[Closed] Go on, who else is a Failure

An ex of mine once told me a graduate should be looking at around £1k for every year old there are. I'm such a failure it's untrue.

An ex of mine once told me a graduate should be looking at around £1k for every year old there are.

Woohoo! I'm getting younger! 😕

as 1500 was perfectly ok for someone on 35k to spend on a frame maybe he can be embarassed by someone on a more pitiful wage who has spent more. play the %ages and feel good about it.

True, I'm a failure, but I have a nice bike.

me, 23k at a push and going down year by year......... 😥

EDIT: My basic is actually nearer 17k

Is he Stewert Baggs?

Fellow failure here. I do have an overpriced british frame to show for my pitiful earnings at least 🙂

Most definitely me according to my pitiful wage...

The fact that i own my own house & have three good quality bikes plus another runabout one is bye the bye apparently.

Who cares, i have my house, my bikes, my bills are paid, my fridge is full, there's 3 bottles of good whisky on the shelf, i don't owe anyone any money & my bank account is healthy enough to be considering a new kitchen & bathroom in the New Year.

Still, i'm off to wallow in despair at my life's failure....

failure is relative

I must admit I've set myself as a target but haven't really agressively pursued it.

I've been a failure my whole working life 🙁 oh what shall I do

My old man was always telling me it's not what you earn it's what you get to keep. As I get older it makes more sense to me. I'm £35k a year rich in the quality of my friends and family. Read his comments and feel sorry for him.

An ex of mine once told me a graduate should be looking at around £1k for every year old there are.

When I started work I wondered if and when I'd earn more than £1k for every year old I was.

Anyway, some might see those that see income as the most important measure of success as failures - I consider myself a failure as I can't manage to average 100 road miles/week in a year.

My old man was always telling me it's not what you earn it's what you get to keep.

Very true - though I say it's what you do with it that counts more than how much you earn. Some people own houses seemingly worth far more than they should be able to own based on their salary.

steve_b77 - Member

Looking at Special77's comments who else has a basic wage of less than £35k and is therefore a failure

BTW I earn quite a bit more than £35k but I'm still paid less than many in my profession, but I prefer the work/life balance I have.

I ride with some that earn way more than me & others that earn way less & I can't honestly say its made the slightest difference to how we get on?

I thought this was going to be something about how they couldn't do a 360 flip to flat like Danny Macaskill.

People who measure success by the amount they earn are sad sad people.

Clas-sick singletrack snobbery from the special one.

I'm 37 and don't earn a bean...

But I am gladly not one of those people to whom their self esteem is measured by their employment status or income.

I get paid peanuts and definitely no way near £35K p.a. I would be a very rich man if I get £30K p.a. 😕

By the standards of special77 I am indeed a failure. I have been a success in the past but at some point I failed. I have an interview tomorrow and if it goes well, I could be a success again instead of a failure. To think, I have been reflecting on so many variables as a judge of success when all this time it's been so simple. 🙄

I earn more than £60k a year after a drastic pay cut this year. I do a socially worthless job, am single, balding, running to flab, crap in bed, and can't ride a bike for shit. I demand to be counted as a failure despite my income. 🙂

Does failing to see how being self-employed with a good accountant makes me a 'failure' mean that I'm a failure

Umm wasn't the 35k comment made by davidtaylforth orginally? [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/thinking-about-buying-a-new-frame-is-actually-giving-me-nightmares ]here?[/url]

The context was entirely different. And he certainly didn't come across as arrogant, conceited and objectionable!

Classic, as has been said before anyone that measures their status based on how much they earn has a small weiner and no idea of humility. I always think that those that do the most fulfilling and hardest jobs earn, in my eyes, the least - nurses, docs, firepersons, ambos etc - every day I come to work i don;t have to deal with anything other than IT problems and nothing I do could kill someone. I deal with people on 100k+ every day and quite frankly the nice ones are an exception, the majority are egotistical eejits. I do find it entertaining as they big up themselves because they get paid 'a lot'. Define 'a lot' - there are many other nice, normal, down to earth people I know and deal with regularly who have wealth in the 10's if not 100's of M's of $. Guy I know through business quite well took me on his private jet 2 weeks ago - i had absolutely no idea whatsoever that he owned a jet FFS. Was quite nice really, 1hr to Wanaka, heli out for lunch, flight back. Hows that 35k looking now big guy ? I do alright and live a normal life *insert some glib remark about how I support a dozen starving children in Africa to salve my conscience*

A failure is when you think you are and act like you are.

toy19 - not according to usual ideas about the linear nature of time, no. 😉

I earn way less than 35k and some of my best friends are very rich people who don't give a s*it how much i earn because they are not that sad and shallow.

I don't mind earning far less but there are just so many ego maniacs out there that keep on trying to play "gods" on others including me which is a pain. Bloody maggots. 👿

It's ace trolling from him.
But back on topic I am a strong believer in massive amounts of cash do not make you happy.
My sis in law and her soon to be ex hubby. Him 90K a year her 30K+ a year. Too many hours in work, hardly any time for each other and he was tight as cramp!!
I always chuckled how folk (ie family) put him up high due to his mega wage packet (I personally found him v dull as work was obviously high on his agenda). Turns out my opinion of him was correct in the end, he was a grade one idiot (amongst other words that would get me a ban).
But in the eyes of the great one, I am 2K shy off being a non-failure. Tsk I suck. I will weep hard knowing I have a great wife, a beautiful son and another little bundle of joy arriving soon. Also living in my own house in a nice area is bad times too. Maybe I should torch both the cars we own and spank myself that I only owe the mortgage people money!! Some folk are divvies FACT!!
God damn I have risen to the troll!!!!!!!

toys19 - Member

Umm wasn't the 35k comment made by davidtaylforth orginally? here?

Original comment, [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/why-are-mountain-bikes-so-expensive/page/2#post-2074429 ]here[/url]. (check the times 😉 )

he doesn't write about struggling to get £500 a week, for the daily wail, does he?

Ahh I get it DT was making a joke methinks, I'm a bit slow on the uptake today.

im a failure, yet....... i'm still awesome 😀 my level of awesomeness exceeds my level of failure by a long long way so its all good 😉

I don't work for the money.
I work because I believe in what I am doing.
We live on a desperately low wage compared to most others on here.
Since we got married 15 years ago, both or one of us has worked for church or charitable trusts.
Happy? you betcha.

Well, if that wage rate is regarded as a failure then I and most of the people in my office must be failures. Luckily I certainly don't feel like one as I gave up chasing money for its own sake years ago. Not saying life is perfect (far from it) but I'm a lot happier than I was when I was encouraged by my, then, employer to think that money was supposed to be the be all and end all.

Now don't forget the important lesson we'be all learned here today.

Money can't buy you happiness; but it does allow you to be miserable in style.

Why are people so obsessed with each other's view on success and failure? I just don't get it...

I mean, I set myself pretty high standards, I certainly haven't achieved everything I want to achieve not by a long stretch. I have earnt more than £35k, I currently earn not much more than 1/3 of that figure, hopefully that'll change again soon, but money doesn't equal success.

Despite my high standards I set myself though (free of debt, decent salary, own home, good job), I would never ever begin to judge someone else by them. They are the standards I set myself, what other people do with their life is 100% their own choice... Unless it's purposefully avoiding work to sponge off the system, that's the one time I will get on my high horse!

^ hah yeah what Onzadog says.

And I'm now officially a failure, no job. On the upside that's because I have just sold my company ahahahahahaha excellent.

I'm a failure too 🙂 so are a lot of people i know so at least I don't stick out like a sore thumb 🙂

So I, along with 80+% of the UK working population (and slightly under 2% of STW posters) am a failure. W00t!

Wow my life so far must one huge dissappointment. I earn about £4000 for pt work. People don't really measure their worth through thier pay packet do they?

I've earned above 35k for about 8yrs now - considerably more in recent years, don't have a pot to piss in savings wise and have a whole load of debt. Personally, I'd rather I'd earned less, but managed it better.

Still, at least I didn't waste 4-5 years doing a degree to get to this stage.

[i]"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone"[/i] - Henry David Thoreau

Spent the last decade as a nursing grunt working for the NHS... so, [i]epic[/i] fail. Not that it bothers me.*

(*Provided I have access to a well-stocked library and decent trails, of course.)

Happiness isn't having what you want, It's wanting what you have and on the same note The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet.

Put that in your book for all you gloating rich unfulfilled bastards 🙂

LOL - you're all so poor.

No wonder folk on here are always whinging about the cost of XTR.

Graduated in July and currently on less than £12k 😆 ****ing awful really but it's sort of my fault for having no interest in a "normal" career.

Can I be a failure too?

i am a failure...............however me and mrs ton combined are affluantish. 8)

I earn more in a month than you lot do in a week

Epic fail here, never mind, I do spend too much on bikes though. Probably should try and manage my obsession/addiction a little better.

Yes, I'm a failure. I fail my [s]expensive[/s] bikes. They have a failed woman attempting to ride them.

Mind you, I try to live my life as a decent person with compassion for my fellow citizens. So does [b]THAT[/b] make me a failure too?

Luckily I'm totally awesome success, and as such can afford a car made out of real metal rather than an airfix model with some bits missing.

I don't tend to have too much concern for fellow citizens - they create their own problems.

Looking out for loved ones is pushing it at times......

BTW, I was joking - I held a door open for someone the other day.

Luckily for them they said thanks.

I hate the general public 😛

Measure yourself not by the money you earn but by the amount of time you get to spend on STW.

When you realise it's too much and you have to ban yourself. But still come on to post... you're a failure.

I wish surf mat wasn't banned right now!

Ooh, ooh, ooh, me, me... me, can I be his Awesomeness for the night?

20% of my time earned me 80% of my income so I settled for 80% more time and 20% less income - the big failure was in not doing it years ago

I am, by the £35k standards, living in abject poverty.

Actually - sometimes it feels as though I am! But... really... I don't think I am all that bothered. I get to live somewhere stunning, I work outdoors, and I get pretty good freedom to organise myself and do the things I want (like take detours whilst at work to get lost for an hour or so taking photographs!)

I was rich once mind, although I spent all I earned and more, so being poverty stricken and just doing without isn't really all that bad. Mostly out of debt at the moment... well... once I clear that pesky credit card again (I had a moment of weakness in a guitar shop!)

Ooh, ooh, ooh, me, me... me, can I be his Awesomeness for the night?

Fixed that for you TSY 😉

Awesome. 😀

Edit: I'll have to ask the Mods if they can remove the tag tomorrow! Any idea of when Surf-Mat returns? He may well be displeased.

Awsomeness approved. carry on.

I'm posting this whilst doing freestanding handstand press ups...
One hand is typing... the other is counting my cash, unless I'm 250, I'm quite a major success it would seem.

Oh dear, he's lost the plot. 🙄

I don't think I can handle the responsibility. 🙁

Are you sailing your yacht or driving your BMW? (of course I know that you're also having full consentual intercourse simultaneously).

With 3, yes, [b]3[/b] women! All of them are far more Awesome than any that you've ever laid your sad little eyes upon.

I earn a reasonable amount more than our failure/success threshold, but that is set not to last. Some days that eats me up ("how will I survive on a £40k paycut?") and others I shrug my shoulders and concentrate on things I consider more important.

I read something simple, but wise, once: the people who determine what we mean by success are workaholics.

I must be regressing.

I was earning the exact requisite amount that appears to denote success when I was 29. Now I'm 31 and am some £5K off target again.

My own personal core failure is an inability to resist women of a mentally unstable nature...3 in a row now!

£35k a year actually isn't that much, I would set the bar higher. I reckon if you earn less than £75k you are a loser. Worse than a loser in fact, you are a bummer.

Modern life is now measured by inome rather than how fit your bird is"........

Wonder if my bird is better than yours will get mentioned soon

Earning lots of money is easy, it all depends how much of a nasty ****er you want to be.
I actually regret not taking the dark path myself. I wish I could be ruthless enough to just charge through the sensibilities and rake it in. Be it strimming people's pension funds or giving it to them up the ass in bankers bonuses, I just couldn't do it. I'm weak, that's my problem.

I'd be retired now. Great big house, no debts, plenty of money stashed away. All I would have had to do was be a ruthless tosser in the city for ten years. I've met these people, lots of them, they're generally thick as ****. Possibly a bit too thick to understand how marching over everyone is nasty. Which is nice for them. Like that Stuart bloke, he's got an M3 you know, I couldn't afford one of them.

If you asked Stuart he'd say that's because he's smarter than me.

What a funny place the world is.

Apparently Im a failure according to that theory, but I thought I was doing alright! I certainly aint starvin! But I suffer for it by living in the hole that is London!

However I dont care as im pretty hot at riding a bike! Sure its not a ferrari and 250k a year but I can pull whips and skid like a mofo!!!! hahahahaha

i would probably be classed as a failure too.
but i dont care cuz i'm happy

20% of my time earned me 80% of my income so I settled for 80% more time and 20% less income - the big failure was in not doing it years ago

Exactamundo.....I think, self employed and now making more out of less. Had my hand forced by some of the less savory characters you encounter in business, in fact they had me filing for bankruptcy, though I never went through with it.
The changes it forced were in the end changes for the best.
I have an accountant to, she turns me into a failure each year 🙂 bless her.

Or as my mum says 'at least you've got your health'.
A saying that just used to go over my head, but as Ive grown older it carries more weight. When I hear people talking about investments, pensions etc and see them struggling to get in and out of the car they have on finance. I can't help but wonder if their priorities are in the right place?
And to those who reply with 'you only live once' well if that means being dead at fifty then I want to live twice.

From what I can gather from the Motherland, it's the people who aren't technically failures who have made the UK the failure that it is today?

Me I am. 21 years of working for the NHS gaining a BHSc whilst working full time I'm a failure. At the weekend we dug people's paths clear of 2-3 feet of snow to get them out the house or risked injury carrying them over snow and sheet ice as time was critical. We drove at high speeds at times in frankly dangerous conditions to make sure we got them to hospital within the 'golden hour'. I delivered a baby and got it breathing as being born in a vehicle when it's -14c outside is a little traumatic for new borns.

But I can now safely say I'm a failure.