yes, whights. Not any of the WWs who were standing about
Yeah I don't think it's confirmed where the WWs came from, were they created by the children of the forest (and the NK was just the first one of them/leader), are they created by the NK from the sacrificed babies who then age (surely there would be a lot more of them though, nearly 100 just from the Craster babies and not all would look super old) or created through some other means? Only makes sense for them to shatter along with the NK if the NK created them.
the only way anyone was going to survive was for the either the Night King to be gravely wounded and flee (with the White Walkers getting slaughtered) or for him to die
They did explicitly say just that early on and Bran in the Godswood was bait for the Night King. Theon's lot guarding Bran didn't amount to a plan to kill him though so it was obvious something else was afoot.
Spectacle and mayhem aside, Beric's sneaking around dark corridors and peeping round corners while stealthily holding up a clearly audible 3 foot burning sword was one of my favourite bits!
It’s not spelt out explicitly but as it’s shown that WW can create more WW from humans, and that the NK was created by the children, I’m going to assume that the NK is the “father” of all the WW so it makes sense that if he dies, they all die too.
Apart from being too dark (couldn't really tell what happened at the crypt until I read about it) I thought it was excellent.
Would have liked Arya of many faces disguise herself as Bran and surprise the night king jumping out of the wheelchair to stab him, then pulling her Bran mask off - that would have been a better twist than pouncing from the bushes. Also would have liked Jon finding he was fireproof and escaping from zombies that way.
Not sure how Bran zoning out helped. It was a bit like a 'this isn't going well, time to get high' move.
Can't be much left but clean up and admin now!
Would have liked Arya of many faces disguise herself as Bran and surprise the night king jumping out of the wheelchair to stab him, then pulling her Bran mask off – that would have been a better twist than pouncing from the bushes.
Erm, she has to kill em before she can take their faces - not sure Bran would have been up for that.
Not sure how Bran zoning out helped.
I suspect Bran to be pivotal to the plot...
Bran has the mark on him so couldn't fake it / move. It's like a tracking device
Do keep up 🙂
despite having a nearly new OLED telly
The dark scenes made me wish Id stuck with my old plasma TV, handled black colour so much better than LED or OLED
Would have liked Arya of many faces disguise herself as Bran and surprise the night king jumping out of the wheelchair to stab him, then pulling her Bran mask off
Woudldnt she have to had kill Bran to take his face to use as a mask?
I did have a little giggle to myself last night as I went to sleep - the Night King spent the best part of a decade marching from North of the Wall to Winterfell, only to get stabbed in the guts by a 5' tall Girl.
what binners said! except i did rewatch it again straight away!!
Nobody else get a feeling we might see Tyrion and Sansa on the iron throne now...?
Woudldnt she have to had kill Bran to take his face to use as a mask?
Yeah, but I did suspect as Bran sat there all chilled waiting for the Night King to slooooooooowly Walk over, it would be just like Ayra to be sat there all tooled up under the blanket. Very GoT too. Sorry Bran, you’re useless, needs must and all that.
If, I did have to critique last nights episode, I would say it was slightly more Hollywood than the usual GoT, as bad as things got only a couple of fringe named characters died and about a million ‘red shirts’. In previous series it wouldn’t have been unusual for everyone in the crypt to be found dead after the battle for example, it’s never been a ‘nice’ programme, but still that’s being hyper critical.
All signs point towards a fairly standard TV ending now, there will be a big battle, Cerse will die, the hound will kill the mountain and a few other old scores settled and it’s likely that Jon Snow will sit on the throne either next to Dany or because she’s dead. Normal GoT MO wouldn’t be that, I’m dying to find out what happens though.
Nobody else get a feeling we might see Tyrion and Sansa on the iron throne now…?
I can't get past the line many series ago that paraphrased was 'Tyrion will decide who ends up on the throne'.
Surely that's just foreshadowing him shooting his old man on the shitter.
Top 10 TV battle, if not #1 ever.
Full of holes, but failing to care. Could have used more than 2 bits difference in the dark grey of night vs the ever-so-slightly-lighter grey of everything else. Maybe that was my telly. Rest of the series has been like that so no surprise.
I thought Jorah would make it to the final shindig at KL though. That said:
Not enough major characters died
It was living vs dead, was expecting more apocalyptic, with just a straggle of humans to make it out.
So what was the Night King doing with Bran? Did he want to zombify him because he could zone out? Or was that going to be a tap on the shoulder - "it's your job now son"?
Surely that’s just foreshadowing him shooting his old man on the shitter.
He didn’t.
He shot him on the tummy.
Twice. 😉
No complaints with my 12 year old Panasonic plasma!!The dark scenes made me wish Id stuck with my old plasma TV, handled black colour so much better than LED or OLED
Would have liked Arya of many faces disguise herself as Bran and surprise the night king jumping out of the wheelchair to stab him, then pulling her Bran mask off – that would have been a better twist than pouncing from the bushes.
Erm, she has to kill em before she can take their faces – not sure Bran would have been up for that.
Brad still alive (otherwise the night king may have sensed his death) but behind the tree zoned out with his face cut off. That would have been more GoT than the actual ending!
Yeah they've been building up Arya for ages, obvious she had a big part to play so not really surprised.
I did think maybe the NK fight would be a little more drawn out with possibly some of the other WW getting involved somewhere along the way.
On the whole though I was gripped for the entire episode, glad some of the bigger characters have made in through to finish the story off gradually over the remaining episodes - rather than most of them getting cut-down within a few minutes.
Looking forward to what's left...
I did think maybe the NK fight would be a little more drawn out with possibly some of the other WW getting involved somewhere along the way.
To be fair, every fight to date with a WW has been really short. I don’t think they’re particularly skilled fighters .
Other than Jon at Hardhome, every other encounter has been either steel sword shatters followed by a fatal stab by WW or living person delivers fatal stab with dragonglass or valyrian steel.
Looked good on my Panasonic Plasma/Sky HD (though still hard to work out what was going on) but the dark scenes have been a great demonstration of just how bad overcompressed SD content can look
https://twitter.com/firefawkes/status/1122948578727661568
The Night King was always going to be a bit of a let down - the interesting story is the battle for the thone. Unkillable enemies have to die somehow and his army did take out most of the Northern forces (even if sparing far more of the main characters than expected).
I'm still at a bit of a loss over the Night King/Bran story. Bran didn't actually seem to present him any real danger, nor did it seem he would have gained a load more power. What was the point of Bran warging into the Ravens? He didn't bring back any info, that wasnt what drew the Night King to him?
Also, what happened to the wolf? They made a big thing in the last episode of showing it was back and with Jon on the battlefield but nothing of it in the actual battle...
Also, what happened to the wolf?
Charged with the Dothraki. Never came back.
It was spotted in the preview for next week though.
Well I thought hat was epic! But the best thing about it was the score, and I'm surprised it's not been mentioned yet, Ramin Djawadi is a genius.
The first 45 mins was pretty much as expected, although the Dothraki's lights going out was particularly chilling. The last 30 mins absolutely flew by, helped by that score setting it up, I couldn't believe the time. Great ending and hopefully an episode to take stock then another battle for KL and the throne. Brilliant telly!! 😀
Bran is a bit annoying now. I hope they explain why he took the crow joyride? Are we going to see the wolf pack coming into play?
So will Arya be the one to kill Cersei?
The Red Which talked about eye colour - Arya twigged she needed to off the NK when see said blue eyes, but whose are the green eyes?
Cersei is supposed to have green eyes, has she killed anyone else with green eyes?
What happened to Tormund? We didn't see much of him.
Good to see Theon redeem himself too.
Ramin Djawadi is a genius.
Yup - loved his Westworld work...
What happened to Tormund? We didn’t see much of him.
I couldn't see him but could hear him grunting occationally.
Good grief what is going on with that image above that's terrible?
Bran isn't Bran anymore, he's the Three Eyed Raven and has all the memories of humankind. The Night King wants to wipe out humanity and all those memories. That's why his mission was to get Bran. Everything else was just a sideshow to him.
There is a difference between a Zombie plot line and a major character who comes back – not as a Zombie – after being killed off at the end of a season.
Yeah, I believed it all until that happened.
Great representation of a Singletrack thread. Game of thrones discussion, let's talk about the telly, surprised no one has mentioned the chair they watched it on 😀
I watched it in a massive chair made from hundreds of bike frames of my defeated enemies.
surprised no one has mentioned the chair they watched it on
I watched it on a comfy settee with the window open as it was a nice day, it was just like being outside.
Good grief what is going on with that image above that’s terrible?
I would guess either:
1) It's a photo of someone's telly.
2) The owner of said telly turned the brightness allllll the way up to try to see, what they weren't supposed to be able to see.
For what it's worth, I watched it on NowTV (1080p via an LG 42" 4K LCD TV fans) and it was very good, apart from being dark, which it was supposed to be, especially at the point in the story above when the audience was supposed to be shocked at the mighty dothraki (I'm not sure of the spelling) each represented by a light in the darkness of night, all being extinguished one-by-one by a scary, unseen enemy.
The owner of said telly turned the brightness allllll the way up to try to see, what they weren’t supposed to be able to see.
Seems that way that is terrible.
I have an achy back so I watched it on a computer monitor lying flat on my back in bed. It has the benefit that I'm already in bed if the episode turns out to be a snoozefest. Couldn't see much of what was going on though. Anyone else notice that it was really dark and hard to make out?
Anyone else notice that it was really dark and hard to make out?
I think it's your laptop mate, no one else has mentioned anything like that. In fact I was only saying to the wife this morning that, about half way through I wanted to grab my Sunnies to try to block out some of the glare.
For what it’s worth, I watched it on NowTV (1080p via an LG 42″ 4K LCD TV fans)
NowTV will have presented your telly with 720p - they don't broadcast in 1080.
The Night King was always going to be a bit of a let down – the interesting story is the battle for the thone. Unkillable enemies have to die somehow and his army did take out most of the Northern forces (even if sparing far more of the main characters than expected).
I disagree, OK granted the show is called Game of Thrones and it's really about who sits on the Iron throne which I don't think the NK ever cared about but the NK was the aspect that could have stopped the usual merry-go-round of Westeros kings & queens. Apart from the NK being defeated nothing's happened that hasn't happened many times before with different characters.
The whole Winter is Coming thing now just seems like a minor side-story, could have cut out a season or two and just wrapped it up early if it's all just going to be about Cersei vs Jon/Dany. I'm hoping it's more complicated than that and there will be some interesting twist in the final few episodes but I'm losing faith.
Its even better 2nd time around with the room set up darker 🙂
let’s talk about the telly, surprised no one has mentioned the chair they watched it on 😀
I’m surprised nobody has gone for full STW points and come into the thread just to say they don’t even own a TV
The whole Winter is Coming thing now just seems like a minor side-story, could have cut out a season or two and just wrapped it up early if it’s all just going to be about Cersei vs Jon/Dany.
Winter is still coming. Just because the NK is dead doesn't mean that the long winter isn't going to happen. It could be more portentous as to mean that the Starks are coming. As is always convenient I'm sure they'll find some more troops to march South.
As for missing a couple of seasons it's always been about the journey though the destination promises to be a doozy too. I'm curious did you binge watch or watched as broadcast? I've watched it all as broadcast but started boxset watching again. Does take a different perspective I reckon.
Its even better 2nd time around with the room set up darker
The crappy stream quality hasn't helped - kept getting distracted by visual artefacts in the dark scenes. Will have to decide if I actually want to fork out for a Blu Ray copy when it gets released...
haters gonna hate, but this one is a bit more tongue in cheek...
https://www.wired.com/story/game-of-thrones-winterfell-battle-tactical-analysis/
surprised no one has mentioned the chair they watched it on
I watched on the throne.
Has the added benefit that I'm already in position to take a massive dump if I need to express my opinion of a poor episode.
I watched on the throne.
Whilst doing the ironing?
