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If she cheats on you then you need to take a good percentage of the blame IMHO. Going after the other bloke is you not being able to face that.
"Girls just dont have a one night stand as they fancy a 'shag'"LOL, yes they do.
I was generalising. I mean if they were in a long relationship- the reasons would have to be more complex surely?
'WHY'
He either fancies or wanted to shag your partner I expect. Really you need to be asking her why.
[i]For a girl to stray though its not always 'just sex'.[/i]
I don't think it's "just sex" for men, frankly. Isn't it to do with having someone else bolster your self-esteem by giving you something to dream about which isn't dependant on the same fat-assed dullard who's been dragging you down for years? ๐
No way would i be able to forgive. I've been there and couldn't/wouldn't put myself in that situation again.
IMO if a relationship means that little to your partner and they are prepaired to do something like that they are not worthy of being with me, I deserve more than that. Its a betrail of trust as far as I'm concerned ๐
The problem with this scenario is we all "think and believe" we all are perfect in keeping relationships - and boys and grils we aren't. Marriages, relationships break up for all manner of reasons not just flings and sometimes no matter how hard someone works at it, it still doesn't work. My ex had an issue with her age, all the women in her family died before they were 60, an hereditary illness. She felt she had things to do before she popped her clogs so she had an affair and left our kids! And no, I would never have her back. But that said I've not been squeaky clean and so it's the case of those without sin and the stone throwing crap. Before you make a quick judgement on your partner, please be honest with yourself and see how you have been and behaved etc. I truly believe there are very very few people who haven't done something they wouldn't like their partner do, even it was a drunken kiss/grope etc etc. Love the Life Of Brian picture - absolute classic ๐
Girls just dont have a one night stand as they fancy a 'shag'.
do we know this for a fact ? I think actually women are just as prone (haha) to this as men
If she cheats on you then you need to take a good percentage of the blame IMHO.
Sorry but this mentality is bollocks imo. Relationship problems need communication. If she dealt with it by shagging someone else then I'd cut her out of my life like a tumour.
NO mark no woman alive can seperate her emotions form sex ...it is one of the main reasons that we dont have aporn indusrtry or prostitution anymore. How is 1970 by the way? Will you take your medallion off before the fight or choke him with it during it?
And yes mark clearly all men can have sex without emotion... I feel so embarressed now apparently I have been letting the side down all my life.
Mister P - MemberIf she cheats on you then you need to take a good percentage of the blame IMHO. Going after the other bloke is you not being able to face that.
In some cases, yes you might be to blame in part (violence to partner, emotionally cold etc etc) however if someone cheats then they are looking (possibly) for something that you couldnt have given them anyway. You need to find out as much detail* as possible as a simple 'forgive' wouldnt work either.
*Pics and vids not included you dioty-STW lot ๐
Hora's forever trying to shag me. He just won't accept the fact that I'm well out of his league
Good points of view all round. I can appreciate Hora's "wounded animal" approach to the problem and I couldn't say 100% that I wouldn't feel that way too. However, much as it shocks me, I find myself agreeing with Mr. Barnes again on the concept of forgiveness. But surely if you love someone so much that you could forgive them it's only fair to expect them to love you enough not to stray.
[i]they are looking (possibly) for something that you couldnt have given them anyway. You need to find out as much detail as possible[/i]
So this is a form of learning from experience, rather than mere honour killing?
You'd hunt this guy down, and then whine "what were you giving her that I couldn't? Help me be better so that I deserve her love" ๐
STW adopting the morale high ground shocker ๐
There's a girl! Quick, catch it and ask it to tell us its secrets! ๐
Go BD top form today Sir ๐
Lets not get away from the fact - Its the ultimate betrayal.
Another bloke sticks himself into every conceivable hole of your once fair-missus. Rides her like there was no tomorrow and makes her scream his name from the tops of the trees to the ground that shakes from the movement of the bed.
To those that say they would talk it through and forgive. Tripe.
Mark, again your putting the focus on this other guy and not your knicker-dropping, philandering, reverse-cowgirling girlfriend
Chuckle at BD's last few posts!
I'm now happily married and hopefully won't have to face any of this ever again (!) touch wood.
Back in the day though, I've been on both ends of the cheating stick. A girl I was absolutely infatuated with went travelling, came back and told me straight out that she'd had a one night stand. I got over it, forgave her and eventually she asked me to marry her. I didn't, but that was down to me not being ready - the marriage would've meant moving abroad too...
I've also been a cheating toe-rag (in another life!) and wouldn't have expected any sympathy had I been caught - I eventually was BTW and got all I deserved.
If my wife did the dirty, I think I'd find it very, very hard to forgive and forget....
OK guys, here goes. Men have been known to be unable to keep it zipped up, women likewise ๐ฏ Men don't have the monopoly on sex (awaits ribald comments).
There's loads of reasons why this could happen, we are not perfect, we all have egos and sometimes it can just happen. Moment of madness anyone?
You need to know WHY it has happened, you need to communicate cos most of the time people don't.
Mark, again your putting the focus on this other guy and not your knicker-dropping, philandering, reverse-cowgirling girlfriend
True. The only thing you could do is leave/end it asap. You might be able to retrue a wheel but you can't fix one with a cracked rim. 8)
There is always the fear that it actually turns you on....you ask her to film it next time and you become one of those wierd "peeping out of the wardrobe door'types that you never knew you were before until it happens... ๐ฏ
But surely if you love someone so much that you could forgive them it's only fair to expect them to love you enough not to stray.
love need not be symmetrical or contingent. If I were to be relatively unconcerned about infidelity then straying wouldn't be out of the question so long as my partner was sure it wouldn't affect our relationship.
i'd leave her. i'd expect that she'd leave me if i done it to her.
both very trusting though. lived apart for a long time and wouldn't see each other for long periods. each have a varied group of friends. she's got a couple of good male friends and i've good female friends.
not jealous. we respect each other.
i would kill her though.
You'd hunt this guy down, and then whine "what were you giving her that I couldn't? Help me be better so that I deserve her love"
Teehee!
I was wrong though. Hora's purpose in hunting the guy down is to get him to describe every lick and tickle, every thrust and grind, every bump and wriggle, every howl, all the throbbing, flapping, bouncing, tearing, gaping, begging, squirting, gushing and splattering in excrutiating detail. I'm still not clear why that would be good. ๐
cinnamon_girl - MemberSTW adopting the morale high ground shocker
I'm adopting no 'high-ground' whatsoever!!! How dare you! I resemble that comment!!! ๐
It's working for me BD! Don't stop when i'm so close.
LOL at BD. I dont want to type on a forum what I'd do. You never know if the prosecution might use this one day ๐ฏ
It's just sex.
Arghhh my pedantry meter is going into overdrive!!!!
'morale high ground'
'resemble that comment'
Are these supposed to be jokes that I am missing somehow? ๐ก ๐ก
no one strike and your out! i'd expect the same treatment too.
It's just sex.
I think one day we all hit a certain age where we'll see it as that.
What IF she turns round and says 'why not, Errol has a 12 inch monster' ๐ณ
BigDummy - What ever you had for breakfast/lunch? I want some.
tick!!OK guys, here goes. Men have been known to be unable to keep it zipped up, women likewise Men don't have the monopoly on sex (awaits ribald comments).
tick ๐There's loads of reasons why this could happen, we are not perfect, we all have egos and sometimes it can just happen. Moment of madness anyone?
tick.You need to know WHY it has happened, you need to communicate cos most of the time people don't.
i was tempted to put this same thread up last week, and have just had a txt
"wondering if you have a stw alter ego...."
ive gone through a few phases in the past year (almost to the day)
currently hoping your all wrong (other than CG) ๐
Bunnyhop - MemberBigDummy - What ever you had for breakfast/lunch? I want some.
Sausage sandwich?! ๐
Lol. tanky
BD - wonderful.
Hora - you seem very insecure to me.
I will raise my head over the parapet once more:
Twenty years ago I did have a brief fling with another woman. My wife found out, we argued like mad, we stayed together. I think that our relationship actually improved afterwards, as I appreciated what I had nearly lost much more than before.
So, forgiveness worked in our favour.
And I reckon I'd forgive her, too.
No. Did it once before & it ate away at me until we did eventually split. She'd had numerous older blokes behind my back. I was a stupid naive 21yr old at the time. We did the "separate-rooms" bit till I moved out, & to get even I brought someone back one night & made her listen to us in the next room.
Did I get an instant release of all my anger, frustration & hurt...did I heck.
Just made it even worse.
If your missus has been unfaithful face the fact & move on. I'll bet if you were asked on your death-bed, whether you should have spent all that time mulling it over, talking through etc etc or simply moved on you'll have wished you'd moved on.
Of course I had no kids at the time, if I found my Wife had cheated I'd divorce her. And no doubt get shafted by the CSA just as she did by whatever ****er decided to have her.
My relationship with my girlfriend recently ended after 5 1/2 years, because she no longer loved me. I was willing to try and see if we could patch things up, then I accidently found out she had been cheating for a month & a half before she ended it. I have to say my feelings about her changed entirelly, I could not believe how angry I was that she cheated and lied to me. I would not want to spend my life with someone who would do that.
So I am in the no way gang, I would never cheat on a girlfriend and I expect likewise, otherwise what the hell is the point in being together!
OK the soap box is free for someone else now.
Hora - you seem very insecure to me.
Same here.
If I was Hora's girl, and he eventually took that which he's been beating off with a shitty stick for years, I'd forgive him. As Joni sang..."You don't know what you've got till it's gone"
Latest episode of [i]Peep Show[/i] had this well covered.
[i]juan - Member
Hora - you seem very insecure to me.
Same here. [/i]
Same.
Kev