Yep "Chaos is a ladder" I read it as Brans way of saying "I know you and I know everything you've done" It's going to have Littlefinger assessing Bran as his greatest threat.
Littlefinger must suspect that Bran knows that he made the deal that handed Sansa over to Ramsey Bolton and possibly that it was Littlefinger that ordered Brans death with the catspaw dagger (this is speculation as it's not been revealed whether it was Littlefinger or Tyrion but my money's on Littlefinger).
Why on earth did the dothraki go charging in to battle.
I think they enjoy killing, plundering, and raping.
Why on earth did the dothraki go charging in to battle.
Good telly innit.
Omnipitence = being a total cheapskate
Omnipittance - if you're going to correct someone who can't be arsed to spell check, at least do it yourself.
EDIT: Though I'll take the omniscience bit 🙂
Omnipittance
I think you just made that up.
That - and although fearsome the dragon is not invulnerable... it aborted an attack after a volley of normal arrows from the Lannisters (and obviously there's always a chance of one hitting the rider) so I think without an army supporting/distracting they would've been able to take it down with enough arrows/spears etc (as almost happened in the fighting pit before, although the dragon was smaller/weaker then).Good telly innit.
I wouldn't be surprised if one dragon does not make it through to series 8 - that would also stop any speculation as to whether there's a third Targaryen to ride it!
No way will all the dragons see the end.
I know the big battle caught everyones attention but this was briliant
Pods absolutely loving seeing someone get on equal terms with Brienne
Sansa's like "I'm not sure who's weirder my sister or my brother"
1:27 is a move straight from Arya's old dancing master.
muppetWrangler - MemberI know the big battle caught everyones attention but this was briliant
I thought it was actually kind of lame. I mean, I enjoyed it as a cute gimmick - Brienne and Arya are great characters and it was good to see them interact but it seemed pretty pointless from a narrative point of view - Arya's spent years away training to be a super secret ninja but she just can't help herself and calls out one of the hardest people in Westeros for a sparring session just so she can let everyone know she's a super secret ninja?
Matt Easton agrees with you though 🙂
jimjam, I hadn't really thought about it from a narrative arc just bloody loved it.
But it did serve a couple of purposes. Littlefinger got to see that Bran had re-gifted his dagger and Sansa got to see that Arya probably wasn't joking about the 'list'
alternatively - if she wants to kill the Hound, knowing she can beat the person who beat him is probably helpful?Arya's spent years away training to be a super secret ninja but she just can't help herself and calls out one of the hardest people in Westeros for a sparring session just so she can let everyone know she's a super secret ninja?
Also, it was cool.
alternatively - if she wants to kill the Hound, knowing she can beat the person who beat him is probably helpful?
Not going to happen.
A) She crossed him off the list after leaving him to die.
B) The Hound needs to kill the Mountain for her.
Arya's spent years away training to be a super secret ninja
no she hasn't, she's spent years away, learning [i]from[/i] super secret ninjas so she can kill the people on her list.
muppetWranglerBut it did serve a couple of purposes. Littlefinger got to see that Bran had re-gifted his dagger and Sansa got to see that Arya probably wasn't joking about the 'list'
Littlefinger could have noticed the dagger walking past her, and I'm pretty sure Sansa had already realised Arya wasn't joking about the list when Bran referenced to it.
alternatively - if she wants to kill the Hound, knowing she can beat the person who beat him is probably helpful?
Yes but she's a super secret shape changing ninja assassin. She could kill easily kill the Hound by assuming the identity of one of his traveling mates.
If she wants to kill him one on one, that's different and I think the scene made it obvious Breanne would mess her up.
I realise I'm nitpicking, it was a fun scene. But if i was a super secret ninja....
nickcno she hasn't, she's spent years away, learning from super secret ninjas so she can kill the people on her list.
She has all of their abilities, that we know of at least.
But mainly it was cool though eh?
Yeah it was cool.
She has all of their abilities, that we know of at least.
she has no interest in being one of the faceless men, how do we know? because the one thing she couldn't do when asked to shed her previous life, was to rid herself of needle, it's the link to her past She used them like she used Hound (who isn't on her kill list anymore S6EP3)
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She has all of their abilities, that we know of at least.she has no interest in being one of the faceless men, how do we know? because the one thing she couldn't do when asked to shed her previous life, was to rid herself of needle, it's the link to her past She used them like she used Hound (who isn't on her kill list anymore S6EP3)
Yes, we know that she isn't actually one of the faceless men. But they are an elite band of assassins who use stealth to kill people. Let's not forget that Ayra singlehandedly infiltrated the Frey's castle (disguised). Killed Walder Frey, assumed his identity, organises a feast and infront of his immediate family kills them all with poisoned wine.
Yes, she did this for her own motives but it shows pretty clearly that she has all of the secretive ninja ways of the faceless men, that we know of, and stealth is obviously a fairly large component of that.
It's also a throwback to season 1, the last time she was in winterfell, when they wouldn't let her do sword practice
Cracker of an episode.
Littlefinger sh*ts himself
Arya does ninja things at Brienne
Dany nearly speared in several different ways
Bronn!
2:1 on Jaime having some near-death revelation whilst in the pond by the dragon.
8/10 - needs more Hound, cave paintings were silly.
lovin' all the speculation and plots! 😀
didn't she land a "kill" right away with Needle before Brienne realised how good she was? And then didn't it end with a stalemate, as Brienne was poised to run her through but Arya's dagger was already at her throat?I think the scene made it obvious Breanne would mess her up.
Definitely needs more Hound.
He is the best one.
😀
I think the scene made it obvious Breanne would mess her up.
[i]didn't she land a "kill" right away with Needle before Brienne realised how good she was? And then didn't it end with a stalemate, as Brienne was poised to run her through but Arya's dagger was already at her throat?[/i]
yes....funny how peeps are seeing such different stuff throughout.
One thing that is becoming clear is that even if there were two more series after this one, there is not enough time for the story to conclude satisfactorily! 🙁
zilog6128didn't she land a "kill" right away with Needle before Brienne realised how good she was? And then didn't it end with a stalemate, as Brienne was poised to run her through but Arya's dagger was already at her throat?
I read it that she was caught unawares by someone she regarded as a harmless child (who she's sworn to protect). Also, to your earlier point that she was using Brienne as a gauge to see how she would fair against the Hound, I thought the hound had nearly died of some kind of sickenss shortly before they fought.
One thing that is becoming clear is that even if there were two more series after this one, there is not enough time for the story to conclude satisfactorily!
Better to burn out than fade away.
I'd not given her motivation for the fight any thought until it was mentioned here tbh, that was just an off-the-cuff theory! Also I'd forgotten about her crossing the hound off the list earlier when she thought he was dead. That'll probably absolve him when she discovers he's still alive especially as he's a goody now!Also, to your earlier point that she was using Brienne as a gauge to see how she would fair against the Hound, I thought the hound had nearly died of some kind of sickenss shortly before they fought.
Did make me laugh when Brienne stuck the boot in against Arya! Sworn protector indeed! 😆
Must have been someone else, sorry.
interesting interview in the Telegraph about the making of that episode. The battle scene took 18 days to shoot and then several weeks to doing all the effects. Brienne and Arya trained for months before the dueling scene which took two days to film.
Re the dragon flaming, one shot had 20 stuntmen burning for about 15 secs which is the most they can do as they are holding their breath!
Rockape, did you watch that video I posted back there? Really good look behind the scenes.
no, that was me, just it was a spur of the momentMust have been someone else, sorry.
thought rather than what I thought was really going to happen!!
@Rockape, yeah you can really see where all the millions are going, the battles & dragon (for this series, there have been some questionable CGI bits previously!) are incredibly well done, better than anything else on TV or film even IMO
There's a overall lack of impossible physics during the CGI, which is nice.
Lucas, I'm looking at you. And you, Jackson.
Yes, yes, dragons etc.
So, let me see if I have this right.
Team Cersei has the iron bank backing her and a ton of food and only a single front to maintain.
Team Starkgaeryn are looking a bit short on resources and squaring up on two fronts.
The Walkers have immortality and reanimation and a hugemungous army of zombies, and an area of the map where nobody else can go.
Odds, anyone?
Odds, anyone?
I'd like to see the undead win. Most of Team Human just annoy me.
I know this will not happen.
There's a overall lack of impossible physics during the CGI, which is nice.
Except the way the dragon fire shoots out towards the ground in a dead straight line while they're flying along.
would be a great ending though, a nice dose of nihilism to make GoT stand out from every other fantasy [s]yawnfest[/s] epic out there.I know this will not happen.
I know this will not happen.
I think it would end the series [s]nicely[/s] [s]badly[/s] differently.
Makes you wonder what the undead want to do once they've exterminated all human life. And they hate the heat, so it would make sense if everyone retreated to Dorne.
Actually, there's a theory...
Makes you wonder what the undead want to do once they've exterminated all human life.
Not sure they know. After all, they were created by The Children Of The Forest to kill men, with no further instructions/motivations after that point.
I wondered about the shot where it paused on littlefinger after the Brianne ayra fight. There is a clear raven/crows cawing sound in the background... Almost as though to hint that he is being watched by bran.... And that he is realising all the Starks are aligning against him.
Except the way the dragon fire shoots out towards the ground in a dead straight line while they're flying along
Yes, yes, dragons etc
anyway.
fisha, Bran is watching everything. Everywhere. And he can do it in the past and stuff.
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Rockape, did you watch that video I posted back there? Really good look behind the scenes.
Saw the one on the sword fight....think he was taking it all far too seriously! 🙂
Bout time a leading cast member got wasted (ep 5)....but who? 😕
Only three episodes left FFS...although the last one is 90mins long. 😀
It's definitely got too comfortable, a lot of the best moments have been based around the unkillable (not in a physical sense but because they're an apparently pivotal character) being bumped off.
In the next episode I'd like to see a big hitter from Team Northerners & Dragons die. Mainly as they seem to have waaaay more important players on their team.
Off the top of my head.
Sansa, Ayra, Jon Snow, Brianne, Dany, Tyrion, [s]Dumbledore[/s] Sam Tarly, Grey Worm, Sir Davos, Dragons, Theon and his sister.
vs
Bron, Cersei, Jaime, Mountain and Euron.
p.s: no one cares about Dorne.
Failing that, a 60 min Hound episode.
It's definitely got too comfortable, a lot of the best moments have been based around the unkillable (not in a physical sense but because they're an apparently pivotal character) being bumped off
Might have already happened. Must be hard to swim in armour.
[quote=fisha ]I wondered about the shot where it paused on littlefinger after the Brianne ayra fight. There is a clear raven/crows cawing sound in the background... Almost as though to hint that he is being watched by bran.... And that he is realising all the Starks are aligning against him.
My thought there was that he was up at the Maester's ravens sending some out/making plans?
I also do think they have shied away from killing off major characters and things are getting a little contrived.
Might have already happened. Must be hard to swim in armour.
Yeah...and that was one deep river! Whoever saw a river that was over 50ft deep next to the bank? There should have been deep water warning signs!
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Rockape, did you watch that video I posted back there? Really good look behind the scenes.
Saw the one on the sword fight....think he was taking it all far too seriously!
No not that one, the making of featurette on Game of Thrones own youtube channel. Well worth a watch.
