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[Closed] have we done this? Muslim vigilante gang!!!!

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9830281/Muslim-vigilante-gang-attacks-could-escalate-police-warn.html

I am not racist but if Muslims want to live in our Christian country surely it should us telling them how to behave not the other way round! I live in a very mixed culture part of the country. from first hand experiences they make no effort to integrate within the community instead separate them self forming what can only be described as ghettos. As a said we have a very wide range of cultures/races/religions and it may be different where you live.

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Posted : 31/01/2013 6:25 pm
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Tea anyone?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:26 pm
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It's after six, I'll have a beer, thanks. If I'm allowed one that is.

Oh, and I have no useful contribution to make.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:28 pm
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Boneheads in being boneheads shock.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:28 pm
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Which banee is tony?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:29 pm
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Same in Glasgow. They now call Pollockshields Banglesheilds.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:29 pm
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I'm not a huge fan of any religion least of all the Muslim religion, but wasn't it just a very small handful of Muslims who were condemned by most Muslim clerics in the country? I believe there's a passage in their Koran thing that says something like don't spoil the wine and pork of non Muslims? Some nonsense like that anyway.....


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:31 pm
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The footage showed members of an Islamic "vigilante" group hurling homophobic abuse at a man who was walking by himself in Whitechapel, east London, and telling him to leave their "Muslim area”.

Hooded thugs shout at the man, who appears to be wearing make–up, before one tells him: "Mate, don't you know this is a Muslim area. What's wrong with your face?" Another then shouts: "This is a Muslim area. Get out of here. You can't stay round here any more."

Nothing seems to have altered since the times of Quentin Crisp then, him of the Naked Civil Servant fame


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:31 pm
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Same in Glasgow. They now call Pollockshields Banglesheilds.

Haha! It's been known as that for more than 20 years now.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:32 pm
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There are @rseholes of every religion, and none, I don't think you can tar all Muslims with the same brush. Here's a quote from the article linked above:

"In a statement, the East London Mosque said: "These actions are utterly unacceptable and clearly designed to stoke tensions and sow discord. We wholly condemn them.” So there you go.

TS

PS The actions of the 'vigilante gang' are shocking.


 
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Posted : 31/01/2013 6:36 pm
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I am not racist but

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Posted : 31/01/2013 6:38 pm
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in other news

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-21265496 ]Family quits Bingham after anti-Muslim attacks[/url]

My wife and children were called names in the street like **** and tramp”

"The first incident was when the big, wooden cross, wrapped in ham, fell into the house after a knock at the door," said Mr Alam.

"The kids have been abused a number of times; the eldest had smoke blown in his face by an elderly local gentleman."


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:39 pm
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phew ! just in

have we asked about rayguns yet ?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:40 pm
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Us?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:42 pm
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Does anyone remember Blaggers ITA? They were part of a group of people who would duff up racists. Thing was the lead rapperist used to be a racist who would duff up black people.
In his new guise he found that the NME would love him and he could still have a ruck.
What im trying to say is certain people like a ruck and will hang their coat on the nearest peg.
I would gladly tell them to eff off though.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:43 pm
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All the queens swans have got bad aids and I blame it on the Muslims.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:43 pm
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some muslims are dicks.
some hindus are dicks.
some christians are dicks.
etc.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:45 pm
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All Richards are Dicks.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:46 pm
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I am not racist but

Ah the defence before the attack ..subtle I am sur eno one noticed
from first hand experiences they make no effort to integrate within the community instead separate them self forming what can only be described as ghettos.

what do the white people do ...they could live next to them but I assume they move away - it takes two to both integrate and not integrate.
why not move into the "ghetto" to [s]show them how well we accept them and integrate yourself[/s] tell them what to do

Do you think the brits in spain have integrated well into spanish culture or are they still moaning they cannot cook chips and wondering where to get the sun, baked beans and marmite?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:47 pm
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I am not racist but

Priceless 🙂

I remember back along when I lived in S7 Carterknowle Road had scrawled on it 'Whites Out'


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:48 pm
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Mmmm Mods on a tea break or something?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:52 pm
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I live in an area with an above average Asian population.

I'm not sure as I'd describe what's happening here as "integration." It's more sort of co-existing.

if Muslims want to live in our Christian country

We're a Christian country?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:53 pm
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marmite?

That's a serious issue for those of us planning lives abroad.


 
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Don't be ridiculous Vegemite is Marmites superior on all fronts.


 
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Postpones cooking tea


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:56 pm
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There is a mosque about 400 metres from my house and a fairly large asian population. Very little (if any) racial tension. I suspect this isn't the norm though.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 6:58 pm
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We should set up alternative vigilante groups to go into Muslim areas and force them to embrace English culture! They can bloody well drink Bacardi Breezers until they're sick, and have to read back issues of Razzle! That'll learn 'em! 😀


 
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We should set up alternative vigilante groups to go into Muslim areas and force them to embrace[b] English[/b] culture! They can bloody well drink Bacardi Breezers until they're sick, and have to read back issues of Razzle! That'll learn 'em!

RACIST

Cougar he lives near you. Same town I would imagine
there are loads of people you co exist with it is just that this "lot" have a certain dress sense and skin colour that makes it more obvious you co exist with them.
I dont go to pubs , church or Bingo or play Rugby or join a brass band nor am I a luvvy nor a metrosexual etc

I am not saying integration is not an issue but it is hardly no go areas.


 
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We should set up alternative vigilante groups to go into Muslim areas and force them to embrace English culture! They can bloody well drink Bacardi Breezers until they're sick, and have to read back issues of Razzle! That'll learn 'em

Recruiting now in Newcastle!


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:04 pm
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Surely it is not being racist to be anti-Muslim, or anti-Christian - it is religionist.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:05 pm
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Tell that to the Jews 😕


 
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Surely it is not being racist to be anti-Muslim, or anti-Christian - it is religionist.

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Tell that to the Jews

Yeah, but thats just because they only marry each other 😉


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:07 pm
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Ban all religion, biggest cause of war and death!


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:09 pm
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why can't they just intragate and be normal like us

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Posted : 31/01/2013 7:11 pm
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Ban all religion, biggest cause of war and death!

nope, i think you'll find that science and technology is the winner there


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:13 pm
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Cougar he lives near you. Same town I would imagine

There's more than one town up north. Northist.

there are loads of people you co exist with it is just that this "lot" have a certain dress sense and skin colour that makes it more obvious you co exist with them.

I see where you're going with this, but compare and contrast with, say, London. They (ie, Londoners) genuinely seem to be integrating as a community in a way that the rest of the country doesn't seem to be.

Here it doesn't feel like an integrated society; it's siloing, and you're starting to get separate little enclaves of Asian and Caucasian. Perhaps it's just a perception thing, I dunno? I'd struggle to put my finger on exactly what the difference is.


 
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Mmmm Mods on a tea break or something?

Something, like being racist maybe?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:20 pm
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Ban all religion, biggest cause of war and death!

nope, i think you'll find that science and technology is the winner there

I think you'll find that religion provides solace and hope to many in a world beleaguered by the scourge of religion.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:20 pm
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nope, i think you'll find that science and technology is the winner there

Ah yes, who can forget the atrocities and senseless loss of life in the bloody Videotape Format War of 1981.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:20 pm
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You'll take my betamax from my cold dead hands!

Personally I think we should ban disease and old age, they are terrible killers. And Brandon Flowers, for the same reason.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:21 pm
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Something, like being racist maybe?

Or, maybe they've gone out for a nice meal somewhere? A nice local restaurant, perhaps.


 
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I am not racist but if Muslims want to live in our Christian country surely it should us telling them how to behave not the other way round!

Oy vey. I shall ponder this on my way to Shul this Shabbos. I wasn't aware that the UK belonged to Christians.

Did somebody say 'in before the lox'?

Gefilte fish ball, anyone?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:23 pm
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[i]Something, like being racist maybe?[/i]

Eh?


 
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Ah yes, who can forget the atrocities and senseless loss of life in the bloody Videotape Format War of 1981.

It's still going on Sony will not let it die


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:23 pm
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What you need Junkyard is to enthusiastically embrace your native culture!!! You need a drunken fight outside a kebab house at 2 in the morning, followed by carnal naughtyness over a wheels bin (being careful not to drop your kebab).

Did you call my pint a puff? Are you looking at my birds Bacardi Breezer?!!! Eh?!!!


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:26 pm
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#knock knock knock

Can I come in? I brought a bottle!

As for the integration argument, it differs place to place. Leeds, really good integration and while there are communities and areas the lines are very blurred and never 100% either way.

Bradford the total opposite.

I have no insight into why.

Do we really think there aren't gang of white thugs too? They're not muslim gangs, they're not BNP gangs, or catholic, or protestant, or black or well dressed colour coordinated gay gangs (hey who knows?), they're just thugs and they come in all flavours.


 
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nope, i think you'll find that science and technology is the winner there

Right, loads of wars started in the name of "science and technology " LMFAO


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:28 pm
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Surely Sectarianism being talked about here not racism?


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:29 pm
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Can I come in? I brought a bottle!

I don't know, is it a brown bottle?


 
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'in before the lox'

Chapeau! (Or should that be "shtreimel"?)


 
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Shoreditch you say?....not a million miles from me, i can feel some mischievous behaviour coming on, what could i do in the 'muslim' area to antagonise the vigilante group....i do like to wind up a foaming at the mouth idiot and these guys seem ripe for the mickey taking!


 
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I don't know, is it a brown bottle?

green, containing red, El Bombero... that should get me in, and also really rare roast beef sandwiches... come on...


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:32 pm
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Muslim vigilante gangs
Surely the root cause is religion, again.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:34 pm
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what could i do in the 'muslim' area to antagonise the vigilante group

Ignoring them completely would probably be the worst thing you could do to them, as they would then be denied the attention they so obviously crave.


 
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I see where you're going with this, but compare and contrast with, say, London. They (ie, Londoners) genuinely seem to be integrating as a community in a way that the rest of the country doesn't seem to be.

Here it doesn't feel like an integrated society; it's siloing, and you're starting to get separate little enclaves of Asian and Caucasian. Perhaps it's just a perception thing, I dunno? I'd struggle to put my finger on exactly what the difference is.

Manchester still had it's 'Little Italy' (Ancoats) when I was growing up.
Still a massive predominantly Jewish area in North Manchester, and lots of areas were almost exclusively Irish Catholic - some still are.

We're a culture built on immigration and eventual integration -
integration/homogenisation happens when 'mixed' relationships become accepted, it's inevitable and a happy consequence of different cultures mixing and socialising.
This hasn't happened to a huge extent yet with the South Asian Muslim population in many Northern towns - not helped by the fact that fundamentalism in all religions has been exacerbated by global conflict over the last 30 or so years.

Give it time.

People fall in love, get married and cultures learn to live with each other. At least, I hope so.

Narrow minded ignorance on all sides doesn't help, but we need to realise that a peaceful multicultural AND integrated society requires compromise and a belief in shared ideals by all involved.


 
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Right, loads of wars started in the name of "science and technology " LMFAO

I was under the impression the self repeating rifle is the single most deadly invention known to mankind


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 7:36 pm
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I've brought a brown bottle too. Is Efes Muslim lager? As its obviously made by Muslims. I've often wondered that? Though I've never received a definitive answer. Anyone?


 
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Surly the root cause is religion, again.

No; the root cause is ignorance, fear and hatred. As it has always been, throughout human history.


 
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Ignoring them completely would probably be the worst thing you could do to them, as they would then be denied the attention they so obviously crave.

Thats what i was thinking....but while i enjoy a nice bottle of beer perhaps?


 
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I'm not sure as I'd describe what's happening here as "integration." It's more sort of co-existing.

Define the term 'muslim lands' and I fear there's a bigger issue looming than co-existing.


 
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No; the root cause is ignorance, fear and hatred. As it has always been, throughout human history.

I completely agree, but only as long as the fundamental ideals of the religious are not in conflict with the beliefs, laws and ideals of the society in which they wish to settle.


 
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integration/homogenisation happens when 'mixed' relationships become accepted, it's inevitable and a happy consequence of different cultures mixing and socialising.
This hasn't happened to a huge extent yet with the South Asian Muslim population in many Northern towns

Starting early in Rochdale eh?


 
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oh crikey this threads still going was sure when i spotted earlier it was going down in the 1st round but no still on it's feet long into the 2nd 😯 😀


 
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I was under the impression the self repeating rifle is the single most deadly invention known to mankind

That may be true (I don't know), but it's not a [i]cause.[/i] No-one's ever killed anyone in the name of rifles; well, outside of the NRA anyway.


 
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Like in Rochdale?

Not yet.

How long did it take for other immigrant groups to successfully integrate?
Many generations.
We're on the first rung of the ladder here.

Did you read the rest of the post, btw?

EDIT:
Oh, you were talking about child abuse.
We've done that in a different thread.
What I've said in this one still applies.


 
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BBH, it may be, however that is a tool of war, not the cause of it...


 
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Right, loads of wars started in the name of "science and technology " LMFAO
I was under the impression the self repeating rifle is the single most deadly invention known to mankind

POSTED 8 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST

Not without someone pulling the trigger.


 
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I completely agree, but only as long as the fundamental ideals of the religious are not in conflict with the beliefs, laws and ideals of the society in which they wish to settle.

Trouble is, some of those 'beliefs, laws and ideals' in the UK are founded in religious fundamentalism, such as the Sunday trading laws, which discriminate against those who aren't Christian. Then there's the issue of the Lords Spiritual; a group of mainly Protestant and Catholic unelected religious fundamentalists who have far too much influence and power in how this country is run. That's an affront to any notion of true democracy. We'll leave the 'Divine Right' of the monarchy to 'rule' over us out of this for the moment though.


 
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^ I know that guns are not the cause of war that would be retarded ^

I was referring to the fact argooses interpretation of the general sentiment in this post

[i]trailmonkey -
Ban all religion, biggest cause of war and death!
nope, i think you'll find that science and technology is the winner there[/i]

The biggest cause of death in war [i][b]is[/b][/i] weaponry is it not?


 
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There is a very important issue at stake here...

I'm not vegemitist but...

"Don't be ridiculous Vegemite is Marmites superior on all fronts. "

This is blasphemy and you will surely go to hell billyblackheart.

I feel the need to insert a 😉 here in order to make it obvious that I am joking... newbie and all that.


 
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I'm also going to object to the term vigilante, gang is quite sufficient. If they were dressing up in tights and a cape then maybe, but I don't think they are from the article...

This seems to have been over looked as well.

The behaviour was condemned by Muslim leaders.

In a statement, the East London Mosque said: "These actions are utterly unacceptable and clearly designed to stoke tensions and sow discord. We wholly condemn them.”

they're thugs, they intimidate women, they should be mocked and laughed at for what I'm going to assume are their tiny cocks and massive insecurities.

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The biggest cause of death in war is weaponry is it not?

Nope. It's stupidity.


 
Posted : 31/01/2013 8:02 pm
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The biggest cause of death in war is weaponry is it not?

No. The biggest cause of death in war is people trying to kill each other.


 
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Also,

Victorspeedboat (what a name!) +1. Vegemite is Marmite substitute for those who can't handle the real thing.


 
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This seems to have been over looked as well.

The behaviour was condemned by Muslim leaders.

In a statement, the East London Mosque said: "These actions are utterly unacceptable and clearly designed to stoke tensions and sow discord. We wholly condemn them.”

Do you want to inform, educate and enlighten, through the use of objective, balanced journalism?

Or do you want to sell newspapers/airtime/advertising space?


 
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Vegemite is Marmite substitute for those who can't handle the real thing.

Amen, brother!


 
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they're thugs, they intimidate women, they should be mocked and laughed at for what I'm going to assume are their tiny cocks and massive insecurities.

I'm assuming you're referring to the vigilante gang here, rather than Muslims in general?

Just checking, so I know whether to report your post or not.


 
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