[Closed] Happy St George's Day

And give us a bank holiday 😀

And why not?

mrmoofo - Member
And also sieze it back from the EDL!

This was sunday:

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*Doffs bowler hat and tips umbrella in your direction

Happy St. Georges Day indeed

Flags on car today..!!

Flags on car today..!!

Hi Lifer,

I live in Brighton - and had to put up with that stuff on Sunday. The EDL turnout was woeful.
However, ironically the far right behaved far better than the far left did, with the protesters starting the fights and throwing missiles.

Hardley the moral high ground - the protesters at Maggie's bash had decorum, on Sunday they were just a baying mob of yobs.

And to you sir; you are a scholar and a gentleman.

Greek wasn't he? 😆

the far right behaved far better than the far left did

Whilst the English Defence League might well be described as far right why do you assume that those opposed to the EDL are necessarily far left ? Did you discuss their politics with them ?

According to ITV News : [i]"Many local people turned out in force to express the disdain for the group's anti-Islamic views"[/i]

[url= http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2013-04-21/nationalist-action-few-arrests/ ]EDL marchers 'not welcome' in Brighton[/url]

And the English Disco Lovers in the video in that link don't appear to be "a baying mob of yobs" as you claim.

St Patrick's day was a very clever marketing campaign from Guinness, that's all, that has turned into a giant piss up. I'd rather have a nice quiet St Andrews day anytime!.

What if you don't like golf?

Whilst the English Defence League might well be described as far right why do you assume that those opposed to the EDL are necessarily far left ? Did you discuss their politics with them ?

According to ITV News : "Many local people turned out in force to express the disdain for the group's anti-Islamic views"

EDL marchers 'not welcome' in Brighton

And the English Disco Lovers in the video in that link don't appear to be "a baying mob of yobs" as you claim.

Didn't realise that you were there?

I'm sure some local people did turn out - I never said they didn't. TBH, most didn't give a stuff, were really pissed of the march happening, and didn't know why we had to suffer it.

Re the far left. I was just going from the flyers posted in the city centre before Sunday and the organisations who posted them.

And I don't understand your last point? I am a long way from supporting theb EDL or anything the stand for. So go a pick a fight with someone else

Re the far left. I was just going from the flyers posted in the city centre before Sunday and the organisations who posted them.

Surely with your 'left-of-centre' views you felt some solidarity with them anyway. 😆

Surely with your 'left-of-centre' views you felt some solidarity with them anyway.

No, beacuse they were way too many teachers in the crowd. And I have a one man vendetta against them 😆
I have a very strong sympathy with the anti- racism agenda. However, I'm not too sure stirring the pot with pond-life is very constructive TBH - the best thing to do with the EDL is not legitimise their self importance

I don't understand your last point?

Well its all fairly clear I would have thought. The people in the video don't match your description of events.

And personally I found the more measured report of the event by ITV News more believable than one by someone who uses Daily Mail headline language and talks of "a baying mob of yobs".

St Patrick's day was a very clever marketing campaign from Guinness, that's all, that has turned into a giant piss up. I'd rather have a nice quiet St Andrews day anytime!.

Just to put the perpetuation of this myth to rest, St. Patrick's Day has been celebrated the world over for years and years. Long before Guinness got involved. You have your quiet St. Andrea's day if you must. We'll be kicking back, having a day off and having a ball on ours. 😀

I raise my cup of tea to my fellow English Gentleman and give you all a small nod.

That is enough

the best thing to do with the EDL is not legitimise their self importance

Because of course the best way to deal with bigotry is to ignore it. That strategy works so well, doesn't it?

Indeed Ro5ey, indeed. I bid you good day.

I SAID GOOD DAY!

Good call: Happy Saint George's Day! 8)

Well its all fairly clear I would have thought. The people in the video don't match your description of events.

And personally I found the more measured report of the event by ITV News more believable than one by someone who uses Daily Mail headline language and talks of "a baying mob of yobs".

Ernie - were you there?
So your choice of media source is better than a) real life b) anyone elses. What did Sky, BBC, or Al Jazeera have to say about issue?
Was the video the whole day - or just a few selected bit? TBH can't be arsed to watch it. Unfortunately, the protesters started the missile throwing when everyone was corraled up at the sea life centre. Up until than point, it was just football ground stuff.

Daily Mail Titles - like what ?? Happy St George's Day. It was a genuine post - I would like England to celebrate it's Englishness - much as Ireland and Scotland do.

I'm not sure why you are beginning a personal vendetta with me - but that is your choice. Maybe you need to get out more

Before this thread is lost to the tedious and trolling I'd like to wish a tip top day to all chaps and chapesses from beautiful England.

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@mrmoofo. I choose not to believe someone who uses emotive language such as "a baying mob of yobs", and by their own admission "can't be arsed to watch" a video report by ITV News. Get over it 💡

the best thing to do with the EDL is not legitimise their self importance

I disagree with this. The best thing to do is confront them and their beliefs when and wherever you find them. When they are in ones and twos they aren't very vocal funnily enough. It's only when a bunch of them get together and drink fizzy beer that they need squashing. And a variety of different groups are very adept at it, good thing too. Unfortunately the only thing the EDL bow to is a bit of fear, so that's what the anti fascists give them.

Anyway St George's Day. It's not been taken from us by anyone. It's ours to celebrate and enjoy in whatever way we see fit. I shall be on the beach at midday raising a glass of honest English ale to the dragon slayer and to all the proud people of my country.

Because of course the best way to deal with bigotry is to ignore it.

Boy, am I trying

Last comment - can't be arsed because a) you are hi-jacking a thread to feed your ego b) I saw enough on BBC/ Sky/ BBC / local and ITV at the w/e. I'm sure it will not show me anything more ...

Feel free to start a "I hate MrMoofo" thread, and post all day long

Anyway St George's Day. It's not been taken from us by anyone. It's ours to celebrate and enjoy in whatever way we see fit. I shall be on the beach at midday raising a glass of honest English ale to the dragon slayer and to all the proud people of my country.

Great 8)

Why so serious? Epidemic of VERY SERIOUS POSTS over the last few days. Strange.

DD - maybe the case in Ireland. But in the uk the only reason more people can tell you when Paddys day is, than their own respective day of patronage, is purely down to the black stuff.

Lifer ... post Maggie ranting come down... they have to wean themselves off slowly. 🙄

Who?

Happy St Georges day folks. I'm going to go and make a cup of proper (builders) tea to celebrate, question is which biscuit should I go for?

Something understated, certainly.
Traditional, without a doubt.
Rich Tea? Custard Cream?
Decisions decisions, I might have to start another thread.....

What biscuit for St Georges Day?

Surely Turkish Delight would be more appropriate?

*Runs away giggling*

How many of you know without googling who St George actually was?

Yeahbut ....
The reason why England adopted the St George Cross etc has an interesting heritage - tied up in deal with Genovese pirates (Genoa as St George as it patron saint and the St Georges cross as it's flag) and ensuring safety at sea ...
Might be an urban myth, of course

Now, St George may well not be English but St Andrew was hardly Scotiish, was he!

happy ST Georges day to you. always a good day to be English .

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@ molgrips foudn myself talking back to the R2 breakfast show yesterday as the sports presenter, who is of Greek descent, was asked who the patron saint of Greece was...

Anyway - Happy St Georges day to my English cousins may we be united in our disagreements!

BTW St Andrew's day isn't really that big a gig up here don't know why people think it is? I don't get a day off or nowt and there are scarce few big events or dinners, so to speak. Burns' is more widely celebrated and quite rightly so!

From Wiki:

Many Patronages of Saint George exist around the world, including: Georgia, England, Egypt, Aragon, Catalonia, Romania, Ethiopia, Greece, India, Iraq, Israel, Lithuania, Portugal, Serbia, Ukraine and Russia, as well as the cities of Genoa, Amersfoort, Beirut, Boto?ani, Drobeta Turnu-Severin, Timi?oara, Fakiha, Cáceres, Ferrara, Freiburg im Breisgau, Kragujevac, Kumanovo, Lebanon, Ljubljana, Pérouges, Pomorie, Preston, Qormi, Rio de Janeiro, Lod, Lviv, Barcelona, Moscow and Victoria, as well as of the Scout Movement[3] and a wide range of professions, organizations and disease sufferers.

Some airmiles this George dude eh?

I wonder how many Aethists are posting up here today?

St David was Welsh though 🙂

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where we often stop for a breather after the slog onto the top of Clent...

England is beautiful

[i]Now, St George may well not be English but St Andrew was hardly Scotiish, was he![/i]

And St. Patrick wasn't Irish!

Now, of for a rousing chorus of "Jerusalem"

http://www.100greatblackbritons.com/bios/george_of_lydda.html

Something for the EDL and their ilk to ponder over.

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Something for the EDL and their ilk to ponder over.

Interesting site - I wonder how Phil Lynott and Paul McGrath would relish being called Britons
And Lord Taylor - is he out of nick yet?

I think there are many, many people who deserve to be there , who are not ...
However they did get it right and exclude Lenny Henry .

St George was a patron saint of the Angevins who ended up becoming kings of England in the C12th, later to be known as the Plantagenets after Geoffrey of Anjou's habit of wearing a sprig of broom in his hat (plants genesta).
The cross formed part of their personal arms and eventually the signal part of their battle banners.

Am I alone in really not giving a hoot about St George's day? don't have anything against it, just haven't ever been able to get myself particularly excited for it.

However they did get it right and exclude Lenny Henry

From Wiki:-

Genoese origin
Some historians[who?] believe that the St George's Cross was adopted from the flag of Genoa, which dates back to 1096.[citation needed] The Genoese flag was adopted from the personal flag of St. Ambrose, the 4th century Bishop of Milan who was a key figure in the development of Christianity in the West. St. Ambrose's cross had become a symbol of Milan, then the wider areas of Northern Italy.[citation needed] (Because it was a common symbol in the region, it was the flag of the Lombard League, a coalition of city states including both Milan and Genoa that opposed Frederick Barbarossa in the 12th and 13th Century.) Genoa's patron saint was St. George, and its vast trading fleet carried the association between the flag and the Saint across the ports of Europe and the Mediterranean Sea.

Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, supports this theory:

"The St. George's flag, a red cross on a white field, was adopted by England and the City of London in 1190 for their ships entering the Mediterranean to benefit from the protection of the Geonoese fleet. The English Monarch paid an annual tribute to the Doge of Genoa for this privilege."[3]

I wonder how Phil Lynott and Paul McGrath would relish being called Britons

Pigface
Greek wasn't he?

I wonder how many Aethists are posting up here today?

So happy Georges day I guess.

I wonder how many dragon believers are posting today

The idea for 100 Great Black Britons was based on the BBC TV series 100 Great Britons which included Bono and Bob Geldof.
Paul McGrath looked pretty chuffed actually when I saw him at an artexhibition opening event depicting black people in art throughout the ages sponsored by the PFA and the 100 Black Britons organisers.
I cannot comment on what Phil Lynott thought.

Ah, ok...
Bod Geldof!! He makes Lenny look talented ...
Bono is a personal thing - but preaching about solving world poverty, whilst creaming it in via tax havens does not make one "great"

St David was Welsh though

Indeed. Pity about that dragon of yours though 😆

Ah, ok...
Bod Geldof!! He makes Lenny look talented ...

Yeah, he's done nothing of note.

Pity about that dragon of yours though

Even in the story that was never actually real, so we're in the clear 🙂

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"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England."

- Winston Churchill

Happy Saint George's Day in England.

if you have a young's pub nearby get on their mailing list and score yourself a free pint of bombardier or bitter. if you really want. it is free i suppose.

I don't do flag-waving.

I'm an Englishman. 😉

deluded - Member
"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England."

- Winston Churchill

Happy Saint George's Day in England.

Here, here.

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A selection of England's 'finest' 😆
HAPPY St George's Day!

Our neighbour flies the flag from his house for the day every year. A true Patriot (NOT a football idiot).

Interesting site - I wonder how Phil Lynott and Paul McGrath would relish being called Britons

i doubt that paul mcgrath would mind at all.

he was born in london.

and he is god.

There was a lovely photo of the south-west of England posted up on Fb today by Col Chris Hadfield on the ISS, to wish us a happy St George's Day.
Which was nice, as he's Canadian.
Happy St George's Day, anyway, although I'd prefer it if St Aldhelm was chosen instead; he, at least, was a genuine Englishman, and was Abbot of Malmesbury Abbey for a time, and was quite the renaissance man.
Faint hope of that, though...