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But it still doesn't alter the fact she has the right to.

Surely having a 'right' must in some way infer the ability to exercise it?

You're that dense, I really don't think I'll bother responding any more to you - bye

Well done for the fostering - amazing but as for not responding any more - who are you exactly? I cannot recall your username?

Please explain to me how a single mum in a council house is going to be able to get her kid into the good school from another area. She cannot move house to do so. You can. So your kids get opportunities that hers do not

Thats true but they did their degrees between 86-2002. The point still stands, a strong family behind you makes a hell of a difference.

So now most people here hate those with a bit of money AND a supportive family?

Dammit, beginning to wish I'd started out as a penniless orphan just so I can fit in.

But it still doesn't alter the fact she has the right to.

Surely having a 'right' must in some way infer the ability to exercise it?

An example, to point out the absurdity - and [b][i]distaste[/i][/b] of this argument...

Would it be appropriate for someone from a black, asian, or any other ethnic background, to be called a f*king *@37#[insert whatever demeaning racial slur] in their workplace?

After all, they have the right not to be subjected to racial discrimination in the workplace - but perhaps they work for one of the public bodies previouslly assessedas being institutionally racist.

But they've got the [i]right[/i], so its ok, yes?

... or is it the reality that important?

joolsburger - Member

Thats true but they did their degrees between 86-2002. The point still stands, a strong family behind you makes a hell of a difference.

You did say 70s in your original post

I do suspect tho that those who had little money but who did degrees when there was more support for people with no money would be less likely to go to university now

mastiles_fanylion - Member

But it still doesn't alter the fact she has the right to.

As a man of Harrogate, I'm sure you'll be able to confirm that my son has a right to go to Harrogate Ladies College then?
They seem to do well in OFSTED stuff etc & it seems well regarded, & I'm betting that the perks aren't too bad for a young man

Surf-Mat - Member

So now most people here hate those with a bit of money AND a supportive family?

Like who
What many of us dislike is that being from a family that is both supportive and had a bit of money gives you an unfair advantage in life.

I am from exactly the sort of background you are. Nice and cosy middle class. I am certain that gave me an advantage in life but I don't call those less advantaged than me lazy and useless

"Dammit, beginning to wish I'd started out as a penniless orphan just so I can fit in."

So do I; so you can learn something about empathy and humility two qualities you clearly lack.

Please point out where I have called anyone lazy and useless...

I'm waiting...

I'm still waiting...

So now most people here hate those with a bit of money AND a supportive family?
Dammit, beginning to wish I'd started out as a penniless orphan just so I can fit in.

I don't think people in general have a problem with either thing. It's more how you justify your views I suspect.

So now most people here hate those with a bit of money AND a supportive family?

Mat, please tell me you're trolling? [i]Please?[/i]

So now [b]most people here[/b] hate those with a bit of money AND a supportive family?

Where in the name of the Sweet Little Baby Jesus of Nazareth did you get [i]that[/i] idea from?? 😯

You're wibbling nonsense now. Time for an afternoon nap, I'd say. It'll do you good. You'll wake up feeling refreshed and invigorated.

Oops.

So now most people here hate those with a bit of money AND a supportive family?

Are you really this much of a nob or are you just trolling?

Those with money have an "unfair" advantage.
Those with supportive families have an "unfair advantage"

Which is deemed unfair and so at the mercy of self righteous STWers who all grew up down a coal mine, working 150 hours a week for 1p a month and are therefore far far better qualified to make social observations that anyone else...

Is she not dead yet? I've polished my spats rather nicely.

So when we look back in 5 yrs time who will we hate most?

The idiots that created the mess this time round
Or those who were left to clear it up?

Surf-Mat you're taking this one too far now. You're starting to sound an utter prick. No one can interpret what others are saying so poorly, make such inflamatory and ignorant comments, display such a lack of conversational skills, yet get on with people from a variety of backgrounds in the real world.

Chapeau, it's been a good troll, but drop it now.

On a different note, I found my old 1991 Tag F1 watch last night. ****, its face is as small as a ladies watch compared to my latest watch 🙁

Surf-Mat - Member

Please point out where I have called anyone lazy and useless...

I'm waiting...

I'm still waiting...

Surf-Mat - Member

Now do the a similar group of people who are deeply unhappy - in some cases the reason for their discontent will be some horrible disaster. [b]For the rest they will simply blame everyone else for their state of mind - the government, their boss, anyone. [/b]

Surf-Mat - Member

Again, blame others if you can but I still back it up - you make your own luck in life. [b]Or you moan at others that do.[/b]

Surf-Mat - Member

BTW, my dad left school aged 16 and never received a penny of support from his parents. He's had ups from hard graft and major downs that to many "weren't his fault" (e.g late 80s recession) [b]- does he bleat and moan about how unfair things are?[/b] No he finds work and he gets paid for it. And always has done.

Surf-Mat - Member

matt..........how do you think you would cope in a nice terrace house in a nice pit village.
with you views on thatcher???

Why would I move to such a place?

You make your own luck in life -[b] moaning at others and venting rage because it's "someone else's fault" [/b]gets you nowhere.

........... what have I learnt? You make your own luck and you don't blame anyone else when/if it all goes to sh1t - which it has done plenty of times for me and my family.

I think the inference is fairly clear is it not?

Won't she just die?

As a man of Harrogate, I'm sure you'll be able to confirm that my son has a right to go to Harrogate Ladies College then?

I think the inference is fairly clear is it not?

Not it's not. I have no doubt many of these moaners work hard. That doesn't stop them moaning.
I have no doubt many of these moaners do useful things. That doesn't stop them moaning.

TSY - you are cross. That's what forums are for - debating things in which some get cross. You disagree, no need to have a heart seizure about it.

Same for ton too - he disagrees and now goes into full rage mode.

Life's too short ladies and gents. Stop moaning and get on with it. If all you can do it get angry, do something else.

If you can't provide a stable, supportive home and afford to raise a family in the way you'd like them raised don't have kids.

Life is both hard and cruel -- why does that surprise people??

Surf-Mat, I'm not cross. I'm despairing. I honestly thought you were trolling. 😆

If you can't provide a stable, supportive home and afford to raise a family in the way you'd like them raised don't have kids.

Even though more kids means linked-more benefits and possibly a bigger house?

The ****less aren't stupid. They know you'd dont get many 4bedroom houses on council estates so an easy way up the property ladder is to bang more money earners out..

Problem is alot of councils are keeping them squeezed in.

Funny how only the racist Mail has the balls to raise this topic.

surf Matt - its pretty clear to must of us. If people don't succeed than they are lazy moaners and its their own fault. That what you repeatedly say.

joolsburger - Member

...............
Life is both hard and cruel -- why does that surprise people??

Don't surprise me at all. I would like to see everyone get an equal opportunity regardless of their background tho.

Hora- shut up now you're just being silly. Either discuss the issues sensibly, or say nowt. Don't start ranting on about your own blinkered ignorant ill-informed prejudices.

And give me that watch. You owe me £60 anyway.

matt, never been in a full rage in my life.
people like you do get me close.
overprivalidged, cosseted, mollycoddled titty fed ****s with no idea about real life.

Ahh yes of course ton, you've had it SO tough that your opinions are ten times more valid?

Don't forget to vent your rage at those you consider to have had an unfair start in life. Or maybe you could do something about it? Or just be contented with your lot in life?

I can imagine you won't even talk to anyone you consider "privileged?" You pour scorn on them for being "****s." Far less waste of energy to get on with anyone IMO. No idea about life? Can you please justify that rather scathing and pathetic remark? No you can't can you? Because you feel hard done by. You've conveniently missed the bits about not having had a penny of support since I was 14. The numerous labouring jobs. The very long period of being utterly skint. No no no you are so blinded by your self pity and sense of unfairness aren't you? I'll give you unfair - you try losing a pefectly healthy baby 2 week before it's due because it's cord got knotted around it's neck. You try comforting your wife who has to carry a dead baby for two days before it's induced.

Now THAT IS UNFAIR. Not some bleating miserable sod who hates everything and everyone because he thinks he's had it tougher than them.

Well get off your fat arse and DO SOMETHING about it. Lose some weight, look for a better job, just DO SOMETHING rather than ranting at others.

Moan moan moan, unfair, bleat, moan.

Beer anyone?

I don't think beer would be a good idea in this here at the moment 😀

mollycoddled titty fed ****s

Ha ha! Quote of the month, surely??!?!

😆

Brilliant...

matt, i talk to all and sundry, but once in a while you come up against a **** who thinks himself better and above everyone, and you with your replies on the post have proven this.....
you are a ****. who thinks himself better than the rest. the worst kind of **** in my eyes.

Beer anyone?

I have a feeling you'd get glassed. 😆

In a rare moment I completely agee with ton, this forum harbours quite a few people like this, Ton at least you can be thankful they are not part of your circle of real life friends.. 🙄

I thought this was about stamping on a dead Baroness?

Thatchers fault, all this bad feeling and grumpiness....

Thatchers fault, all this bad feeling and grumpiness....

It is. It actually is.

I thought this was about stamping on a dead Baroness?

Everyone's getting impatient waiting for the match to start 😈

It is. It actually is.

It's the right time of year for effigies on bonfires, too 😆

nickf - Member

As for Thatcher, she may well be an irrelevance now, but the damage she did to the North-East is something I lived through and can never forgive.

You mean the death of unsustainable loss-making industries? The North East is a better place now than it ever was. I grew up there and lived through it - coal was a corpse that was being propped up by subsidies that would have never survived.

You're wibbling nonsense[b] now[/b].

at the mercy of self righteous STWers