full potential now since the change of speakers compared to how it performed with the old cable!
The cable only improves after "burn in" time, apparently so I'm quite excited about that.
Happy days.
+1 for the Van Damme.
Used to play with cable till I looked inside my expensive amp and speakers....
Surely there must be some £2k per metre coat hangers that will truly exploit the systems full potential?
Interesting to know what that 'burn in' time is. My set up seems to have improved incrementally for years after I bought it. Might be self-delusion but others have said the same.
100 hours of musical use, apparently.
So what do you do to run it in?
Turn it on mega loud, then go on holiday?
100 hours is quite common. I work for www.luminmusic.com and that's what we recommend and was mirrored by my own findings.
At least you can burn a streamer in 24/7 silently, whereas your speaker cable however...
BTW you deliberately never told us what you bought 🙂
Enjoy 🙂
Chord Epic.
Will you be rewiring your ATCs?
Already developing the "Trapped On The Sofa" syndrome and I've only just had breakfast...
These threads always make me wonder what it is exactly people are listening to.
ive been obsessed, to varying degrees, with music most of my life. Some of my earliest memories are listening to the radio with my mum (Lee Marvin, wondering star) and certain tracks (Scott Walkers Always coming back to you for instance) can transport me to a particular time and place.
My ‘system’ comprises of a Marantz network cd receiver (apparently) and a pair of Mission MX-1 speakers. Sat on a ‘media unit’. It’s good enough that I can hear the background noise on Arvo Parts Symphony No 4 that pisses off some people on the amazon reviews. I’m pretty sure it cost less than woppits cables yet I’m happy.
so, what am I missing?
They made the music come alive?
£500 can buy a lot of weed.
That would make a lot more difference to your hifi.
How do they compare to Super Lumina?
tried cable lifters yet 😉
I've got some Avantgarde Zero speakers on home dem at the moment, going to cry when they go back
All these people having a whinge: I assume you’re all using Deore on your hardtail with 26” wheels?
This. Spent all the money on the (speaker) cables.
The cable only improves after “burn in” time, apparently
That's convenient innit.
All these people having a whinge: I assume you’re all using Deore on your hardtail with 26” wheels?
I was gonna post something about Deore cables, which I do use on my expensive FS bike - but posh ones are actually measurably better and don't cost £500, for those who choose to use them.
“but posh ones are actually measurably better“
Really? Some people would say that about speaker cables too
@zokes: nope, (deore or slx brakes, slx group set though) but I’m not running £500 cables neither...
and, 29er and B+ Wheels all demonstrably ride different... 🤣
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 16px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: #eeeeee;">Some people would say that about speaker cables too</span>
But only after a 100hours burn In apparently 🤣
Really? Some people would say that about speaker cables too
Tell us about the measuring system?
pics or it did't happen!!
The religious parallels are strong indeed ☺. Many parallels with the more consumerist aspects of Scientology.
Mr Woppitt worships Julian and Ivor. Not sure if he sees them as living gods or merely prophets.
He is inclined to follow their teachings.
I'm interested in how far his faith influences his behaviour. Does he flirt with other philosophies, perform experiments to test the truth of his doctrine and the depth of his own belief?
“Tell us about the measuring system?”
Ears. Now what’s the measuring system for subjective performance increases XTR gives over Deore?
Ears. Now what’s the measuring system for subjective performance increases XTR gives over Deore?
im reminded of an experiment in first year secondary school science class with beakers of hot and cold water and sticking yer fingers in then asking which finger was hotter or colder in the same air... we humans are poor measuring systems.
plus, my original question was a genuine one, what am I missing?
Turn it on mega loud, then go on holiday?
feed it a sine wave and crank it up. Neighbours will be pleading for you to play loud music in no time
“we humans are poor measuring systems.”
We are indeed, which was why I raised the point. We’re quick enough to get defensive when someone says “it’s just a pushbike”. People in glass houses and all that
My point is I ain’t spending £500 on “cables” on my bike(s) either. And if you were, I’d be asking the same questions about that! 🤣
I assume you've already fixed the room acoustics since that has a much bigger effect on the sound than cables ever could.
“My point is I ain’t spending £500 on “cables” on my bike(s) either. ”
I meant the group set, not the cables. Tested blind and set up well, I doubt anyone would tell the difference between Deore and XT. One or two might, and I’d ask them how. And they’d respond with some highly subjective reasons.
Just like speaker cables.
Erm, 10 vs 11 speed? I think even I might notice that.... 🤣
plus there are aesthetic reasons why you might favour one over the other. You spending £500 on cables coz you think they look better and weigh less? And you’re not making comparative comparisons as Deore vs XT is more what type of amp/speaker/tointable/etc...
i can justify spending £600 on a wheelset over a £200 one as one is hand built, adjustable axle ability, rim width of my choice and spokes more suited to my weight....