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They read like they were written by a pubescent spotty teenage boy 😂


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 5:47 pm
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Clearly someone really, really wants to bring Horner down.

Authorities have asked suspects to please form an orderly queue


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 5:50 pm
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Next years docu - soap to be called "Google Drive -to Survive"


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 5:53 pm
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^ Clever. Very clever.


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 5:57 pm
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Same joke's been made a thousand times on Twitter...


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 5:58 pm
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Jeez, from the supposed leaked images on Twitter there's nothing in what I saw other than him hinting for pics and her refusing (unless I've not found the correct screen shots).


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 6:08 pm
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(Assuming they are legit) it reads like they are/were having an affair or sexting. However this may have instead been her replying like that because it was implied she would lose her job if she didn't go along with it. (again, assuming the leaked screenshots are legit)


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 6:23 pm
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I think it is best to reserve judgement until this stuff has been verified.


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 6:29 pm
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I would imagine the CEO (or whatever his job is) having an affair, or even sexting, a junior employee wpuld count as gross misconduct. Certainly wpuld anywhere I've worked.

But surely they can't be real...how could RB not have foreseen they'd be leaked if they whitewashed the whole thing


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 6:30 pm
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Pay off the complainee.

The cheque clears during the first GP weekend and they think they've been diddled and launch an offensive


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 6:58 pm
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Not forgetting Geri in all this - I wonder if the content of those screenshots matches the version of events Christian gave to her. He may find the locks changed when he flies home.


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 7:08 pm
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I think it is best to reserve judgement until this stuff has been verified

Sir, this is the internet.


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 7:22 pm
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Lead story on DM website now - and they’ve turned off comments!! That normally only happens when things have gone legal.


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 7:27 pm
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Lead story on DM website now – and they’ve turned off comments!! That normally only happens when things have gone legal.

For the benefit of everyone else (so we don't have to pollute our browsing history and get bombarded with DM related ads or articles), did the DM actually shed any more light on this subject or are they regurgitating the same rumours/speculation that's here?


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 7:32 pm
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I see Horner has [url= https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tnCDJe4MNh4 ]released a statement[/url] about the leak


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 7:36 pm
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did the DM actually shed any more light on this subject

I'd imagine it's another portion of detailed incisive investigative comment. The DM's known for it dontchaknow...🙂


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 7:37 pm
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did the DM actually shed any more light on this subject or are they regurgitating the same rumours/speculation that’s here?

Lot's of 'allegedly' in the text - and nothing more than has been on Twitter. I'm sure their diligent journos are on it though! 🙂

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Posted : 29/02/2024 7:40 pm
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Does anyone know who the other party was in those text messages?


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 8:07 pm
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Toto Wolff


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 8:12 pm
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Apparently UK media outlets have had emails from lawyers warning them that they'll be sued if they publish the alleged files


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 9:03 pm
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Nothing says "we're confident in the outcome of our open and transparent investigation" like threats of legal action.


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 10:52 pm
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I have just been sat reading the google drive messages. Jesus christ he was/is like a love sick child if the texts are true. Talk about pestering.


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 11:41 pm
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More exciting than watching the racing!


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 11:49 pm
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Still less interesting than watching paint dry.


 
Posted : 29/02/2024 11:50 pm
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...Christian Hornier <s****>

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Sorry


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 12:09 am
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He's buggered, it's on the front page of The Sun!!

I know, but if the media's had warning emails AND still go ahead he's done for.


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 7:08 am
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Strange that if you google "horner screenshots" and look at Images you see the thumbnail on the Reddit page but when you click through it has been redacted. Still, the ones you can see are all pretty tame - "What are you doing" "See you soon" "Are you enjoying Bahrain" ....


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 8:47 am
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Still, the ones you can see are all pretty tame

Yeah, I've seen this being mentioned on other sites, its a red herring.


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 8:53 am
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You may need to read the Bahrain one more closely 😱


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 9:14 am
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I would imagine the CEO (or whatever his job is) having an affair, or even sexting, a junior employee wpuld count as gross misconduct. Certainly would anywhere I’ve worked.

In my field, just this happened a couple of weeks ago. Rock star of a biotech too. In an earlier case in my company, a former president was removed for historic allegations too. Ford will be the decision makers here. I expect he'll be gone by the second or third GP.


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 9:25 am
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I reckon he'll be gone sooner, at least temporarily...some statement about "whilst i continue to deny these allegations, its a distraction....step down in the short term to clear my name blah blah blah"

Unless RB can immediately prove they're fakes....which i think they are


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 9:30 am
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Strange that if you google “horner screenshots” and look at Images you see the thumbnail on the Reddit page but when you click through it has been redacted. Still, the ones you can see are all pretty tame – “What are you doing” “See you soon” “Are you enjoying Bahrain” ….

I've got the link as sent to the journos.  It looks legit to me,  there is a lot of stuff where she is quite obviously trying to get rid of him and references to ****ing etc.
Also if the dick pic is real, the man needs medical assistance.  Looks like a dogs red rocket.

 
Posted : 01/03/2024 9:54 am
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Also if the dick pic is real, the man needs medical assistance. Looks like a dogs red rocket.

...does she tell him to put his lipstick away!!?? 🤣 🤣 🐶 💄


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 10:07 am
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The reason I think they're fakes is that surely the woman trying to prove her case would have shown her WhatsApp messages to the barrister, wouldn't she?  I can't believe Red bull would be stupid enough to think they could pretend the messages didn't exist, surely?


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 10:09 am
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the google drive link is easily accessible on twitter now. The screenshots I've seen on twitter are only of the less 'racy' messages. It's clear that some kind of affair is going on and the 'other woman' is at the least, very unsure about it's wisdom. Horner is calling late at night and getting rebuffed, it's all very tawdry and sad.

Unless the messages are all fake, there's no way hes keeping his job.

 I can’t believe Red bull would be stupid enough to think they could pretend the messages didn’t exist, surely?

They might well have thought that it could be contained with Horner contrite and missy paid off. That just leaves someone else in the organisation with an axe to grind...


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 10:19 am
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[i] I can’t believe Red bull would be stupid enough to think they could pretend the messages didn’t exist, surely?[/i]

They may know they exist but do believe they are able to explain them and dismiss them as 'playful and consensual workplace banter' perhaps? If you have an eager young lawyer who wants to show the client how good he is and the client asks 'Can you defend against these messages' the Answer may come back as 'Yes, I can get these dismissed and then stir up public anger about people making false sex allegations, every powerful man in authority will lend their weight to that campaign and they will make Horner a Saint'

I have seen meetings like that where no-one in the room is brave enough to call Bullshit and stupidity leads the way.


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 10:21 am
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They might well have thought that it could be contained with Horner contrite and missy paid off. That just leaves someone else in the organisation with an axe to grind…

Well Helmut has had his flabber gasted!...
https://www.planetf1.com/news/helmut-marko-reacts-alleged-christian-horner-evidence-leak


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 10:27 am
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Is it normal for an organisation to appoint their own 'unbiased and impartial' lawyer to investigate? It just feels that, if the lawyer is being appointed by the company, and that company is the defendant, then that lawyer probably isn't going to be unbiased, no?


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 10:35 am
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Does anyone know who the other party was in those text messages?

This was just code for "is she fit?" wasn't it?


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 10:56 am
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Half the pit lane must think this proves the existence of God 😆


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 11:07 am
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Is it normal for an organisation to appoint their own ‘unbiased and impartial’ lawyer to investigate?

I don't know how common it is, but it's a sensible way to investigate - hire someone unconnected to the company with a solid legal background to investigate and give an opinion. If there are criminal charges involved, the police will investigate, but this isn't a criminal matter AFAIK.


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 11:19 am
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but this isn’t a criminal matter AFAIK

Unless it could be deemed cyber flashing. I've seen some (the ones on reddit) but not all messages, and it doesn't seem like she particularly wants to send or recieve pics.


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 11:34 am
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For those who won't grace the DM website - here's a quote...

It's the audacity of Christian Horner that really takes your breath away.  The brass neck and air of absolute invincibility which has allowed him to strut around an F1 paddock in Bahrain, cock of the walk, betraying no sense of personal jeopardy when he would have known about a deluge of WhatsApp messages which surely mean he is finished. That's what incalculable wealth, power and adulation will do to an individual, though. Horner has lived the high life and basked in the A-lister world, been serenaded by Gary Barlow and Rod Stewart at his own 50th birthday bash in London's Mayfair not so long ago. 

...and 5 articles on him. Knives are out!


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 11:49 am
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Knives are out!

Indeed. Actually I'm not quite feeling as much schadenfreude as might be expected because it is pretty clear that this issue has been used by certain people in order to take down Horner. I suspect those people are just as unpleasant as he is.


 
Posted : 01/03/2024 12:15 pm
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From a purely selfish point of view, a Red Bull team in turmoil can only be a good thing for the season.


 
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