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 diz
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Posted : 22/05/2021 8:55 pm
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Why can't I post images. Arrr


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 8:57 pm
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An image link should end in .jpg normally.
That looks more like a web link.

Is it Norwegian?


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:01 pm
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Is it the one behind the Nationwide in Swindon?


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:02 pm
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Is it the one behind the Nationwide in Swindon?

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Posted : 22/05/2021 9:05 pm
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Logs


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:31 pm
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something slow growing like Oak.
not fast growing like smooth bark Ash.
fruit tree?
(I know diddly squat)


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:37 pm
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Northern red oak is my guess


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:40 pm
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Alder is my guess. Split enough of it over the years


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:45 pm
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Yeah alder looks like a good guess to me too. Bark looks right for alder. Pale timber. Orange sapwood.

Edit: not sapwood. I mean Cambium. Orange cambium. Important to get these things right 🙂


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:53 pm
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Alder +1


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:53 pm
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They all seem to be saying Alder so I will too, unless it is baby robin


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:55 pm
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If you had a pic of it growing it would be a lot easier. Alder likes a good wet spot.


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 9:58 pm
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I can get a picture of where it was cut from tomorrow thanks for the answers so far.


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 10:08 pm
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not sapwood. I mean Cambium. Orange cambium. Important to get these things right

The Cambium is only a millimeter or two thick, just under the bark between that and the sapwood.
This one I'm not entirely sure is Alder, given the knots are small and grouped. More reminiscent of oak.
Plus the grain is tighter, closely spaced, whereas on alder its further apart 😕

I'll not be putting money on it, but I'd suspect its fresh oak.

Another way to id is from the endgrain. Have you a pic of that ?

Alder -
https://www.wood-database.com/european-alder/

Oak(obviously its not red)
https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/

What are you thinking of doing with it ?. turning ?.


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 10:37 pm
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I will get some end grain pics tomorrow with the location pictures. I've split a load of it, dropped some of to be milled into planks and their is still loads left.


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 10:45 pm
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Makes nice planks. I made my bed from a large alder out of one of my dingles I thinned out


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 10:50 pm
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Looks like fire wood to me 🙂


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 10:55 pm
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If not alder, could be birch.


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 11:02 pm
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My vote is oak. Oak has a lot of sapwood which is paler than the characteristic brown colour of oak heartwood. A small oak log like that would be mostly sapwood. Knots and bark also look like oak.
Alder bark looks more like cherry.


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 11:04 pm
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The Cambium is only a millimeter or two thick, just under the bark between that and the sapwood.

You’re right, I’m not even sure now.

Anyway OP, seeing as you’ve got sight of the actual blinking tree get us a picture of a leaf then it’ll be dead easy.


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 11:43 pm
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get us a picture of a leaf then it’ll be dead easy.

If you can see the picture, that is…


 
Posted : 22/05/2021 11:49 pm
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The site with the tree is 100 miles away but I will be there later today.


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 11:33 am
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The pippy bits are common in stuff that puts out epicormic shoots, of which alder is one.
Must be fresh cut and split as alder goes quite red as it oxidises.
Bark looks quite chunky, so could even be a walnut or poplar if that is old. Whole trees help with ID as mentioned. Alder likes the wet.


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 1:27 pm
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I'm going to throw my hat into the ring here, the little puppy bits inside make me think of freshly split hawthorn, big old hawthorn the way the bark looks and how it looks across the x-cut face.


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 10:25 pm
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Ps Alder does not look like Cherry.


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 10:27 pm
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I’m ridiculously excited to see a pic of the tree.


 
Posted : 23/05/2021 11:37 pm
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I think like Timber and am saying poplar.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 5:51 am
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Absolutely, definitely Alder!


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 8:13 am
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The trees that have been cut down and I linked to the split timber previously are the same as the one in the picture.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 7:35 pm
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That leaf looks like Black Poplar


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 7:54 pm
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So far I'm leaning towards Black Poplar.
That's just been reinforced by grums above post.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 7:56 pm
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Poplarfrom the leaf

Alder gets really red when you first cut it, much more than the pics above


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 8:03 pm
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Oh cripes, I said it would be easy with the leaf but that could be a poplar or alder leaf. Hang on, I’ll go fetch the book. Thanks for the pics!

PS the leaf is photographed against a background of oak. No shadow of a doubt. Can I have a bonus point?


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 10:20 pm
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I’m finalising my vote on alder. The leaf is similar to poplar, but poplar looks more finely toothed in my book (literal book of tree id). Looks like a nice damp ditch for an alder. I noticed the pippy grain and see it again in the tree pics, this is what made me think alder originally. I now know these are called epicormic shoots, cheers timber.
I’m pretty happy it’s alder. Sighting an alder cone on the ground beneath would be a dead cert. fancy another long drive? I could def be wrong, poplar and alder are not so different.

I’m not an expert - keen amateur clearly.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 10:47 pm
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I’m finalising my vote on alder.

I'm still standing by my assertion that its fire wood. The question was 'identify this wood' 🙂


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 11:10 pm
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@maccruiskeen more like biomass woodchip as that's black poplar.


 
Posted : 24/05/2021 11:58 pm
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If it is black poplar ( which is pretty rare now), and I think it may be from the photo, then they were very useful trees during the industrial revolution as they made particularly fine brake blocks on the horse drawn trams. I have a large specimen on my farm yard so will compare it tomorrow


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 12:05 am
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Used to be used for a quite few cart parts apparently as well as bit of a general use.
Pretty difficult to sell these days as such limited number of people want it. Slightly disappointing as a firewood.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 7:28 am
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they were very useful trees during the industrial revolution as they made particularly fine brake blocks on the horse drawn trams.

Good to know. My 4-pot Shimano pads are getting a bit thin and bike stuff is hard to get hold of atm.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 7:51 am
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As already stated it looks very much like poplar or possibly lime. If either neither are great burning woods as low btu's but o.k for spring and autumn burns. Get it split and get it stacked and it might be ready by autumn.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 4:47 pm
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After all that dissing of poplar timber, just remembered it's what I clad one of our internal utility walls with 😂

Left over floorboard milling session.


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 6:59 pm
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I'll give you a clue it's definitely not Alder


 
Posted : 25/05/2021 7:15 pm
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Tree and leaf are black poplar, looks like a native one from the burrs on the trunk.

One use in wagons was for the brake blocks because it doesn't burn readily. It goes black and chars but doesn't turn to ash, so good for making matches, but not great on the fire. Good for floorboards, truck beds etc. because it dents, but doesn't splinter.


 
Posted : 26/05/2021 9:44 am
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https://www.wood-database.com/black-poplar/


 
Posted : 26/05/2021 10:57 am