[Closed] Have to agree

Nice piece of media work there

yet another alliance = dull

Pavement parking - pitchforks 🙂

Somebody on our street was having a new driveway and the builders put a mini-skip ON THE PAVEMENT along with all the slabs and couple of huge builders' bags. It was close to the end of the street too, so anybody walking into the road to get around the obstruction could have been hit by a car turning in.

I emailed the council and it was sorted within three days.

There really are some thick, inconsiderate arseholes out there.

I think if you don't have a drive to park your car in you should be charged to park on the street.

The roadside isn't there for public parking convenience outside "my Manor" I find it incredible that people who buy a house with no parking assume the road outside it is theirs. 

Depends on whether the road is adopted or not. There are several unadopted roads in the village near us, if you purchase a house then you do own the part in front of your house.

The unadopted roads are easy to spot - they are the ones that are yet to be tarmacced as the numerous owners can't agree on doing it 🙂

Hmm,

Here's the problem.

Speed
Lower default speed limits to 20mph for most roads in built-up areas, and 40mph for the most minor rural roads to make our roads and streets safer for everyone.

Space 
Adopt and ensure consistent application of existing ‘best-in-class’ infrastructure design standards to create safe, attractive and inviting places for people of all ages and abilities to walk and cycle.

Safety
Revise the Highway Code to improve safety for people walking and cycling, particularly at junctions.

Culture 
Provide cycle training for all children during their primary and secondary school years and embed a culture of walking and cycling throughout the school curriculum.

Is all good as far as I'm concerned, and it's only going to be the real nutters from the Church of his Holliness J. Clarkson who would oppose them.

But...

Priority
Prohibit pavement parking to create safer and more accessible streets.

Is NEVER going to be popular with the majority, at first, and the photo sort of gives the same impression, is what they mean is no parking with your wheels on the pavement, that's always been an odd one to me - in reality as long as they leave enough room for the 'double buggy' argument then it allows the most room for vehicles of all types to use the road as safely as possible, but no - it seems they're called for road side parking to be banned and that is madness and would be completely draconian to impose.

The worst thing about it is, that the first 4 good, workable policies will be completely ignored by the vast majority of the public because of the last one, moreover they will actively oppose the first 4 fearing policy creep towards the last.

Nah,you’ve got to think like French.

Park anywhere at any angle.

I think we'd be better off enforcing the parking restrictions we already have which are completely ignored by the relevant agencies anywhere other than town centres and round hospitals etc. rather than worrying about creating new ones.

This is a consequence of poor planning for new builds and the rise of the motor car. if you ban parking but do not provide an alternative you are not going to be popular.

if they really want to stop parking on the street the the council should do some compulsory purchase and build mini rise car parks.

if they really want to stop parking on the street the the council should do some compulsory purchase and build mini rise car parks.

I agree, although the cost would be massive, you'd be better off actually investing in public transport.

I'm thinking of my day today.

Start:

Parked on the street, we've got a drive but the wall was build about 1920 and my car (which is far from big doesn't fit through the entrance).

First stop - daughters school, it's only 6 miles, but she's only 4, and I've got a boot full of kit for work so cycling / walking is out, There's a bus that's remarkably practical, but I wouldn't be able to take all the stuff I need for work. There are 3 parking spaces outside school (with around 500 pupils) and about a dozen further down the road, but they're outside the local shops and are busy all day. The school itself has about 20 spaces for staff and visitors, but it's not open to parents. We tend to park about half a mile away to get a chance for a walk / ride (she rides, I run after her). The nearest public car park is about 3 miles away in the other direction, but it's for the local leisure centre, and it's usually busy as is.

Second stop - work, again, it's only about 5 miles, but there's no bus, there IS a train, but it means travelling into the centre of the city (train is crammed like the Tokyo underground) switching lines and coming back - it would take 45mins. I'm usually last to work because I do the school run in the morning. We have 6 spaces for 15 of us. Some of us walk / cycle in, but between those who have to drive and visitors we mostly have to park on the street.

Only 4 visits today in work - I do 95% of my work remotely these days (see my usual rants about home working for more detail) 2 were street parks, 2 in carparks.

Visited my FILs flat as he's been in hospital for a few weeks, got to park outside his flat, but had to go to the Post Office to pay in money etc for him, it's a typical High Street, so parking is on-street only.

Heading home in a few hours, will park on the street again. If we banned on-street parking 'overnight' I simply couldn't do my job.

My Wife is a District Nurse, she makes anything up to 20 home visits a day to see patients, 95% of them she has to park outside their homes, you can forgot any imagines of Nurse Gladys Emmanuel riding from home to home on a bike with a little wicker basket on the front, the amount of kit my wife needs completely fills her boot, and some of the back seats too.

Its a big issue for the visually impaired community too, imagine trying squeeze past parked cars with a white cane or a guide dog

https://www.guidedogs.org.uk/how-you-can-help/campaigning/pavement-parking/

P-jay I think you’ve misinterpreted something there?  I see nothing suggesting banning on street parking just on pavement parking.

your next post seems to me to be a justification to yourself why you need a car and need to park right outside.  In reality if someone went double yellow line crazy you would find a proper car park and walk from there.  whilst you explain the need to take your daughter to school - presumably you chose the school (rather than the closest which if 6 miles away the council would require to provide transport) - your wife may actually need to be able to get right to her patients door which actually a suitably constructed on street parking ban would help, if medical staff had an exemption.

Parking on the pavement is already illegal. Funnily enough the same law that stops you riding bikes on the pavement. Just that it’s not enforceable by traffic wardens. I’m sure if the police went around handing out 3 points + fines though people would stop doing it!

i think it's about time parking on the road where it causes an obstruction was banned. How much more town pollution is caused by people have to stop and give way and the accelerate away again? They banned speed bumps citing pollution so why not parking on roads that are too narrow to still allow traffic to flow freely? (says he with lots of off-road parking 😉 )

P-jay I think you’ve misinterpreted something there?  I see nothing suggesting banning on street parking just on pavement parking.

your next post seems to me to be a justification to yourself why you need a car and need to park right outside.  In reality if someone went double yellow line crazy you would find a proper car park and walk from there.  whilst you explain the need to take your daughter to school – presumably you chose the school (rather than the closest which if 6 miles away the council would require to provide transport) – your wife may actually need to be able to get right to her patients door which actually a suitably constructed on street parking ban would help, if medical staff had an exemption.

I thought so, but parking actually on the pavement is already prohibited, I suspect the vague wording is actually a call to ban all road side parking that’s not a designated parking bag. The Rambling Assoc are at least partly behind this after all.

Parked on the street, we’ve got a drive but the wall was build about 1920 and my car (which is far from big doesn’t fit through the entrance).

Crazy thought - make the entrance bigger?

All for banning pavement parking and fining those dicks that think any public grassed area is a car/motorhome car park/gumtree ad photo taking spot.

p-jay it’s only illegal to park on a pavement in London.  In the rest of the country it is illegal to cause an obstruction and illegal to drive on the pavement but not specifically illegal to park on it.  Obviously you have to drive on it to park there but those offences require identification of the driver (unlike say a double yellow which is going to the registerred keeper if left unpaid.  Of course there is an argument that sufficient diligence could see some prosecutions under existing laws to act as a deterrent but that would require to be lead by the police rather than a local authority like parking - and most people agree the police have better things to do (especially as early on there would be many court cases to attend whilst the disgruntled motorist tried to argue it must be ok as he did it every day for the last thirty years with no complaints).