[Closed] Google Play Music to YT Music swap - what a pile of ordure!

Google are such toss bags now. What a piss boiler.

This is why I no longer buy anything from google or make myself reliant on any of their products. What's the betting they start a new streaming service in 9 months and make everyone move to that instead, having finally fixed all the bugs in this one.

I noticed even when the library has moved over none of the music will play offline, so it's sat in a Google file somewhere on my sd card completely useless and everything gets streamed

Google Play "downloads" are not agnostic and can only be played via Google Play so I thanked my lucky stars I only ever bought music from iTunes and always kept a backup in iTunes. Last month I ditched GP and replaced all downloads with mp4s on my phone's sd card. If you bought all the music from GP, I'd imagine you're screwed but if you bought it from elsewhere, go back to the source. What's Google's motto, "do no evil"? P#ss off you schesiters.

Trailrider Jim. That's just not true, I downloaded all my library (some uploaded some purchased) using the downloader desktop app and they are just MP3 files. I've put them on my Plex server without issue

Hadn’t realised that.

Generally a Google fan, but that stinks, it really does.

Jim even my albums I painfully uploaded to Google play show up in YouTube but won't play without streaming, i own and uploaded the bloody cds its a bloody joke

Anyway so what other streaming app is any good 🙁

gueben how did you do that as I can't play my music thanks

You need to use the Google Music Manager and sync your entire library. It takes forever but it works.

https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1229970

I'll take a look thanks
It took forever to upload my music to Google in the first place you would have presumed as they were instigated the change it would be a simple affair. I'm on the verge of trying another service tbh

My bad, I was sure it converted the files to its own type. Looks a bugger to download from if you have a decent sized collection.

It wasn't particularly hard but it did take a long time and if it stops part way though there is no way to resume so you have to start again and end up with dupes if you don't delete what's already been downloaded.

Google Play “downloads” are not agnostic and can only be played via Google Play so I thanked my lucky stars I only ever bought music from iTunes and always kept a backup in iTunes. Last month I ditched GP and replaced all downloads with mp4s on my phone’s sd card. If you bought all the music from GP, I’d imagine you’re screwed but if you bought it from elsewhere, go back to the source. What’s Google’s motto, “do no evil”? P#ss off you schesiters.

Hardly anything bought through Google Play, I was just availing myself of the storage and ability to cast and create playlists, etc.

Everything is backed up on my iMac (and on the original CDs), stuff that was downloaded is saved on the Mac too + all on an external hard drive.

It's now the ball-ache of finding a new online provider, that will play nicely with Android and cast properly, that has a decent amount of either free or cheap storage.
Oh, and I'll have to re-upload it all again.

Yeah what ever I decide to do has to play with android auto, I really don't like Spotify layout but it works with my car stereo

Sounds like exactly the reasons I've never used a streaming/cloud service to host my own music collection. Tied into paying them forever, whatever they choose to charge, plus whatever shitey interface they lumber you with. Not for me, no sir.

You're casting music held locally on your phone to a Chromecast Audio device? I'd have thought pretty much any media player worth its salt would do that. Poweramp definitely does it (and is ace which is why I bought the full version), I'd be astonished if VLC couldn't do it, and there's dozens if not hundreds of other media player apps to go at.

Oh, online. Can't you stick it in OneDrive / Google Drive and sync it back to your device?

I rarely agree with @dezb on these things but he's right on the money. I'd rather buy a CD and rip it than be reliant on any platform for my music. Save your money and set up a NAS to do your own streaming or keep a local copy on a drive of whatever flavour you choose. You can buy a 4Tb drive for about 80 quid last time I bought one which is frankly more than anyone needs for out and about in the car.

Oh, online. Can’t you stick it in OneDrive / Google Drive and sync it back to your device?

Yeah online. I have it all on a Mac at home, which I could cast to my Chromecasts from (I think), but I'd have to boot up the Mac to listen to music.

Not sure if I can sync to Google drive so I can just play it.
The advantage of Google Play was free unlimited (well very nearly unlimited - 50,000 songs) storage.
I could play the music from my phone wherever I have WiFi or 4g access, and it synced to my iTunes account and auto uploaded any new tunes I put on there.

Tbf I can still access all the music from my phone, but it's the inability to cast it to my stereo or speakers that pisses me off.

@cougar Poweramp has its own issues though like the failure to fix whatever Bluetooth bug they have had for over a year which stops it working with numerous cars (crashes the whole Bluetooth stack). Being forced to use a product other than the one you paid for is really annoying because the Dev chooses to bury their head in the sand.

Pre Google Music I had a Subsonic server setup.

http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp

Not used it since but I'd be surprised if it didn't support streaming to devices.

What’s Google’s motto, “do no evil”?

"Don't be evil" used to be in their corporate literature, but it was quietly expunged about 2 years ago. You could draw the conclusion that NOT being evil no longer fits Google's core values.

I rarely agree with @dezb on these things but he’s right on the money.

+1

Any updates on this? I've got all my music in iTunes and as I moved to Google Assistant about 5 months ago I uploaded all my music to Google Play Music so I could stream on my devices. Works great.

The move to YouTube Music seems to prevent that library of music from playing without a subscription.

I suspect I'll need to move to YouTube Music anyway but has it changed to allow a free account to play their own music library that they have uploaded?

I don't want to pay a subscription but I do want to keep using the Google home stuff...

Sounds like exactly the reasons I’ve never used a streaming/cloud service to host my own music collection. Tied into paying them forever, whatever they choose to charge, plus whatever shitey interface they lumber you with. Not for me, no sir.

I used to be like this but I started to total up how much I was spending on music and it was over £100 a month. I figured a monthly sub of a tenner was a decent trade off. Granted im not the average music listening I listen to music for about 5-6hours+ a day mon-fri plus what ever me and partner listen to when cooking dinner and all that.

The move to YouTube Music seems to prevent that library of music from playing without a subscription.

I don't think this is possible on a free account. I have YT Premium so was able to copy over all my GoogleMusic files and there is a little dropdown where my library is that I can swap between them. Personally the subs worth it its a little over a tenner and you get the whole of YT which makes up a huge majority of my internet usage.

I spend very little on music nowadays <£10 a year, so I'm really not interested in a subscription. I've got my music and want to be able to listen to it on my Google devices.

I can just now on Google Play Music and that is free, so I'm looking for an alternative. YouTube Music is being offered but I don't want to move if I can't play my own music library for free.

I've no interest in listening to new stuff as I don't listen long enough.

So if YouTube Music doesn't or can't do that, what can?

Look up Cloud player on Android market.

Nice little app that looks and feels a lot like Google music but streams from OneDrive / Google drive / Dropbox and more.

Thanks.

The move to YouTube Music seems to prevent that library of music from playing without a subscription.

I don’t think this is possible on a free account. I have YT Premium so was able to copy over all my GoogleMusic files and there is a little dropdown where my library is that I can swap between them.

It is now possible without paying for Premium

It is now possible without paying for Premium

You sure?
I just tried to cast from the YT music app, and it said I needed a subscription.

If I do the transfer and can't cast, I'm assuming I can remove anything that has been transferred, yeah?
I saw something about now being able to cast to devices but couldn't see if it needed a subscription or not.
I may just do the transfer and see how that goes...just not going to pay a subscription for something I really don't need.

I've just checked again and, yes, I can cast my own uploaded music.

I'm currently on Windows 10 PC,, using Chrome. When I have Youtube Music open I just pick the "3 dot " menu in the top bar and choose Cast. Finds my Google Speakers no problem.

My partner buys all her tracks via Google, she likes to "own" them target then subscribe. Recently she migrated to YT Music and although it look a long time she hasn't needed fyi subscribe that I know of?

She either listens via headphones on her android mobile or via her cars stereo.

Wasn’t this why their competitor launched Itunes...

So if YouTube Music doesn’t or can’t do that, what can?

I am trying out iBroadcast although it has the flaw they seem to be burning through venture capital to attract users and so havent come up with what its actually going to cost.
In theory its upload your own music and then be able to play via android/iphone app plus stream via sonos etc and currently seems nice enough but depends on what they come up with as the pricing model.
Google seem to be playing around with their rules though so will see what they come up with.
Looks like they might be allowing streaming of own on free but would still need unlocked phone for own music which would be a tad of a battery drain.
Not sure why they cant come up with a "play your own music" tier between free and the streaming/youtube video crap level.
The storage/bandwidth is going to cost and have been lucky google have only just got round to charging but the paying for something I dont want doesnt overly appeal.

Saints preserve us.....it seems that Google/YouTube have actually listened to people!

You can now cast music that you have uploaded (or transferred from Google Play) without having to pay the Premium Sub.

I had to delete the older version of the YT Music app and reinstall on my phone, but it now works.

Damn. And here was me thinking I was special.

I've found BubbleUPnP to play music from my media server on my phone, and send it to Chromecast and other network players. It can also access music from various "cloud" storage (e.g. Dropbox) if your music is stored there. I haven't tried playing music in this way, but may be worth a try.

Sounds like exactly the reasons I’ve never used a streaming/cloud service to host my own music collection. Tied into paying them forever, whatever they choose to charge, plus whatever shitey interface they lumber you with. Not for me, no sir.

Abso****inglutely! Plus, why should I need to worry about bandwidth, local availability of Wi-fi/network, when all my music is on the phone anyway?
I’m not beholden to anyone, especially not the scumbag shyster that is Spotify and it’s equally scumbag CEO.