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German & Austrian Alps holiday advice please

 colp
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Looks like it’s mostly been said but I’d repeat, just get the Hull ferry, it’s so much nicer than going to Calais if you’re from the North.

Rotterdam to Salzburg taking it easy is 11.5 hours every time.

Zell, Leogang etc is 1hr drive from Salzburg (always go via Lofer avoiding the autobahn)

Check out our little town (Maria Alm), pretty, nice walks, restaurants etc, 15 minutes from Leogang.

I’ll be there on and off from late August to October if you want to hook up for a ride.


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 12:52 am
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Austria was the only place we cut short. Notably more expensive, and found many of the people extremely abrupt / unwelcoming

Agreed.

Years spent living on/near the Austrian border has confirmed this.

Just go to South Tyrol. Better coffee. Better food. Better prices. Nicer people.


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 8:58 am
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Re: prices

I find Germany slightly cheaper than Austria. On average it's still cheaper than here. Large beer €5, a pint in London is at least £7

You're on holiday so don't worry about it. Nobody goes on holiday to save money!!!!!!


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 9:32 am
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if you can be arsed to learn a few words of German in advance. (Language Transfer is great for this). They know you’re a tourist

Thanks, I'll let my pretty much trilingual kids know that, and my German wife of course 😉

Fair enough my German isn't perfekt by any means, but I do generally win the YouTalkEnhlishAndIllSpeakGermanUntilOneOfUsConcedesAndSwitchesBackToOurMotherTongue encounters in Teuto countries if not in Franco ones. So I don't think the issue is language


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 9:45 am
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a couple of mates and myself drove to Austria several years ago for a hiking holiday, well quite a while now tbh in 2015. We stayed in St. Johan in Tirol, here...

https://www.kitzbueheler-alpen.com/en/stjo/st-johann-in-tirol.html

We took the Dover/Calais ferry and drove down through Germany via Holland. We had a night out in Cologne and a night out in Rosenheim on the way, great fun. The Autobahns Germany were very busy though, we got stuck in heavy traffic quite a lot if I recall, it was October.

The hiking where we were was great, supberb, and the beer, and the people were very friendly as well.


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 10:32 am
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All depends if you count "Austrian" as German.... We had a few guided days MTB around Au in Bregenzerwald. There were some German couples in the group who turned to us at one point and asked if we could understand what the Austrian guide was saying as they were struggling and couldn't imagine how we had a clue 🙂

In general the only slightly unfriendly people have been where I was naughtily riding a bit of singletrack in the back of beyond on a deserted Monday morning.


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 11:27 am
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Despite being stopped by the German police on the autobahn, we weren't pulled up on the emission sticker. It was the lack of driving licence that they didn't like.

Belgium i.e. Ghent ones you can do online, at the time, but do need a copy of you v5. I sent them a picture of Mathieu van poel cos I didn't have my v5 (can you see a theme here?) seemed to work.


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 11:41 am
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... So take yer v5 , take yer licence and don't listen to my advice.


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 11:42 am
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Noted 😉


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 12:04 pm
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https://www.theaa.com/european-breakdown-cover/driving-in-europe/country-by-country

The language issues above are not that different to here. I'd imagine someone from deepest rural Devon would struggle to cope with a broad Geordie or Glaswegian accent ... Belfast or Derry would be impenetrable for many.


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 12:34 pm
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