[Closed] Football- WHO CARES?

hora, currently he's 17, and training/playingwith Plymouth and Yeovil. We're near Exeter. I'm not involved enough (or interested in football enough) to know where he is with apprenticeships etc.

I love the world cup. It's a bloody good excuse to meet up with the old man and get pissed up. 😀

hora, currently he's 17, and training/playingwith Plymouth and Yeovil. We're near Exeter. I'm not involved enough (or interested in football enough) to know where he is with apprenticeships etc.

All I know is his parents are prepared to get very skint from supporting him

Each to their own in my opinion.

Barking on about it being over exposed etc is pointless, as the majority of the country do give a shit and want to hear whats going on. If we where to only watch the sport that England does best at Darts would be on 24/7.

To the OP do you know the meaning of "unpatriotic" ???

Also regardless of sport Raw talent will get you to the top, Money makes it a damn sight easier.

Also I can't stand a few sports but i'd always rather see a Brit at the top.

The only football match I've ever watched all the way through was when Engerland was almost doing quite well last world cup. It has to be said it was an amazing atmosphere in the pub that day. Until they did the usual English losing thing.

One requires talent, the other requires many more things along with enormous talent.

hora, like i said you have no idea

a competitive kart is about £2.5k

if Hamilton had been a footballer would his have have had to take two jobs, or am i right that football is a less exclusive club?

how much sponsorship did Rooney have to [i]bring[/i] to Everton to get a place in the youth academy?

I've worked with young guys at the highest level in many sports, including 6 signed to an F1 team, i know what sacrifices are necessary, what funds are necessary and i also know that you don't know.

although points for using the term 'wally'

I've worked with young guys in many sports, including 6 signed to an F1 team

pro footballers often made huge sacrifices as kids, and very few actually make it to the top.
it takes a lot of skill, determination, and unlike F1, to make it you don't need to have wealthy parents or be able to bring money in through sponsors

Abit of contradiction going on in that last statement considering 'your in the know'.

although points for using the term 'wally'

Must go now, time for my early evening ride 8)

keep up hora

wealthy parents [b]or[/b] be able to bring money in through sponsors

that was an [b]or[/b] not an [b]and[/b]

work that i did was used by Truli, Alonso and Kovalainen and it wasn't washing their undies

What does my head in is people who are obviously sportingly untalented (HORA) who try to bring sports down to the lowest level i.e. kicking a bag of wind round a field! Hora you can do that with any sport e.g. F1 Loads of men driving souped up go carts around a big car park dead fats for hours on end! Sound appealing now eh?
If you don't like something why start a discussion on the topic? It does not mean that by doing this you have a personality and friends, it means you are a dullard without friends.
Its a forum about bikes, we all like riding bicycles round woods or fields/moors/bridleways (some worse than others) and i am SURE that people on "wendyball" (what a spazzy nick name for a sport followed by millions across the world) forums think of us as weirdos.
As for it being rammed down your throat (never complained before about that i bet 😉 ) its not - its the national sport, followed by the majority of the country (%) so therefore gets a fair representation on mainstream tv. Get over it AND yourself and either play with your kid, speak to your missues, or ride your bike (badly)

Football is the sport of the people,It's great and the viewing figures alone for the W C F show just how popular its is. 🙂

F1............Bridgwater carnval without the entertainment... 🙁

racing_ralph you are right, I do need to improve my climbing ability. I'll do that and then teach you how to ride quicker on technical trails?

F1 is great but World Cup football is gooderer.
I likes both.
Come on Engerland!

..Bridgwater carnval without the entertainment

That is not entertainment, watching a load of biffers on a hay cart and the support crew shuffling behind with their overalls and past years badges on?

As for it being rammed down your throat (never complained before about that i bet ) its not - its the national sport, followed by the majority of the country (%) so therefore gets a fair representation on mainstream tv. Get over it AND yourself and either play with your kid, speak to your missues, or ride your bike (badly)

Although I think this was generally aimed in Hora's direction, I think it was me who brought up the 'rammed down the throat' subject. I didn't know it would open the way for me to (I assume derogatorily) be called homosexual;

(never complained before about that i bet)

to be told that I need to get over myself;

Get over it AND yourself

and that my bike skills are poor:

or ride your bike (badly)

That's some pretty aggressive and presumptuous insult throwing towards a person you've never met, who did nothing more than dare to offer, in an adult and considered fashion, an alternative viewpoint to the general consensus.

Reading that, it's no wonder the local football clubs have to spend a fortune paying for mounted police to prevent their fans brawling in the street.

[b]Hora earlier, amusingly[/b]
I'll stick to sports where I don't have to fear violence from fans or the homophobia.

Some people like stuff that other people don't. That's what we all need to get over. Not really worth getting upset about it either way.

Jackthedog - aimed at hora but if you feel that its aimed at you hey ho!

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racing_ralph you are right, I do need to improve my climbing ability. I'll do that and then teach you how to ride quicker on technical trails?

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would involve you being on a bike and not pushing tho! You know the offer of a peak ride is always there fellow baby buddy, early doors on saturday - 6 hours or so from hope

And jtd - i put HORA in capitals in the first line so its blatantly aimed at him!
You may be none of the things in my post fair play, but you are obviously worried what people think about you and a touch insecure dude!

[i]Hora earlier, amusingly
I'll stick to sports where I don't have to fear violence from fans or the homophobia.[/i]

Watch, what in my opinion is among the most skilled game in the world & you won't have any violence from fans!

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It's the players youv'e gotta watch!

The difference is I don't feel the ashes/six nations/even wimbledon or any other sport is rammed down the nation's collective throat in quite the same unstoppable, aggressive way. The world cup is truly inescapable

Exactly why I despise the sport.

I know the footy wc is on. I don't need all the fans driving round and round in their cars hooting horns to remind me that there's a match on. Nor do I need/want them driving round and round hooting horns after the match to remind me that a team won (most likely after penalties - may as well just skip the game imho and kick 5 balls at the goalie).

If I drove round and round hooting my horn for the rugby wc final, I'd probably be arrested for breach of the peace.

Gonna be 'mare this summer... Big Brother on one channel, footy on another few channels.

edit: and yes I will do my best to totally ignore every match and score, and will go for a ride on the bike.

Can I come with you then Andy, I'm brassed of the with the whole lot already.
Although I will watch football if I can't get to sleep. Never fails.

And jtd - i put HORA in capitals in the first line so its blatantly aimed at him!

The first paragraph was of course clearly aimed at Hora. The second paragraph focussed on the point raised by me, as far as the post read. Hence I brought it up. No insecurity, just a lack of clarity, s'all.

racing_ralph, reading your posts really does feel like chewing gum for my eyes.

hora - Member

racing_ralph, reading your posts really does feel like chewing gum for my eyes.

quality comeback! Saturday ride? yay or nay?

I know the footy wc is on. I don't need all the fans driving round and round in their cars hooting horns to remind me that there's a match on. Nor do I need/want them driving round and round hooting horns after the match to remind me that a team won (most likely after penalties - may as well just skip the game imho and kick 5 balls at the goalie).

Re: esselgruntfuttock's piccy - is it boxing on ice?

I'm not interested particularly (I may see a few games if friends are watching) and none of it bothers me at all. [i]Then[/i] I had the tellybox on for an evening. Almost all the advertising was world cup themed, and all of it suggests that the entire nation is united together, striving in a heroic multicultural way towards a treasured and self-evidently worthy goal which is almost within reach.

That doesn't actually make me want to buy lager/sofas/new tellyboxes/anything else, but it does give me the strong sense that I am some sort of peculiar alien in my country. Then I go back outside, and there is strong evidence that while a lot of people do get very excited about the football the country has not in fact fallen into a collective hysteria, it's just that there's an important sporting event going on. Which is fine. 🙂

Almost all the advertising was world cup themed, and all of it suggests that the entire nation is united together, striving in a heroic multicultural way towards a treasured and self-evidently worthy goal which is almost within reach.

That doesn't actually make me want to buy lager/sofas/new tellyboxes/anything else, but it does give me the strong sense that I am some sort of peculiar alien in my country.

Very little TV advertising reflects the reality of my daily life, world cup or not.
I try no to let it upset me.

esselgruntfuttock - Member

Watch, what in my opinion is among the most skilled game in the world & you won't have any violence from fans!

Try a google search for hockey riot, and you will see there have been plenty.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much. 😉 Sometimes iconoclasts invest as much as disciples (I'm sure there was another thread yesterday where the protagonist seemed to have expansive knowledge of the beautiful game).

or...

Who cares about 'Who cares about football threads'? Football is the safety net of conversation for blokes.

Actually, the bit where they move a ball about through the other team is brilliant. Almost everything else is rubbish.

I am amused at 'wendyball'.

That's some pretty aggressive and presumptuous insult throwing towards a person you've never met

We are going on for 50yrs since we last won a World cup at footy.

But if success was the only criteria for caring about a sport how many of us would still give a shit about our bikes?

Football's fine. It's like a soap opera for men with some random plot elements thrown in because *some* of it is actually real.

i hope we stay in it for ages because it means i can go out without being surrounded by football loving morons. all my clothes have to last 4 years as its the only time i will venture into clothes shops.

Do you do your shopping on Friday and Saturday nights? 😉

i didnt think it through to be honest. 😕 ive just read back through some of the other posts and to be honest i wish id not gotten involved. 🙄 i just wanted to make a point that im really not interested. 😀

Hey toppers, are all football lovers morons?
Or just the ones that surround you?

is it [i](slebrity)[/i] boxing on ice?

hairychested, please tell me you're a programme director at ITV

Lots of these comments just come across as pure chav/oik/other working class stereotype bashing.

Football is a huge part of the (English)national identity, one of the few things that our post modern society can cling to without guilt or neccessary self reflection. Of course, sporting ritual as it may happen in other cultures of the world will be looked upon with wonder and facsination by the chattering classes but put those same values and social actions into the context of the English football fans and it spawns vilification, condemnation and even anti Anglo racism from some quarters.

If you don't like it or as is quite obvious from some comments, you just don't understand it, then fine, its not a national requirement that everyone does. I just don't understand what gain might come from public displays of ignorance on the subject.

[i]Watch, what in my opinion is among the most skilled game in the world & you won't have any violence from fans![/i]

Actually your'e right. I remember a game where a fan whacked a player who was in the penalty box & the player climbed over the plexiglass & whacked him back!
Twas a bit Cantona-ish.

some are. some aren't. then again the same can be said for cyclists. to be honest i was being flippant. if its what you like the fair enough. its not for me to say either way. most of my mates aren't interested in it either. it does however annoy me the massive police pressence that is necessary every time my local football team play at home. all to prevent those that are morons from beating the crap out of each other.

it does however annoy me the massive police pressence that is necessary every time my local football team play at home. all to prevent those that are morons from beating the crap out of each other.

There was 100's of coppers at the Dalby Wc and Pickering street race was that to keep us mtb folk from kicking the crap out of roadie's 😉

probably. they deserve it though. stupid skinny wheels.

it does however annoy me the massive police pressence that is necessary every time my local football team play at home. all to prevent those that are morons from beating the crap out of each other.

Football pays a huge bill for it's own policing, unlike some other mass events. I think you're on a very sticky wicket if you're trying to portray football as negative to the economy.

where they on horses with riot gear on? thats what we get every other saturday round here.

dude who mentioned the economy?! it is not very pleasant experience is all im saying. i dont deny the football clubs pay for it and that football is a perfectly legitimate and acceptable form of entertainment. so called football fans kicking off causing the necessity for riot police all over the town centre on match day does not make for a relaxing shopping trip is all. despite my previous ill advised tongue in cheek comment which i later retracted i dont have anything against foootball or the sensible fans that support it, i just get annoyed by the need for such massive preventative measure needed for the few. 😀