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Posted by: kelvin

It can always get worse. History has taught us that.

History has also taught us that when people have a shitty deal they are often willing to gamble even if they think the odds of success are low. 


 
Posted : 07/02/2025 10:01 pm
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It is been claimed that Donald Trump has no sense of humour but it would appear that Benjamin Netanyahu thinks otherwise and has clearly decided to appeal to it 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/netanyahu-trump-golden-pager-lebanon-hezbollah-attack

Israeli media reported that the Israeli prime minister, who is wanted by the international criminal court for war crimes, also gave the US president a regular pager.

The explosions killed at least 37 people, including children as young as nine years old, and left thousands wounded.

And in an example of the crass gloating that the racist apartheid regime in Tel Aviv is capable of it is claimed that the wood the golden pager is mounted on is a piece of olive tree from Lebanon.

Not only is the olive tree a symbol of peace but the Israeli authorities and colonial settlers have uprooted, burnt, and destroyed, at least 800,000 olive trees in the illegally occupied Palestinian lands.

Olive trees in Palestine are generally at least 1,000 old and in some cases 5,000 years old. It takes minutes for an IDF military bulldozer to uproot one and thereby destroying the livelihood of a Palestine farmer, an important tactic when driving Palestinians off their lands so that they can be replaced by Western colonial settlers.T

here is something quite sinister about a grinning Netanyahu celebrating the pager attack when Israel actually refuses to admit responsibility for it. It has a touch of the gangster boss or smirking nazi officer about it.


 
Posted : 07/02/2025 10:49 pm
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Donald Trump: An unlikely harbinger of peace in West Asia?

https://frontline.thehindu.com/world-affairs/gaza-war-truce-israel-hamas-ceasefire-donald-trump-netanyahu-palestine-reconstruction-west-asia-us-allies/article69187096.ece

A fairly long but interesting article written by a Indian diplomat, the first part detailing the historical background is particularly interesting imo. But he conclusion is probably the most important bit:

 

As of now, Trump—impulsive, inconsistent, egoistical that he is—seems to be the only one with the credentials and the capacity to deliver a lasting peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. Although firmly placed on the populist right, with a long and credible record of backing Israel’s interests, he is not committed to any ideology, and given Israel’s total dependence on US political and military support, he can exercise an influence on Netanyahu that is unmatched. He is also said to be seeking a Nobel Peace Prize as the crowning glory of his presidency, which peace in West Asia will guarantee him.

 

The problem is that Trump has no moral core or intellectual ballast and is prone to impulsive actions largely to get attention, usually in response to wily and persuasive influencers like Netanyahu.


 
Posted : 08/02/2025 6:50 pm
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At the moment Trump appears to be trying to out Netanyahu Netanyahu, doubling down and saying that unless all the hostages are released at the weekend the ceasefire is over, not even Netanyahu is explicitly saying that all the hostages must be released. But hey Biden was way worse for the Palestinians wasn't he...................


 
Posted : 12/02/2025 8:45 pm
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But hey Biden was way worse for the Palestinians wasn't he...................

Way worse ? There is fundamentally no policy difference between Biden and Trump with regards to Palestine-Israel. Biden simply continued with Trump 1.0 Middle East policies, in fact he actually built on them and tried to extend the Abraham Accords to include Saudi Arabia.

The only difference is firstly in style and secondly in genuine commitment to zionism. And it is the latter which presents a fairly serious challenge for Netanyahu. At the moment Netanyahu appears to enjoy Donald Trump's full support but that is certainly not an "ironclad" guarantee, to paraphrase Joe Biden.

explicitly saying

Other than because it suits their agenda why would anyone attach any sort of genuine value to the words that come out Trump's mouth?

Here's a question......did Mexico ever pay for that wall that Trump built and he explicitly said they would be paying for?

What wall? You may well ask.

In Trump's world this is called "The Art of the Deal". And what's more it can be very effective, as the usual reaction to what he says proves.


 
Posted : 12/02/2025 11:17 pm
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The author of this article is obviously an Israeli and a zionist but it is easily the best article that I have read with regards to the motives behind what Trump is saying concerning Gaza.

If you read one article on Trump's attitude to Gaza make it this one, it's well worth reading imo.

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-840776

The article is a week old but already some of the expected reactions from the Arab states are starting to become apparent. Trump has put a rocket up their arses and it is feasible that he might achieve more than Biden, although to be fair Biden achieved absolutely bugger all, so that shouldn't be very difficult.

And by "achievement" I mean leave the region more stable to serve United States interests and with less need for direct US involvement, which is all that Biden would have wanted anyway...... Biden clearly didn't give a monkeys about the Palestinians.


 
Posted : 12/02/2025 11:39 pm
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May already have been posted, but ICC prosecutor Karim Khan has been sanctioned by the US


 
Posted : 13/02/2025 4:43 pm
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Trump did this last time he was in office as well…

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/908896108/trump-administration-sanctions-icc-prosecutor-investigating-alleged-u-s-war-crim


 
Posted : 13/02/2025 5:41 pm
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From my earlier Jerusalem Post link :

 

TRUMP’S TRACK record in real estate and politics could suggest that his goal isn’t to occupy Gaza – it’s to force neighboring Arab nations, who have up until now dragged their feet, to take a more active role in solving the crisis. His assumption? That the shock of such a radical proposal will jolt Egypt, Jordan, and the Gulf states into stepping up in ways they have so far refused to.

For decades, Arab nations have loudly supported the Palestinian cause, but they have done little to materially improve the situation in Gaza beyond funneling money to Hamas.

That was 10 days ago. Today, according to The Times of Israel :

 

Arab countries scramble to offer Trump an alternate proposal for post-war Gaza

https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-countries-scramble-to-offer-trump-an-alternate-proposal-for-post-war-gaza/

Reuters spoke to 15 sources in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and elsewhere to build a picture of the hurried efforts by Arab states to pull together existing proposals into a new plan they can sell to the US president — even potentially calling it a “Trump plan” to win his approval.

It looks as if Trump's little tactic might be working precisely as it was intended to work. He's a bit of a wily ****er, and people are so dismissive.

Could Joe Biden have achieved something similar? Not a chance imo, everyone, including Israel and all the Arab states, simply ignored him.

Obviously it's early days and it's not a done deal until it's a done deal, but people are very quick to jump to conclusions and condemn Trump's tactics. This might prove to be a lesson in not being so quick to condemn and perhaps waiting to see how things pan out.

I am not celebrating btw, any plan hatched by the likes of Saudi Arabia and Egypt and backed by the United States will undoubtedly represent a stitch up for the Palestinians. But it will possibly represent a big win for the United States, Israel, and its other client states. So Trump will have achieved what you would expect a US president to achieve, whilst denying justice for Palestine.

 


 
Posted : 14/02/2025 9:28 pm
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At the moment Trump appears to be trying to out Netanyahu Netanyahu, doubling down and saying that unless all the hostages are released at the weekend the ceasefire is over, not even Netanyahu is explicitly saying that all the hostages must be released. But hey Biden was way worse for the Palestinians wasn't he...................

So Hamas released just three prisoners today and the ceasefire is still in place. 

I have seen TV footage of a great deal of extremely happy Palestinians today, is the situation currently much worse than it was when Joe Biden was US president? Well right now it doesn't appear to be. 

To be honest so much destruction was caused to Gaza whilst Joe Biden was US president that there isn't much left to destroy......homes, schools, universities, hospitals, are all gone, so I am not sure how that could be much worse.

And we will have to wait and see whether Donald Trump helps Netanyahu to kill even more Palestinians than Joe Biden managed to help him kill.


 
Posted : 15/02/2025 6:15 pm
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And we will have to wait and see whether Donald Trump helps Netanyahu to kill even more Palestinians than Joe Biden managed to help him kill.

He will, because he (US and the entire West) has become the tool for the puppet master.  They have no more credible opposition in the Middle East soon apart from Iran.  Hence the expansion plan of turning the place into zionist real estate. 

The way the US President Trump spoke to the Jordanian King and the Egyptian govt, can only show how weak those political elites are in the Middle East.  


 
Posted : 16/02/2025 11:57 pm
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Who do you believe to be the "puppet masters"?


 
Posted : 17/02/2025 12:42 pm
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https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-01/pope-francis-video-call-gaza-parish-holy-family-prayers.html

 

Blimey, I had no idea that Pope Francis has been phoning the Holy Family church in Gaza every evening since October 9 2023.

 

 According to The Guardian he has been doing so even whilst quite seriously ill in hospital.

 

The Holy Family church in Gaza has been a target for Israeli forces (because of course Hamas uses Catholic churches!) In December 2023 IDF snipers shot and killed a mother and daughter in the grounds of the church and last July the Israeli air force bombed the church.


 
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Who do you believe to be the "puppet masters"?

The "puppet masters" are hidden in the Balfour Declaration


 
Posted : 21/02/2025 6:52 pm
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This puppet master, wouldn't be Harry Corbett by any chance?


 
Posted : 21/02/2025 8:01 pm
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Posted by: piemonster

Who do you believe to be the "puppet masters"?

The "puppet masters" are hidden in the Balfour Declaration

 

Do you have enough conviction in your beliefs to state who those puppet masters are, that you believe are hidden in the Balfour Declaration?

 


 
Posted : 22/02/2025 11:24 am
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https://resources.news.sky.com/iframe/amp/video/6839944#amp=

Posted on Truth Social apparently


 
Posted : 26/02/2025 10:02 am
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Instagram.

It's quite something, isn't it? I like the hula dancers.

 


 
Posted : 26/02/2025 10:09 am
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I like the hula dancers.

I wonder what the real Elon Musk will think of the AI version of him sharing space with them?

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Posted : 27/02/2025 12:14 am
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Do you have enough conviction in your beliefs to state who those puppet masters are, that you believe are hidden in the Balfour Declaration?

I believe that's the starting point (action, evidence of commitment etc) of the momentum (movement) solidifying. 

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It's quite something, isn't it? I like the hula dancers.

The real estate development and "protecting interest" come to mind.  


 
Posted : 27/02/2025 5:35 pm
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Posted by: piemonster

Who do you believe to be the "puppet masters"?

The "puppet masters" are hidden in the Balfour Declaration

That's actually the first time that I have read the original letter from Balfour to Rothschild. I found this bit particularly interesting. :

 "it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"

 That really couldn't be any clearer. Although what isn't clear is what Balfour thought should be done with the existing non-Jewish communities whose civil and religious rights were to be protected.

Btw chewky I fail to see any "puppet masters" in the Balfour declaration. It all just sounds like typically fudged and contradictory colonial policy.

If there are any puppet masters at all  as far as I am concerned they are in the Whitehouse, not in Israel. They are the ones pulling the strings, calling the shots, whatever you want to call it. And they are mostly neither Jewish nor Israelis.

 


 
Posted : 27/02/2025 6:09 pm
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Interested in people's thoughts on this BBC documentary that was recently pulled, due to it turning out that one of kids featured in it is the son of a Hamas official (minister of agriculture).

My first thought was that that's clearly no good but also that it doesn't necessarily mean it's biased or that the main facts of the documentary are incorrect. Perhaps they can re-edit without him.

But then I saw this, which IMO is far more of a serious problem: https://archive.is/Qcx66

Showing the Palestinian side is one thing. Twisting the translations from "Jews" to "Israelis" and "Jihad" to "battle" is quite another, and very much hides the ingrained institutionalised hate and education of Palestinian youngsters against Jews. We can still feel sympathetic for their plight while realising these facts as well.

I think a documentary showing the plight of children in Gaza is important and harrowing enough without needlessly introducing unnecessary bias like this. Show what they really said. It doesn't lessen what happened.

(FWIW, I never saw the documentary. Don't have Iplayer.)


 
Posted : 28/02/2025 11:43 am
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Don’t have an issue with it given the amount of Israeli propaganda bullshit we’ve heard over the previous 18 months, have the Israelis allowed independent journalists in to Gaza to report on the situation?.

 

 


 
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And they are mostly neither Jewish nor Israelis.

Yes, they are not. 

They are not Banu Israeli nor origin from the land, they are the occupiers.


 
Posted : 01/03/2025 1:49 am
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/02/israel-cuts-off-humanitarian-supplies-to-gaza-as-it-seeks-to-change-ceasefire-deal

 

So now the Israelis are prepared to put it in writing that they are committing war crimes :

"Prime Minister Netanyahu has decided that, as of this morning, all entry of goods and supplies into the Gaza Strip will cease. Israel will not allow a ceasefire without the release of our hostages,” it said in a statement. 

Previously they just simply lied and claimed that they were not restricting humanitarian aid from entering Gaza. Now they are openly using starvation of civilians as a bargaining chip in brazen violation of the Geneva Convention and international law.

It is all very reminiscent of Nazi tactics in Occupied Europe during WW2


 
Posted : 03/03/2025 12:09 am
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Predictable and expected.   Disgusting behaviour but fits in perfectly with the actions over many years and Netanyahu aims of getting rid of the Palestinians


 
Posted : 03/03/2025 12:23 am
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On tonight on Channel 4 at 11.15pm

 

https://www.channel4.com/press/news/channel-4-announce-network-premiere-oscar-winning-israel-palestine-doc


 
Posted : 04/03/2025 9:52 pm
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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bbc-gaza-documentary-tim-davie-israel-b2708547.html

Impartiality has failed if its key method is to constantly balance “both sides” of a story as equally true. A news outlet that refuses to come to conclusions becomes a vehicle in informational warfare, where bad faith actors flood social media with unfounded claims, creating a post-truth “fog”. Only robust evidence-based conclusions can cut through this.


 
Posted : 07/03/2025 10:26 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/18/israel-gaza-live-blog-updates-air-strikes-strip-netanyahu-hamas

 

Live updates from the Guardian for the renewed attacks.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 10:33 am
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Netenyahu is off the scale nuts, Im assuming the reasoning for this is some kind of internal Israeli politicking, Dementia Don wonte be happy, will this jeopardise his nobel peace prize?


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 10:55 am
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Im assuming the reasoning for this is some kind of internal Israeli politicking,

That's my understanding of it. In his pursuit of continued tenure as Prime Minister, he's had to rely on ever more hard-right coalition partners and meet their demands - because if he doesn't, they'll walk out of government and pave the way for an election - and more criminal investigation of his various alleged corrupt misdeeds. 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 11:02 am
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It would have been cleared by the Don before being executed.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 12:16 pm
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Like Putin,  Netanyahu is keen to do as much damage as he can before any potential peace deal. ****ing animals, war crimes doesn't cover it.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 2:15 pm
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Starmer is either a ****ing coward or he is bought n’ paid for

 

Downing Street rejects Lammy’s claim Israel broke international law in Gaza

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/mar/18/downing-street-rejects-lammy-claim-israel-broke-international-law-gaza


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 3:23 pm
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Lammy's right to state his opinion... it's one I agree with... it's one any impartial observer would agree with as well. Will be interesting when someone asks the PM about that directly... it's be harder to play the "it's a matter of law, not opinion line" then.


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 3:41 pm
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It would have been cleared by the Don before being executed.

 
judging by this statement it would seem that it was and in line with latest US policy for the region
 

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed Israel had notified the US about the attacks before they were launched.

“As President Trump has made it clear - Hamas, the Houthis, Iran and all those who seek to terrorise not just Israel, but also the United States of America, will see a price to pay. All hell will break loose,” she said.

 
 

 
Posted : 18/03/2025 3:45 pm
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The exceptional Francesca Albanese lays it out for all to see and hear

 


 
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The exceptional Francesca Albanese lays it out for all to see and hear

Superb interview

 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 5:32 pm
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Israel saying more strikes on the way and they have America's backing 

 

Is there even anywhere left for the populacr to flee to?


 
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Just caught an interview with an analyst in 5Live saying that if we don't stand firm and condemn war crimes in Gaza and Ukraine, those actions become normalised/accepted, the Geneva Convention etc will be worthless and next time it could be our troops and civilians on the receiving end.

Sobering thought, the way the world is going.


 
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It's hard not to come to the conclusion that the Israelis are liquidising the ghetto.


 
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Not really imo, the logistics facing the israelis is far greater than that faced by the Nazis when they liquidised the ghettos. There are over 2 million Palestinians in Gaza and yet despite the relentless destructive power of Israel they have only managed to kill less than 50,000 of them in the last 18 months. So still another 2 million left.

They have no concentration camps to transport 2 million Palestinians by train to and slowly starving 2 million people with the whole world watching isn't feasible.

They have restarted killing Palestinians in large numbers because that is their usual response to any issues concerning the Palestinians. 


 
Posted : 18/03/2025 11:36 pm
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slowly starving 2 million people with the whole world watching isn't feasible.

Apparently it is. 


 
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Sorry I meant starving to death.


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 9:44 am
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What’s to stop them? Trump? Starmer?


 
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liquidising the ghetto

Not to distract from the point, but I think you meant "liquidating"


 
Posted : 19/03/2025 9:49 am
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What’s to stop them? Trump? Starmer?

Im not sure Starmer has any influence whatsoever on the situation and Trump seems to have fully backed this as part of his current policy which is that "All hell will break loose" on Hamas and others who are terrorising Israel & America, realistically America are the only ones that can pressure Israel in to allowing aid in to palestine, but Trump is more keen on bombing them atm.


 
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What’s to stop them? Trump? Starmer?

You think that the world would allow Israel to starve to death over 2 million men women and children so that they can clear out Gaza in the same way that the Nazis cleared out the Jewish ghettos? Well I guess that's your prerogative, if you actually really believe it.

Im not sure Starmer has any influence whatsoever

The UK has a significant influence over the situation in Palestine which is precisely why Starmer is utterly obsessed with not criticising Israel.

Otherwise Starmer would be perfectly happy to allow, for example, his Foreign Secretary to claim that Israel is breaking international law dismissing the comment as irrelevant. Instead David Lammy (who is a member of Labour Friends of Israel) was slapped down and Downing Street insisted that Israel was only at "risk" of breaking international law.

You would think that a renowned barrister and former head of the Crown Prosecution Service knows that withholding humanitarian aid and electricity, as Israel has proudly boasted they are doing, is a war crime. I am sure that Starmer would have no hesitation at all condemning Russia if they were publicly making similar claims concerning Ukraine.

If the UK government's position had no bearing on the situation in Gaza who doubts that Starmer would go along with public opinion and denounce in a meaningful way what Israel is doing in Gaza?

But to do so would put pressure on the UK government to impose sanctions and an arms embargo on Israel, officially recognise the State of Palestine, use its position as a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council to make the case against the Israeli apartheid regime, etc, all of which would harm Israel.

Starmer does nothing precisely because he knows that doing something would be effective.

 


 
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liquidising the ghetto

Not to distract from the point, but I think you meant "liquidating"

I did, spellcheck beat me to it and now there’s no edit function.

 


 
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Posted by: timba

liquidising the ghetto

Not to distract from the point, but I think you meant "liquidating"

I did, spellcheck beat me to it and now there’s no edit function.

 

To be fair, I think you described the Israeli approach quite accurately 

 


 
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You think that the world would allow Israel to starve to death over 2 million men women and children so that they can clear out Gaza in the same way that the Nazis cleared out the Jewish ghettos? Well I guess that's your prerogative, if you actually really believe it.

Well, they stood by and watched nearly a million Rwandans die, and that was when the US was not allied with one of the participants.

Starmer does nothing precisely because he knows that doing something would be effective.

That seems a bit tortured logic. From my POV Starmer does nothing because it is cost-free, whereas actually growing a moral compass would put him at odds with his paymasters. And his mother-in-law.

 


 
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actually growing a moral compass would put him at odds with his paymasters. 

As I understand it the British people pay Starmer's salary, if you know different would you care to elaborate.

 


 
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-orban-to-discuss-trumps-gaza-plan-in-hungary-this-week-source/

“Netanyahu is trying to build a coalition of as many countries as possible backing Trump’s plan for Gaza,” says the source.

 I'm thinking that shouldn't take him very long. Obviously Netanyahu himself, fellow far-right authoritarian Viktor Orban seems keen, possibly Putin I would have thought, and of course Trump.

Oh and far-right fanatical zionist Milei of Argentina. I can't think of any others. Netanyahu really doesn't seem to have many friends.


 
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I don’t know what the **** is going to happen to Gaza/West Bank over the coming months/years, I read the reports and watch the clips from those in Gaza reporting on the slaughter, I follow the various aid agencies and humanitarian organisations and I’m feeling empty. 

 

I’m coming to the conclusion that after 80+/- years of violence and terror throughout the occupied land there is only one solution, and there doesn’t appear to be any desire whatsoever by the state of Israel and its current government/political structure to veer from it’s utterly blatant for all to see drive for genocidal extermination of the Palestinian population.

 

 


 
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/31/israel-killed-15-palestinian-paramedics-and-rescue-workers-one-by-one-says-un

“A few minutes later, during the call, we heard the sound of Israeli soldiers arriving at the location, speaking in Hebrew. The conversation was about gathering the team, with statements like: ‘Gather them at the wall and bring some restraints to tie them.’ This indicated that a large number of the medical staff were still alive.”

Jens Laerke, an Ocha spokesperson in Geneva, said: “The available information indicates that the first team was killed by Israeli forces on 23 March, and that other emergency and aid crews were struck one after another over several hours as they searched for their missing colleagues.

“They were buried under the sand, alongside their wrecked emergency vehicles – clearly marked ambulances, a fire truck and a UN car.”

This has as much to do with "self-defence" as the Nazi invasion of Poland had. It is genocide.

The tactics the far-right Israeli government government are currently using in Occupied Palestine in 2025 are the tactics which the Nazis used in Occupied Europe in 1945. 

And our current "Labour" government helps and supports them.


 
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No wonder the Israeli government welcomes neo-Nazis with open arms and yet bans without hesitation Jews who are critical of genocidal zionists.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/europe/israel-embraces-france-far-right-intl/index.html


 
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I'm thinking that shouldn't take him very long. Obviously Netanyahu himself, fellow far-right authoritarian Viktor Orban seems keen, possibly Putin I would have thought, and of course Trump.

The unfortunate truth is that he doesn't need any of them except Trump, and it's Trump's idea in the first place.  The short-sighted bit is that once the Mar al Gaza resort is built, Trump won't have any use for Netanyahu (or whichever butcher succeeds him) so they will be left at the mercy of however the winds of history blow.


 
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Actually "Trump's plan for Gaza" apart from the fact that it is completely nonsensical is totally dependent on the support of two Arab countries - Egypt and Jordan.

There is zero chance of Egypt and Jordan supporting Trump's idea of ethnically cleansing Gaza and reallocating Palestinians on Egyptian and/or Jordanian territory.

The only other way Trump's plan for Gaza could be a implemented is if Israel goes full Nazi and figures out a way to murder over 2 million Palestinians on an industrial scale. Israeli finance minister and self confessed fascist Bezalel Smotrich is probably looking into that.

 


 
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Actually "Trump's plan for Gaza" apart from the fact that it is completely nonsensical is totally dependent on the support of two Arab countries - Egypt and Jordan.

There is zero chance of Egypt and Jordan supporting Trump's idea of ethnically cleansing Gaza and reallocating Palestinians on Egyptian and/or Jordanian territory.

The only other way Trump's plan for Gaza could be a implemented is if Israel goes full Nazi and figures out a way to murder over 2 million Palestinians on an industrial scale. Israeli finance minister and self confessed fascist Bezalel Smotrich is probably looking into that.

 

 

Im of the belief that the IDF and the vast majority of the Israeli government went full genocidal mode quite some time ago.

If it was up to myself I’d give every single settler 1 week to vacate their illegal properties on illegally seized land, a return to the original Israeli borders and if they objected to that then tough, live with it or sod off somewhere else 

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 9:53 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/02/israel-announces-intention-seize-large-areas-gaza-strip

Israel Katz said in a statement on Wednesday that “troops will move to clear areas of terrorists and infrastructure, and seize extensive territory that will be added to the state of Israel’s security areas”.

 


 
Posted : 02/04/2025 3:58 pm
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A personal story about what this means in real life:

Mohammed and his family have been displaced again. This is the fifth time. I am speaking about a family of seven people with young children. Mohammed is 18 and the eldest child. He and his four siblings have all missed nearly two years of school and are in a constant struggle for existence.
 
The family immediately returned to northern Gaza during the ceasefire in January and set up a tent next to their destroyed apartment. During the Ceasefire it was quiet and work began on clearing rubble from streets while they built a tent that would protect them a little from the wind and rain.
Over the past weeks, the sound of bombing and fighting began to come closer. They became aware of displacement orders on adjacent neighbourhoods. Quadcopters passed regularly overhead, dropping explosives on rooftops. An Apache helicopter shot at solar panels on rooftops nearby.
 
Yesterday, the feared displacement orders were issued for the family’s neighbourhood. The Al-Radwan Mosque on Al-Muntar Street in Al-Shujaiya neighbourhood was targeted. The mosque is next to the family’s apartment.
 
Mohammed had returned to school on that day, but hearing of the attacks he left the classroom. He sent me this message:
“I woke up and went to class. While I was in class, there were people saying that there was an evacuation in the Shujaiya neighborhood. I heard the news and ran home. My mother was preparing the things and my father was finding someone to take our things. My sisters were nervous, and my little brother Zakaria was scared. We went into the unknown and there was no one to carry the things with us. We did not have a tent to set up and sit in. I was tired all day. A man saw us and he had a tent set up and said he will host us in it until tomorrow. We have nowhere to go and where we are sitting now is not safe. We are really sleeping on the street now and there are a lot of destroyed and bombed houses around us. The bombing is continuing until this moment, and we are still in the early hours of the night.”
 
If you can help Mohammed’s family with a donation they will be very grateful. They have no money and depend completely on donations. The situation has never been more desperate for them.
 

 
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Israeli finance minister and self confessed fascist Bezalel Smotrich is probably looking into that.

That delightful individual features prominently in the BBC documentary I watched last night about the activities him and the other hardline Israeli settlers in the West Bank, which was one of the most fundamentally depressing pieces of telly I’ve ever watched. It’s on iplayer if you fancy putting yourself through it.

These people are indeed fascists. These hate-filled zealots make no attempt to hide the fact that what they’re doing is ethnic cleansing. They’re completely open that if that involves killing every last Palestinian, then that’s what they’ll do. Apparently that’s fine though because god said so 3,000 years ago

Absolute ****s, the lot of them!  


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 11:53 am
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The only other way Trump's plan for Gaza could be a implemented is if Israel goes full Nazi and figures out a way to murder over 2 million Palestinians on an industrial scale.

I was in Auschwitz I / Auschwitz Birkenau last week, a very harrowing experience. I find what the Israeli regime is doing to the Palestinian people beyond belief. The rest of the world just standing by and watching is shameful. As others have alluded to, this is history repeating itself.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 12:20 pm
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The rest of the world just standing by and watching is shameful

A big part of the problem, and it's huge imo, is that most governments, certainly Western governments, are not prepared to break rank with the United States on geopolitical issues. So as long as it serves US interests to prop up Israel other governments will simply fall in line.

Although all that might be about to change thanks to Donald Trump. Trump has made what was once  unthinkable, ie Western governments rejecting the United States leading role in international and foreign affairs, a real possibility.

Palestine might quite realistically become a beneficiary of this unprecedented global political shift of influence. If Western governments can become hostile towards US policy with regards to Ukraine and international trade then it is reasonable to assume that they could become hostile towards US Middle East policies.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 1:05 pm
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If Western governments can become hostile towards US policy with regards to Ukraine and international trade then it is reasonable to assume that they could become hostile towards US Middle East policies.

Which countries are these? UK and Germany, where pro-Palestinian expression is already verboten ?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/germany-deporting-pro-palestine-eu-citizens-chilling-new-step


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 4:08 pm
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Yes those are exactly the sort of countries which I am referring to, wealthy Western countries which since WW2 have slavishly towed the United States foreign policy line.

Obviously some countries will find it easier to stand up in opposition to US foreign policy, for example France, and some will find it harder, eg the UK.

But I think one of the legacy of the Trump presidency will be that many countries will in the long-term follow foreign policy stances independent of Washington, or at least less dependant.

Trump has proved that the United States is not necessarily a reliable friend and ally.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 4:34 pm
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wealthy Western countries which since WW2 have slavishly towed the United States foreign policy line.

I don't think Germany and the UK have toed (n.b.) the line - they have been quite happy to provide diplomatic and physical weaponry to Israel for their own purposes. It could be that European governments will be freer to deviate from the Washington diktat in future, but the last Palestinain will be long dead before that makes any difference.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 5:31 pm
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It could be that European governments will be freer to deviate from the Washington diktat in future, but the last Palestinain will be long dead before that makes any difference.

Well Starmer would greatly approve of your dismissive attitude, as would zionists worldwide .However those campaigning tirelessly for the isolation of the apartheid regime recognise the critical role that Western governments play and the very obvious responsibility they have to do whatever necessary to stop the genocide. From respecting the international arrest warrant for Netanyahu, to stopping all arms sales to Israel, to applying comprehensive economic and cultural sanctions.


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 5:52 pm
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The UK have had their foot in the door ever since Chaim Weizmann showed them how to make acetone... Cue the Balfour Declaration...


 
Posted : 04/04/2025 5:54 pm
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After escaping from Shujaiya neighbourhood with his family yesterday, my friend Mohammed snuck back today to rescue some school books that he had left behind. He took this photo of Israeli tanks perched on the hill above his neighbourhood. Later in the day, there were huge explosions from Shujaiya that were captured in part during an Al Jazeera interview (Hani Mahmoud commented that the noises came from Shujaiya). It appears the area is being flattened by bombardment as have so many other parts of Gaza.


 
Posted : 05/04/2025 7:34 am
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So clear evidence emerges today providing proof of a recent war crime  committed by the IDF. But the BBC, which is terrified of being accused of criticising Israel, won't describe it in clear unambiguous terms

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2z103nqxo

No the video footage doesn't  "appear" to contradict Israeli account of the Gaza medic killings, it very clearly does contradict their account.

But such is the power of screaming "anti-semitism" should anyone dare to criticise the far-right genocidal regime in Tel Aviv. 

I particularly liked this :

Israel's Foreign Minister Gideon Saar earlier this week echoed the army account, saying "the IDF did not randomly attack an ambulance".

Of course they don't, it is deliberate and calculating, after they have carefully identified that it is an ambulance, as are their cover-up stories.

It was rather slack of them to bury the paramedic with his phone after they had murdered him though.


 
Posted : 05/04/2025 4:45 pm
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Any government that doesn't call this out - properly call this out, not just "raise a concern" - should be ashamed. And any government continuing to supply military equipment to the Israelis is complicit in war crimes.


 
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The BBC now saying that the IDF confess to having "made a mistake". We've all been there. One minute you're on your sofa, catching up on the latest STW posts, the next minute you're machine gunning an ambulance and executing paramedics. Anyone can make a mistake.


 
Posted : 07/04/2025 9:21 am
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Don't the Israelis mean that they made the mistake of not retrieving the mobile phones of dead Red Crescent workers after they had executed them?

 

I believe that the paramedic who was filming, Refat Radwan, started praying even before the attack started. I guess every paramedic and first responder in Gaza will be fully aware of the risk of being murdered by the IDF for doing their job of trying to save lives.

 

Presumably this why Refat Radwan was filming in the first place.

Edited to give the paramedic his name.


 
Posted : 07/04/2025 12:10 pm
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How the crap does a country which is arguably best known for its own genocide of millions get to the point where they are deporting people who are against genocide?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/09/germany-deport-me-eu-citizen-no-crime-standing-palestine

 

I used to have a Palestinian flag on the back of our van alongside a "**** PTN" sticker in the colours fo the Ukrainian flag. Needless to say, given both myself and the GF have dual citizenship here in Germany the flag was removed prior to crossing back into the Vaterland.

 

Sickening.

 

 


 
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How the crap does a country which is arguably best known for its own genocide of millions get to the point where they are deporting people who are against genocide?

 

Because they've disappeared so far up the genocidal zionist arse that daylight is no longer a possibility.

**** them all, **** every card carrying Netanyahu loving zionist

 

I no longer care if I upset folk with my opinion.

 


 
Posted : 09/04/2025 7:03 pm
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Israel has a long history of exploiting situations where the world's eyes are focused on other things, now is no exception as they intensify their genocide against the Palestinian people.

 

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250411-un-finds-36-israeli-strikes-on-gaza-killed-only-women-and-children

"Between 18 March and 9 April 2025, there were some 224 incidents of Israeli strikes on residential buildings and tents for internally displaced people," she told reporters in Geneva.

"In some 36 strikes about which the UN Human Rights Office corroborated information, the fatalities recorded so far were only women and children," she said.


 
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with Israel only intensifying its attacks and Trump cosying up to netenyahu even harder, its hard to he optimistic, but these guys are worth a follow and theres a link to donate in their bio

 

https://www.instagram.com/gaza_skate_team?igsh=YXpuZGo0dWYwZmo1


 
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