[Closed] have we done this? Muslim vigilante gang!!!!

Ah yes, who can forget the atrocities and senseless loss of life in the bloody Videotape Format War of 1981.

It's still going on Sony will not let it die

What you need Junkyard is to enthusiastically embrace your native culture!!! You need a drunken fight outside a kebab house at 2 in the morning, followed by carnal naughtyness over a wheels bin (being careful not to drop your kebab).

Did you call my pint a puff? Are you looking at my birds Bacardi Breezer?!!! Eh?!!!

#knock knock knock

Can I come in? I brought a bottle!

As for the integration argument, it differs place to place. Leeds, really good integration and while there are communities and areas the lines are very blurred and never 100% either way.

Bradford the total opposite.

I have no insight into why.

Do we really think there aren't gang of white thugs too? They're not muslim gangs, they're not BNP gangs, or catholic, or protestant, or black or well dressed colour coordinated gay gangs (hey who knows?), they're just thugs and they come in all flavours.

nope, i think you'll find that science and technology is the winner there

Right, loads of wars started in the name of "science and technology " LMFAO

Surely Sectarianism being talked about here not racism?

Can I come in? I brought a bottle!

I don't know, is it a brown bottle?

'in before the lox'

Chapeau! (Or should that be "shtreimel"?)

Shoreditch you say?....not a million miles from me, i can feel some mischievous behaviour coming on, what could i do in the 'muslim' area to antagonise the vigilante group....i do like to wind up a foaming at the mouth idiot and these guys seem ripe for the mickey taking!

I don't know, is it a brown bottle?

green, containing red, El Bombero... that should get me in, and also really rare roast beef sandwiches... come on...

Muslim vigilante gangs
Surely the root cause is religion, again.

what could i do in the 'muslim' area to antagonise the vigilante group

Ignoring them completely would probably be the worst thing you could do to them, as they would then be denied the attention they so obviously crave.

I see where you're going with this, but compare and contrast with, say, London. They (ie, Londoners) genuinely seem to be integrating as a community in a way that the rest of the country doesn't seem to be.

Here it doesn't feel like an integrated society; it's siloing, and you're starting to get separate little enclaves of Asian and Caucasian. Perhaps it's just a perception thing, I dunno? I'd struggle to put my finger on exactly what the difference is.

Manchester still had it's 'Little Italy' (Ancoats) when I was growing up.
Still a massive predominantly Jewish area in North Manchester, and lots of areas were almost exclusively Irish Catholic - some still are.

We're a culture built on immigration and eventual integration -
integration/homogenisation happens when 'mixed' relationships become accepted, it's inevitable and a happy consequence of different cultures mixing and socialising.
This hasn't happened to a huge extent yet with the South Asian Muslim population in many Northern towns - not helped by the fact that fundamentalism in all religions has been exacerbated by global conflict over the last 30 or so years.

Give it time.

People fall in love, get married and cultures learn to live with each other. At least, I hope so.

Narrow minded ignorance on all sides doesn't help, but we need to realise that a peaceful multicultural AND integrated society requires compromise and a belief in shared ideals by all involved.

Right, loads of wars started in the name of "science and technology " LMFAO

I was under the impression the self repeating rifle is the single most deadly invention known to mankind

I've brought a brown bottle too. Is Efes Muslim lager? As its obviously made by Muslims. I've often wondered that? Though I've never received a definitive answer. Anyone?

Surly the root cause is religion, again.

No; the root cause is ignorance, fear and hatred. As it has always been, throughout human history.

thx1138 - Member
Ignoring them completely would probably be the worst thing you could do to them, as they would then be denied the attention they so obviously crave.

Thats what i was thinking....but while i enjoy a nice bottle of beer perhaps?

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I'm not sure as I'd describe what's happening here as "integration." It's more sort of co-existing.

Define the term 'muslim lands' and I fear there's a bigger issue looming than co-existing.

thx1138 - Member
No; the root cause is ignorance, fear and hatred. As it has always been, throughout human history.

I completely agree, but only as long as the fundamental ideals of the religious are not in conflict with the beliefs, laws and ideals of the society in which they wish to settle.

integration/homogenisation happens when 'mixed' relationships become accepted, it's inevitable and a happy consequence of different cultures mixing and socialising.
This hasn't happened to a huge extent yet with the South Asian Muslim population in many Northern towns

Starting early in Rochdale eh?

oh crikey this threads still going was sure when i spotted earlier it was going down in the 1st round but no still on it's feet long into the 2nd 😯 😀

I was under the impression the self repeating rifle is the single most deadly invention known to mankind

That may be true (I don't know), but it's not a [i]cause.[/i] No-one's ever killed anyone in the name of rifles; well, outside of the NRA anyway.

Zulu-Eleven - Member
Like in Rochdale?

Not yet.

How long did it take for other immigrant groups to successfully integrate?
Many generations.
We're on the first rung of the ladder here.

Did you read the rest of the post, btw?

EDIT:
Oh, you were talking about child abuse.
We've done that in a different thread.
What I've said in this one still applies.

BBH, it may be, however that is a tool of war, not the cause of it...

billyblackheart - Member
Right, loads of wars started in the name of "science and technology " LMFAO
I was under the impression the self repeating rifle is the single most deadly invention known to mankind

POSTED 8 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST

Not without someone pulling the trigger.

I completely agree, but only as long as the fundamental ideals of the religious are not in conflict with the beliefs, laws and ideals of the society in which they wish to settle.

Trouble is, some of those 'beliefs, laws and ideals' in the UK are founded in religious fundamentalism, such as the Sunday trading laws, which discriminate against those who aren't Christian. Then there's the issue of the Lords Spiritual; a group of mainly Protestant and Catholic unelected religious fundamentalists who have far too much influence and power in how this country is run. That's an affront to any notion of true democracy. We'll leave the 'Divine Right' of the monarchy to 'rule' over us out of this for the moment though.

^ I know that guns are not the cause of war that would be retarded ^

I was referring to the fact argooses interpretation of the general sentiment in this post

[i]trailmonkey -
Ban all religion, biggest cause of war and death!
nope, i think you'll find that science and technology is the winner there[/i]

The biggest cause of death in war [i][b]is[/b][/i] weaponry is it not?

There is a very important issue at stake here...

I'm not vegemitist but...

"Don't be ridiculous Vegemite is Marmites superior on all fronts. "

This is blasphemy and you will surely go to hell billyblackheart.

I feel the need to insert a 😉 here in order to make it obvious that I am joking... newbie and all that.

I'm also going to object to the term vigilante, gang is quite sufficient. If they were dressing up in tights and a cape then maybe, but I don't think they are from the article...

This seems to have been over looked as well.

The behaviour was condemned by Muslim leaders.

In a statement, the East London Mosque said: "These actions are utterly unacceptable and clearly designed to stoke tensions and sow discord. We wholly condemn them.”

they're thugs, they intimidate women, they should be mocked and laughed at for what I'm going to assume are their tiny cocks and massive insecurities.

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The biggest cause of death in war is weaponry is it not?

Nope. It's stupidity.

The biggest cause of death in war is weaponry is it not?

No. The biggest cause of death in war is people trying to kill each other.

Also,

Victorspeedboat (what a name!) +1. Vegemite is Marmite substitute for those who can't handle the real thing.

This seems to have been over looked as well.

The behaviour was condemned by Muslim leaders.

In a statement, the East London Mosque said: "These actions are utterly unacceptable and clearly designed to stoke tensions and sow discord. We wholly condemn them.”

Do you want to inform, educate and enlighten, through the use of objective, balanced journalism?

Or do you want to sell newspapers/airtime/advertising space?

Vegemite is Marmite substitute for those who can't handle the real thing.

Amen, brother!

they're thugs, they intimidate women, they should be mocked and laughed at for what I'm going to assume are their tiny cocks and massive insecurities.

I'm assuming you're referring to the vigilante gang here, rather than Muslims in general?

Just checking, so I know whether to report your post or not.

billyblackheart - Member

The biggest cause of death in war is weaponry is it not?

It's a method, not a cause.

Disease and starvation certainly get a look in too, though.

Put a rifle on the floor never harm anyone, pick it up it has the potential to kill.
The majority of genocide / war has been in the name of who's religion is right. But I will concede many have been under pinned with greed

lastly STW is going downhill clearly, no appreciation for my bottle of 2011 El Bombero... does no-one here have laithwaites account?

#wonders if waitrose do a mtb site... considers the reality of it if they did... decides to stick with what he has.

The biggest cause of death in war is weaponry is it not?

I get what your saying, but I'm thinking of the cause for the conflict rather than the means of nastiness.

Wonder where the Gladius ranks, done a lot of stabby stabby work those things.

I was under the impression the self repeating rifle is the single most deadly invention known to mankind

Guns don't kill people, rappers do 🙂

Oh and I have no useful contribution to make.

One hour and three pages in. Not bad. Not bad at all.

argoose - Member

Put a rifle on the floor it'll never harm anyone, pick it up it has the potential to kill.

I seen it in a documentary on BBC2.

<edit- GOD DAMN IT mrblobby!>

does no-one here have laithwaites account?

I have an account with BBR.com, any good to you?

Oh, and [b][u]LEAVE MC HAMMER ALONE![/u][/b]

we are Cpt everyone knows you cant touch him

IGMC

Put a rifle on the floor it'll never harm anyone, pick it up it has the potential to kill

same goes for Ann Widdecombe.

BBR.com

oh hello! - thanks there goes my February payslip...