[Closed] Football- WHO CARES?

you've no interest in football but you support Germany?

you're weird

I "feel" Germany would be a better team to back.

(Doesn't mean I'd support them).

This thread has been done before and better.

I just hope 'we' go out bloody early rather than painful boring bollocks allover again.

hang a massive German flag on the front of your house then.

I care. Lots. And?

Misserable bastards.

I'm not a football fan, but I'll still watch and support the national team.

I couldn't care less about the over-paid, self-obsessed, namby pamby so-called footballers. I hope they go out quickly and the commentators stop going on about 1966.
Oh well, lets get ready for the excuses for why they crashed and burned.
Too hot, too cold, bad-hair day??????

I care, but not enough to start a thread.

Misserable bastards.

There's nothing miserable about not being a football fan, or avoiding the world cup. I hate football and always have. I won't be watching the international tournaments of any other sports I don't like either.

The attitude towards football baffles me. If you say you don't like F1, the Six Nations or even the Olympics, people just accept it. They can fathom the concept that you could just happen to dislike it. But saying you wont be watching the football world cup seems to be met with levels of incredulity more often reserved for those found eating their own arm.

What's more bizarre, I know many people who frequently claim to [i]hate[/i] football, yet of them all I can name only [i]one[/i] person who won't be sat watching the England games, drawn helplessly to it because everyone else is.

If it's England V Germany in the World Cup Final, I'll be out in the Peak on my bike enjoying the empty trails. Because I like bikes more than football. What a misery I am.

I care - I'm also a big supporter of F1 - and many other sports.

Just because we haven't won the world cup in decades doesn't mean we don't produce world class players and teams.

I care, but not enough to start a thread.

Who brought us...
"What text for a hi viz jacket?"

hang a massive German flag on the front of your house then.

How many football fans support the domestic team closest to where they come from?

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My point is, its a game right? SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO HEAR MINUTE BY MINUTE UPDATES AND THOSE ****ING STUPID FLAGS ON CARS?

in some whys i'd like england to lose in the last minute of the final, purely to heap crushing disappointment on the lives of xenophobic retarded fans. like my neighbours with their plastic auto accoutrements. i know it would upset lots of other people too, but they have the necessary cerebral activity to move on from the upset and not develop further disorders. harsh maybe.

I care about the football. I think F1 is the dullest crock of sh1te around.

Oh, and you would be unpatriotic if you 'feel' Germany would be the better team to support if you were English, not German. Patriotism is a feeling of loyalty to your nation, which you wouldn't be displaying here. I've not checked a dictionary on this but it seems pretty straight forward to me, Fritz 😀

I'll stick to sports where I don't have to fear violence from fans or the homophobia.

yeah hora, those spanish F1 fans are a delight......

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/millions-launch-pathetic-bid-to-feign-interest-in-football-201006032789/
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Sport is brilliant! As is the Queen!

jackthedog - Member

There's nothing miserable about not being a football fan,

I didn't say there was. Whether they like football or not, the majority of the posts on this thread come across as misserable.

eg:

hora - Member
I just hope 'we' go out bloody early rather than painful boring bollocks allover again.

I don't see many football fans hoping England get knocked out of the Rugby WC early so they don't have to watch it or hear about it on the news. Or England and Wales to lose the ashes. Or..........

I think some people get wound up too easily. Like I said, I'm not a football fan but I certainly don't want the National team to do badly just because it bores me. I'd say that's a good indication of misery myself.

Rugby? We are going on for 50yrs since we last won a World cup at footy.

Why do some people call you unpatriotic because you feel Germany would be a better team to support?

because it's unpatriotic? (unless you're German)

I care - true I don't follow footy domestically, but I get excited about the world cup. and the olympics, and the RWC, and the six nations. Love it all.

I really don't get whingy posts like this - if you hate it that much, get on your bike and ride it somewhere where there are not tellys (it might even be deserted, save for other unhappy, scowling football hating members of STW, but you'll probably get along fine)

Come on Engerland!!!!

I've just had a horrible thought. What if someone up there decides to punish me and make my hora junior gifted and mad about football. Not truly but just enough that I have support him at lower 1st division clubs. Truly that is Dante's seventh level of hell 😕

jimbobrighton - fake!

I don't see many football fans hoping England get knocked out of the Rugby WC early so they don't have to watch it or hear about it on the news. Or England and Wales to lose the ashes.

Good point, you're right.

The difference is I don't feel the ashes/six nations/even wimbledon or any other sport is rammed down the nation's collective throat in quite the same unstoppable, aggressive way. The world cup is truly inescapable, dominating the news channels, the papers, conversation, restaurants, pubs, supermarkets - it's everywhere you look. That's the problem for those of us who don't like football. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction - the more none-fans have something forced on them, the more they will object.

So yes, I agree it is miserable to wish disappointment on the nation. But I can totally see why people do it. For some of us, the quicker it's over with, the better.

The world cup is a bit like christmas. It sends the nation into a bizarre trance for a short while, and it's all anyone can talk about and then it's gone. The special offers, the newspaper pull outs, the novelty burgers, the flags - all gone. Hidden away in the loft until next time, just like the tinsel and the baubles.

Oh I am patriotic.

Ellen MacArthur, Damon Hill, Hamilton.

The world cup is a bit like christmas. It sends the nation into a bizarre trance for a short while, and it's all anyone can talk about and then it's gone. The special offers, the newspaper pull outs, the novelty burgers, the flags - all gone. Hidden away in the loft until next time, just like the tinsel and the baubles.

And the problem with that is...?

At least football players are real and not a work of fiction. That bit IS true.

And the problem with that is...?

No problem. I don't understand it, but there's no problem. Just trying to offer an insight into why some folk might seem so vocally opposed to the WC. Enjoy your football, I'll enjoy the empty trails 🙂

And don't forget, everytime you're riding along on your bike and someone nearly kills you because they:
a) are shit at driving
b) hate cyclists
or
c) Really couldn't care less one way of the other.....

....they'll be football supporters. It's a well known correlation.

Up until the 2006 WC I could honestly say I'd watched at least part (and in most cases all 90 mins) of every England game since being a kid in the early 80's. And then I got fed up with the way money was killing the game and creating the greed culture etc. Since then I've not really been bothered about us. I don't expect us to win this WC and I won't give a monkey if we go out. The players have long since lost touch with the real world and I just can't be ar5sed anymore.

Ban football and turn all football stadia into velodromes I say 🙂

Football is Englands national sport, if you don't like it get over it, move on, don't watch it, don't begrudge those that do like it. Go bog snorkelling or something instead.

Higgo - Member
This thread has been done before and better.

I agree. There is something sooooo 2nd rate about Hora's posts.

i don't like football but i do like my country. If my country's in a competition no matter what it is then i support them. When we get knocked out, (inevitably) then i wont give a damn

Miserable isn't not being interested, miserable is feeling the need to tell everyone.
Poor troll.

Miserable isn't not being interested, miserable is feeling the need to tell everyone.
Poor troll.

🙄 I don't like the 24/7 hysteria and over-building of hope and expectation.

So come on then. Who is your 'alternative' team choice for the cup? We all know England fans have a secret default team who they actually fancy to win/look good on the pitch etc..

We have TWO world champions on the grid in F1. NOT won **** all in football

Thats a crap comparison hardly anyone does f1 millions play football worldwide I bet it's harder to shine at football because of the competition .

where does the nickname "wendyball" come from?

And how is babby formed?

Love football but I have no particular affiliation to any team. Yesterday my girlfriend dragged me off to Milan to get a suit for my mates wedding but as she shopped I went on a tour of the San Siro there were about 100 people an hour, men woman and children from all over the world. Says it all about a shared passion.
Never got the suit.

Thats a crap comparison hardly anyone does f1 millions play football worldwide I bet it's harder to shine at football because of the competition .

You don't just walk into a F1 seat. You go through the karting scene (money can help here but talent is needed to win).

Even if you are a champion in Karts doesn't mean you will get a seat in single seaters (many many formula there).

In football, true there is competition however Scouts are out spotting etc.

One requires talent, the other requires many more things along with enormous talent.

True there are comical drivers who lasted a handful of races who got their seat by money on the back of some talent and connections.

I am a football fan, but I don't give a hoot about the national team.

Club vs Country? Club every time for me
MOT

markfu - Member

Football is Englands national sport, if you don't like it get over it

cricket

hora, as you're probably aware, you have no **** idea what you're talking about.

pro footballers often made huge sacrifices as kids, and very few actually make it to the top.

it takes a lot of skill, determination, and unlike F1, to make it you don't need to have wealthy parents or be able to bring money in through sponsors. compare and contrast the price of a cart to the price of footy boots? by its very nature motor racing is exclusive

my neighbours lad has potential as a professional footballer. To say you don't need to be wealthy is not quite right, they are doing a lot of miles to get him trials all over the country, their fuel expenditure alone is incredible. Second mortgage, anyone?

my neighbours lad has potential as a professional footballer. To say you don't need to be wealthy is not quite right, they are doing a lot of miles to get him trials all over the country, their fuel expenditure alone is incredible. Second mortgage, anyone?

Kart races aren't held in your own town but national. As well buying a kart you need to transport it, service and fuel it.
Then there are the football boots. Karting you need the footwear, regulation helmet and overalls... plus the kids are growing all the time...

Plus, if hes that talented why does he have to travel the country going to various trials? If hes that good why has no one taken him on an apprenticeship yet ?!!!

hora, as you're probably aware, you have no **** idea what you're talking about.

Kimi Räikkönen:-
"His father, Matti, drove heavy road machinery in Espoo, near Helsinki, while his mother, Paula, worked as a clerk."

Hamiltons dad was loaded? He had to work two jobs and sleep in his car during the karting season.

Mika Häkkinen:-
Mika Häkkinen was born to Harri, a shortwave radio operator and part-time taxi driver, and Aila Häkkinen, who worked as a secretary.

Oh iDave you are a wally 🙄 😆

hora, currently he's 17, and training/playingwith Plymouth and Yeovil. We're near Exeter. I'm not involved enough (or interested in football enough) to know where he is with apprenticeships etc.

I love the world cup. It's a bloody good excuse to meet up with the old man and get pissed up. 😀

hora, currently he's 17, and training/playingwith Plymouth and Yeovil. We're near Exeter. I'm not involved enough (or interested in football enough) to know where he is with apprenticeships etc.

All I know is his parents are prepared to get very skint from supporting him

Each to their own in my opinion.

Barking on about it being over exposed etc is pointless, as the majority of the country do give a shit and want to hear whats going on. If we where to only watch the sport that England does best at Darts would be on 24/7.

To the OP do you know the meaning of "unpatriotic" ???

Also regardless of sport Raw talent will get you to the top, Money makes it a damn sight easier.

Also I can't stand a few sports but i'd always rather see a Brit at the top.

The only football match I've ever watched all the way through was when Engerland was almost doing quite well last world cup. It has to be said it was an amazing atmosphere in the pub that day. Until they did the usual English losing thing.

One requires talent, the other requires many more things along with enormous talent.

hora, like i said you have no idea

a competitive kart is about £2.5k

if Hamilton had been a footballer would his have have had to take two jobs, or am i right that football is a less exclusive club?

how much sponsorship did Rooney have to [i]bring[/i] to Everton to get a place in the youth academy?

I've worked with young guys at the highest level in many sports, including 6 signed to an F1 team, i know what sacrifices are necessary, what funds are necessary and i also know that you don't know.

although points for using the term 'wally'

I've worked with young guys in many sports, including 6 signed to an F1 team

pro footballers often made huge sacrifices as kids, and very few actually make it to the top.
it takes a lot of skill, determination, and unlike F1, to make it you don't need to have wealthy parents or be able to bring money in through sponsors

Abit of contradiction going on in that last statement considering 'your in the know'.

although points for using the term 'wally'

Must go now, time for my early evening ride 8)

keep up hora

wealthy parents [b]or[/b] be able to bring money in through sponsors

that was an [b]or[/b] not an [b]and[/b]

work that i did was used by Truli, Alonso and Kovalainen and it wasn't washing their undies

What does my head in is people who are obviously sportingly untalented (HORA) who try to bring sports down to the lowest level i.e. kicking a bag of wind round a field! Hora you can do that with any sport e.g. F1 Loads of men driving souped up go carts around a big car park dead fats for hours on end! Sound appealing now eh?
If you don't like something why start a discussion on the topic? It does not mean that by doing this you have a personality and friends, it means you are a dullard without friends.
Its a forum about bikes, we all like riding bicycles round woods or fields/moors/bridleways (some worse than others) and i am SURE that people on "wendyball" (what a spazzy nick name for a sport followed by millions across the world) forums think of us as weirdos.
As for it being rammed down your throat (never complained before about that i bet 😉 ) its not - its the national sport, followed by the majority of the country (%) so therefore gets a fair representation on mainstream tv. Get over it AND yourself and either play with your kid, speak to your missues, or ride your bike (badly)

Football is the sport of the people,It's great and the viewing figures alone for the W C F show just how popular its is. 🙂

F1............Bridgwater carnval without the entertainment... 🙁

racing_ralph you are right, I do need to improve my climbing ability. I'll do that and then teach you how to ride quicker on technical trails?

F1 is great but World Cup football is gooderer.
I likes both.
Come on Engerland!

..Bridgwater carnval without the entertainment

That is not entertainment, watching a load of biffers on a hay cart and the support crew shuffling behind with their overalls and past years badges on?

As for it being rammed down your throat (never complained before about that i bet ) its not - its the national sport, followed by the majority of the country (%) so therefore gets a fair representation on mainstream tv. Get over it AND yourself and either play with your kid, speak to your missues, or ride your bike (badly)

Although I think this was generally aimed in Hora's direction, I think it was me who brought up the 'rammed down the throat' subject. I didn't know it would open the way for me to (I assume derogatorily) be called homosexual;

(never complained before about that i bet)

to be told that I need to get over myself;

Get over it AND yourself

and that my bike skills are poor:

or ride your bike (badly)

That's some pretty aggressive and presumptuous insult throwing towards a person you've never met, who did nothing more than dare to offer, in an adult and considered fashion, an alternative viewpoint to the general consensus.

Reading that, it's no wonder the local football clubs have to spend a fortune paying for mounted police to prevent their fans brawling in the street.

[b]Hora earlier, amusingly[/b]
I'll stick to sports where I don't have to fear violence from fans or the homophobia.

Some people like stuff that other people don't. That's what we all need to get over. Not really worth getting upset about it either way.

Jackthedog - aimed at hora but if you feel that its aimed at you hey ho!

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hora - Member

racing_ralph you are right, I do need to improve my climbing ability. I'll do that and then teach you how to ride quicker on technical trails?

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would involve you being on a bike and not pushing tho! You know the offer of a peak ride is always there fellow baby buddy, early doors on saturday - 6 hours or so from hope

And jtd - i put HORA in capitals in the first line so its blatantly aimed at him!
You may be none of the things in my post fair play, but you are obviously worried what people think about you and a touch insecure dude!

[i]Hora earlier, amusingly
I'll stick to sports where I don't have to fear violence from fans or the homophobia.[/i]

Watch, what in my opinion is among the most skilled game in the world & you won't have any violence from fans!

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It's the players youv'e gotta watch!

The difference is I don't feel the ashes/six nations/even wimbledon or any other sport is rammed down the nation's collective throat in quite the same unstoppable, aggressive way. The world cup is truly inescapable

Exactly why I despise the sport.

I know the footy wc is on. I don't need all the fans driving round and round in their cars hooting horns to remind me that there's a match on. Nor do I need/want them driving round and round hooting horns after the match to remind me that a team won (most likely after penalties - may as well just skip the game imho and kick 5 balls at the goalie).

If I drove round and round hooting my horn for the rugby wc final, I'd probably be arrested for breach of the peace.

Gonna be 'mare this summer... Big Brother on one channel, footy on another few channels.

edit: and yes I will do my best to totally ignore every match and score, and will go for a ride on the bike.

Can I come with you then Andy, I'm brassed of the with the whole lot already.
Although I will watch football if I can't get to sleep. Never fails.

And jtd - i put HORA in capitals in the first line so its blatantly aimed at him!

The first paragraph was of course clearly aimed at Hora. The second paragraph focussed on the point raised by me, as far as the post read. Hence I brought it up. No insecurity, just a lack of clarity, s'all.

racing_ralph, reading your posts really does feel like chewing gum for my eyes.

hora - Member

racing_ralph, reading your posts really does feel like chewing gum for my eyes.

quality comeback! Saturday ride? yay or nay?

I know the footy wc is on. I don't need all the fans driving round and round in their cars hooting horns to remind me that there's a match on. Nor do I need/want them driving round and round hooting horns after the match to remind me that a team won (most likely after penalties - may as well just skip the game imho and kick 5 balls at the goalie).

Re: esselgruntfuttock's piccy - is it boxing on ice?

I'm not interested particularly (I may see a few games if friends are watching) and none of it bothers me at all. [i]Then[/i] I had the tellybox on for an evening. Almost all the advertising was world cup themed, and all of it suggests that the entire nation is united together, striving in a heroic multicultural way towards a treasured and self-evidently worthy goal which is almost within reach.

That doesn't actually make me want to buy lager/sofas/new tellyboxes/anything else, but it does give me the strong sense that I am some sort of peculiar alien in my country. Then I go back outside, and there is strong evidence that while a lot of people do get very excited about the football the country has not in fact fallen into a collective hysteria, it's just that there's an important sporting event going on. Which is fine. 🙂

Almost all the advertising was world cup themed, and all of it suggests that the entire nation is united together, striving in a heroic multicultural way towards a treasured and self-evidently worthy goal which is almost within reach.

That doesn't actually make me want to buy lager/sofas/new tellyboxes/anything else, but it does give me the strong sense that I am some sort of peculiar alien in my country.

Very little TV advertising reflects the reality of my daily life, world cup or not.
I try no to let it upset me.

esselgruntfuttock - Member

Watch, what in my opinion is among the most skilled game in the world & you won't have any violence from fans!

Try a google search for hockey riot, and you will see there have been plenty.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much. 😉 Sometimes iconoclasts invest as much as disciples (I'm sure there was another thread yesterday where the protagonist seemed to have expansive knowledge of the beautiful game).

or...

Who cares about 'Who cares about football threads'? Football is the safety net of conversation for blokes.

Actually, the bit where they move a ball about through the other team is brilliant. Almost everything else is rubbish.

I am amused at 'wendyball'.

That's some pretty aggressive and presumptuous insult throwing towards a person you've never met

We are going on for 50yrs since we last won a World cup at footy.

But if success was the only criteria for caring about a sport how many of us would still give a shit about our bikes?

Football's fine. It's like a soap opera for men with some random plot elements thrown in because *some* of it is actually real.

i hope we stay in it for ages because it means i can go out without being surrounded by football loving morons. all my clothes have to last 4 years as its the only time i will venture into clothes shops.

Do you do your shopping on Friday and Saturday nights? 😉

i didnt think it through to be honest. 😕 ive just read back through some of the other posts and to be honest i wish id not gotten involved. 🙄 i just wanted to make a point that im really not interested. 😀