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This measuring thing is R&D for the future
Trouser Try On at Blazing Saddles in Hebden Bridge today from 11-4 if anyone is interested.
We're just assembling record decks and amps to provide some nice tunes too.
Tunes you say?
"Please don't go changing the fly and fit of those already ordered because some chubsters want them a bit floppier"
I wonder if you'd say that to my face.....
The reason why we would like decent size trousers is that YOU CANT BUY THEM. Everything is skinny fit nowadays so it's ok for people like you to go and buy a whole range of clothes. If you've got proper muscles (I used to be a sprinter) then nothing fits. I can't buy any jeans, and I mean ANY at all right now as nothing fits. My wife got me some jeans yesterday which were straight fit and were 2" too big on the waist but I can't get them over my thighs.
So if anyone comes along and says they can make us something to fit then we are going to be a lot keener than the skinny sticks like you, ok princess? 😉
The reason why we would like decent size trousers is that YOU CANT BUY THEM. Everything is skinny fit nowadays so it's ok for people like you to go and buy a whole range of clothes. If you've got proper muscles (I used to be a sprinter) then nothing fits. I can't buy any jeans, and I mean ANY at all right now as nothing fits. My wife got me some jeans yesterday which were straight fit and were 2" too big on the waist but I can't get them over my thighs.
Not a sarcastic reply -
Try shopping in Patagonia, company, not country - I've the exact same problem, used to be a track sprinter and still spend too much time on a SS. My calves don't play well with most modern trousers. My quads are the bane of my clothing life. I can't/don't shop off high street for this reason (mostly).
The Patagonia fit tends to work with those with muscular lower legs and thin waists. Hence most of my trousers come from there - other reasons ethically to but that's a choice thing. Arc'teryx come close, RAB can be hit and miss, Montane a bit too techy looking but work well. Vulpine sometimes work...sometimes.
Of down to Blazing now to see what size fits exactly,and work from there. At this stage I'm used to sizing up on the waist to make legs fit, then get them adjusted if needed.
Nice to see the shop busy this morning, good work boys :o)
If you've got [s]proper[/s] larger than normal muscles (I used to be a sprinter) then nothing fits.
so you'd rather the rest of us had great flappy tents because you have big thighs? 😆
Thanks to everyone who called in to see us today. We had great fun meeting you, showing off our trousers, playing records and drinking free beer. Cheers!
having now paid and sent in the sizing info, what's delivery schedule expectations?
Now that a few people have had a chance to try them on I wondered if anyone would be able to put my mind at rest regarding the size I have ordered.
I spend most of my life in 34" waist Diesel jeans, and the rest of my trousers/shorts are a mix of 34" and 36". Measuring a couple of my most comfortable pairs as per the website I came up with a waist of 37" so went with the 38", thinking it would be better to size up than down as shrinkage was mentioned. But 38" sounds hella big for someone who wears 34" jeans!
Would also love to hear about the delivery schedule (ordered about 10 days ago). I sort of assumed something would be said in the confirmation email to be honest.
Hello chaps, we're in the pub after a lovely day of running our pop up shop.
Measurements are as per our website. We had people visit us today who have tried on trousers having done the measurements and they have found the measurements to be correct.
Delivery date is as mentioned on the Kickstarter as well as on our current website. Have a look. We are shipping all orders from mid March. It's not that long. We'd love to have them made and shipping right now but we are working to what our factory can produce at this moment.
Cheers Ed
I might be dumb but I can't find eta on the website or the kickstarter page. I did look first!
That's fine - you're shipping from mid-March, which was what I wanted to know, but if it is on the website it's not obvious.
First para of main description on The 177 page says:-
A slim-but-not-skinny cut with a tapered leg, made from heavyweight moleskin with 100% cotton lining. Get in on the first batch of 177’s, shipping from mid-March 2016.
We'll try and make it clearer. Thanks for all your support.
Ah - I see that now. However - I'm not one of your common as muck 177'ers, I'm in for the original 176 batch. According to the Kickstarter email I got earlier this week your expected delivery is 'March' but given it was also asking for size info, I'm kind of assuming they haven't been made yet and I shouldn't be waiting for the postie on Tuesday 😉
Is it the same shipping schedule for the 176'ers as the 177?
The Kickstarter survey that we sent to officially collate data does say that we aim to ship rewards by 16th March.
Kickstarter only gives a month and year field for completion dates.
Are you the chap that requested number 14?
We had great fun meeting you, showing off our trousers, playing records and drinking free beer.
A Hoes Down.
It's good to know the measurements are as per the guide. I've never had a pair of 38" trousers before, been in 36" for years. Strange how all the 36"-labelled trousers measure up as 38". Fellow trouser wearers, we've been duped.
Fellow trouser wearers, we've been duped.
Theres an aspect of 'vanity sizing' in the industry, but also, unless you're Simon Cowel the waist band of your trousers doesn't actually go round your waist. So on most garments its really an 'effective' waist size in the same way as a bike frame would have an 'effective' top tube.
Just to add my two-penneth,I am 6'4" with a 33" waist and sorry Cougar, but I do have a 36" inside leg. Well 35 1/2" really but its near enough. And I am no Magic Johnson with a basketball more's the pity.
My problem being the wonderfully weird shape my parents made me is that very few trousers I try on actually fit. Nothing in Next has a long enough leg, nor M & S and most of the other high street shops. Now I love the idea of selling them unhemmed, I think all of us know someone who can do hem them to the right length or we could have a hack at it ourselves (it can't be harder than setting up a front derailleur properly, can it?) but while I'd love a pair of good moleskins, the price is just a bit on the high side for me.
I do hope your venture turns out well though, Ed and Brant, we need more innovation of this type.
very few trousers I try on actually fit
As a lanky top tip - Snickers (the workwear people not the chocolate bar) make most of their their stuff in 5 leg lengths, the longest being 37". A lot of their stuff is properly workwear in terms of holster pockets and knee pads etc. But they make a 'Service Chino' which is plainer / casualler (all be it in quite a robust workwear fabric) and is part of that sizing system (their jeans aren't) - anything of theirs with the size code '248' is 33" waist, 37" leg (and a 148 is 33"/35") and they're about £30
I've decided to get a pair of nice tight shorts made from the off-cuts once mine have been shortened. 🙂
Many thanks Ed and Brant.
Are you the chap that requested number 14?
I am - can I also have 'troublemaker' sewn in to the turn ups 😳
<awaiting "great strides in production" update>
Trousers. The debagging.
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Hebtroco Founder No.6
The bastards stuffed a load of Yorkshire tea bags in the pockets. Urrghhhh. I think there's a stray northerner somewhere round these parts I can pass them on to.
Mighty, mighty fine moleskin. I reckon these are chainsaw safe.
Enough drop in the gusset that my ballbag doesnt rub. A key concern.
I see what they mean by "slim fit" now. It doesn't mean: "crowbar me in, cut me out", it means there's not acres of spare cloth flapping about everywhere. Yet I can squat or touch* my toes and blood supply remains unaffected.
*I've never been able to touch my toes, but I can make a fist of it with grunting noises
I think there's an anti-change-falling-down-by-the-handbrake-flap in the left hand pocket. Sinisterly* there isn't one in the right hand pocket.
*bdum tish
I'm going to like these I think.
Full hipster points for the cover letter as well 🙂
courier/typewriter/typos/etc
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Got mine from the pub last weekend. Comfort was soon following.
I am the coveted #69
I am the coveted #69
skillz
Bloody tight though!!!!
Bloody tight though!!!!
this post is useless without a gusset photo.
you could add to your wardrobe with some selvage denim or a flasher mac from here:
[url= https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/267973823/community-clothing-make-clothes-create-jobs-restor?ref=project_tweet ]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/267973823/community-clothing-make-clothes-create-jobs-restor?ref=project_tweet[/url]
Apparently an "unable to deliver" note was left at home today. Getting excited.
Best calm down first, or you'll never get them on.
Hebtroco Founder No.6
Who is number 1?
Thanks for the link MrSmith, will look at that more closely later
😀
[i]Who is number 1? [/i]
*waves*
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Hebtroco Founder No.6
I am not a number, I am a HebTroCo trouserless man!
Thanks for the post Stoner. Me and Oxley were in Oldgate after, and before hand delivering some around town.
We are about 75% through shipment right now.
Great to see them out there with the awesome founders who helped us start this thing up again.
Mine are at the post office [b]AND I CAN'T GET THERE UNTIL FRIDAY![/b]
Weirdly I really want to know what number I am.
Weirdly I really want to know what number I am.
97
My mother's favourite number!*
*a lie.
WOW. OK, founder so invested in them being good, but lordy you need these trousers in your life! as Stoner says hey're just right around your legs, and are properly sized so take care on the sizing when you order. great weight, great cut, and it's true, random girls will stroke your legs
😳
78
must not buy more clothes
off to find my tape measure....
Is there going to be a second wave, after I missed the first?
Mine are having to journey to Hong Kong. I fear the excitement will have died down by the time they arrive, and no-one will want to see my gusset.
🙁
Is there going to be a second wave, after I missed the first?
You can buy them online now.
Mine are having to journey to Hong Kong. I fear the excitement will have died down by the time they arrive, and no-one will want to see my gusset.
I think they left yesterday. Thanks for your support.
(Oh. Support. That wasn't a gusset joke)