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There's a chippy near work which has just reopened under new management. Bought a bag of chips at lunch.

Two hours later, I suddenly had a searing pain in my gut, felt like I'd been stabbed. Went to the loo and got rid of a batch of rusty water. Since then, it's been happening every half an hour or so, I've been about a dozen times.

Do we think this sounds like food poisoning? Is that even possible from something as innocuous as a bag of chips? Or just a coincidence and it's something else?

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Posted : 16/07/2015 7:11 pm
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Sounds like cat aids


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:13 pm
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If it's food poisoning you'll feel like that for at least two weeks, puke and poo at the same time, lose a stone in weight and won't be able to move from your bed*

Otherwise it's just a dodgy stomach.

(*from experience!)


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:14 pm
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Sounds like norovirus.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:14 pm
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Doubtful from chips


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:16 pm
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I suddenly had a searing pain in my gut, felt like I'd been stabbed

That's what happens when scraps escalate.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:17 pm
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Deffo not from chips.

Not unless sir/madame has had their hands down the back of their knickers before handing you the fork or your change, of course.

Bon appetite.
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Posted : 16/07/2015 7:19 pm
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Not unless sir/madame has had their hands down the back of their knickers before handing you the fork or your change, of course.

Scraps.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:20 pm
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Well, that's appetising.

I can't afford to lose a stone, I've not got many to start with.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:21 pm
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I agree with Drac

Funnily enough my last meal before shitting water for three days was a chippy.

The plus side the thought of chips is bo longer so enticing!


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:22 pm
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Overused low grade cooking oil, too high frying temperature and starchy potatoes = acrylamide and glycidamide formation, both of which can affect smooth muscle control, usually a chronic effect rather than acute but maybe it's one visit too many to a dodgy chippy!


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:25 pm
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What Drac & joshvegas said ^^

Apparently it's quite common to pick up Norovirus from an infected foodworker who handles food in restaurants, ships, etc.

Mrs busydog and I both got it about 4-5 hours after a dinner out and it started within an hour of each other. We both had something completely different menu-wise, so not likely food poisoning. Came on really suddenly and resulted in a very less-than-pleasant 24 hours.

She works with several doctors and they were all of the same opinion that, from the symptoms and onset it sounded like Norovirus.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 7:54 pm
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Oh good.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 8:32 pm
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Actually, that's a point. Am I likely to give it to my wife?

Erm, so to speak.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 8:33 pm
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From what mrs busydog's doctor associates told her, it is very easily and quickly spread and can be hard to contain, i.e. the problem aboard cruise ships is intensified due to the close proximity of so many people. Here in the US, it is the most common form of gastroenteritis and affects an estimated 19 million annually.
Edit: Most common method of transmission is from food handlers


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 8:39 pm
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Bugger.

Cheers.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 8:52 pm
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2hr is too short for noro - blame whoever made your tea last night


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 8:53 pm
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So... I've caught it off myself?


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 8:56 pm
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seems that way - dutty bastard 😉


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:01 pm
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Actually, that's a point. Am I likely to give it to my wife?

Contrary to above why it's easy to spread it's easy to stop too. Good hand hygiene is the answer and no body fluid contact.

2hr is too short for noro - blame whoever made your tea last night

Who's to say it was the chips. It could have been picked up anytime during the day.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:03 pm
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Who's to say it was the chips
coogles asked, then somebody offered noro. I'm just stopping him from firebombing the chippy on a false association

who's to say it's noro and not cat aids or dysentery or early ebola ? - it's all speculation innit.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:13 pm
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Actually, doesn't Noro affect both ends?


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:15 pm
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often, yes, but splats is pretty much inevitable while vomiting a bit less so


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:18 pm
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As Drac says, hygiene is the about the biggest single factor in containment.

I think scaredypants is right about the timeline--when we had it, I remember doing some reading afterwards that symptoms most normally appear anywhere from 12-48 hours after exposure, so it's likely we picked it up somewhere a day or two before and the symptoms just coincidently started a few hours after the restaurant dinner.

All I know is it hit hard and fast and was the worst stomach/intestinal bug I have ever had, but fortunately only lasted a couple of days.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:21 pm
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It could have just been some other random dirt that got in, like a manky bit of something behind the cooker they just re-positioned, then served your food.

It reminds me of when my favorite curryhouse closed down, I popped in on the last day and for my years of loyal custom was given a case of the raging Trotskys.

Probably caused by them stripping the kitchen on the last day or something :/

Not a good way to end our relationship!

EDIT - timescale 😉


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:23 pm
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I suddenly had a searing pain in my gut, felt like I'd been stabbed
That's what happens when scraps escalate.

Nice 😀


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:26 pm
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Hah, good work, I missed that.


 
Posted : 16/07/2015 9:33 pm
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Day two in the Big Shitter hoose.

Cougar is in the bathroom. The rest of the housemates are in the bedroom. The forum is sitting laughing.

Had a fairly uneventful night until about 6am where I woke up in agony. Ran to the trap and my arse did a passable impression of a fire hose. Aside from leaving the bog like the one in Trainspotting, I noticed an amount of undigested food in there (those ****ing chips again). That's not good, surely?

Today has been a repeat of yesterday, every 30-60 minutes I get a stabbing pain in my guts then five minutes later I'm getting rid of a load of liquishit. Keeping my fluid levels up and really uninterested in food.

Trying to decide next steps. Would Immodium / Pepto-Bismol be a good move, or would that just compound the problem? I'm thinking, if my body needs to get rid of something I should probably let it?

At what point do I give in and ring the doctor? Is there anything they can do realistically, or will I just be told to keep doing what I'm doing?


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 11:51 am
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We did this recently on here and I got flamed for advising the sufferer to stop suffering and go and demand a course of antibiotics from the Doc. Others said he should man up and carry on suffering and potentially becoming dehydrated but hey, what do I know? I only travel around Africa several times a year.

Xifaxanta is what you need:

http://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/medicine/24974/SPC/XIFAXANTA+200+mg+Film-coated+Tablets/


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 12:19 pm
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[i]That's not good, surely?[/i]

Your digestive transit's a bit quick for it's own good.

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Posted : 17/07/2015 12:24 pm
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*snort*

Xifaxanta is what you need:

Apparently that's good for "occult blood." 😯


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 12:32 pm
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Don't do the immodium thing, let the body purge the lurgy.

I had the brown water earlier in the year, lasted three days or so.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 12:42 pm
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If it helps and you're determined to sit it out, I'm told the avoidance of dairy products can help to starve the bugs, which sometimes thrive on lactose.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 12:48 pm
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Noted, ta.

What's putting me off seeing the doctor is, to get an appointment you've got ring at 8:30am and if you leave it till 8:31 you're left with walk-ins which will probably involve me sitting there for three hours.

Is that Xifaxanta stuff prescription-only?


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 12:51 pm
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You don't need an appointment - go to the docs, shit your pants in the waiting room - you'll be seen soon enough.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:03 pm
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You've been ill for a few hours and want to go to the docs? Ffs get a grip.

Just sit it out (mostly on the bog) and let it pass. Otherwise you'll just share it with the docs and other patients. Most surgeries try very hard to discourage people with norovirus attending as all it does is spread it. Unless it persists for long enough that dehydration becomes an issue.

Edit:

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Norovirus/Pages/Introduction.aspx

[b]"stay at home – don't go to see your GP because norovirus is contagious and there's nothing your GP can do while you have it"[/b]


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:05 pm
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Posted : 17/07/2015 1:07 pm
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Bovril in hot water - that and some bananas - for salts and glucose. I reckon you'll be right by the morning.

I've once had food poisoning and a few times had random bugs. Food poisoning I felt like crap and vomited for 24 hours as well as rusty water. The bugs usually just pass through me at out into the pan quite rapidly. Neither of which is pleasant but there is a difference!


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:07 pm
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You've been ill for a few hours and want to go to the docs? Ffs get a grip.

Well, I don't [i]want [/i]to, I was just replying to advice on here.

Bovril in hot water

Tricky as a veggie.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:15 pm
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Is that Xifaxanta stuff prescription-only?

Yes but you can buy Lomotil over the counter, which will stop the diarrhoea.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:20 pm
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Just go for a bike ride FFS.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:28 pm
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That could be messy.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:44 pm
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Xifaxanta is what you need:
... but you can buy Lomotil over the counter, which will stop the diarrhoea.

gTi - your advice may be appropriate for someone miles from medical support in a foreign country but, although cougar is in Lancs, he's not officially the 3rd world


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:54 pm
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It's East Lancs, so it's not far off.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 1:56 pm
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in the shit^2 🙁


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 2:02 pm
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I thought full fat Coca-Cola was the thing to help as it kills pretty much everything.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 2:03 pm
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I thought full fat Coca-Cola was the thing to help as it kills pretty much everything.

Coke is good but you need to let it go flat first


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 2:19 pm
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Shake the bottle?


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 2:46 pm
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Shake the bottle?
Stir a teaspoon full of sugar into a glass of Coke and it will go flat.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 2:49 pm
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I had very serious food poisoning just before Christmas, caught from chicken and diagnosed as Campylobachter. I lost a hell of a lot of weight, wasn't throwing up but spent hours on the toilet. Purely because I hydrate lots was the only reason I didn't end up in hospital but one night I almost passed out and I was alone at the time and it was very frightening. Took me weeks to get back to "normal" living but months later I still suffer from after effects from it and thought I was actually allergic to chicken after which is common apparently (the food that gave you the illness).
I wouldn't wish "proper" food poisoning on anyone and sounds like you've picked a bug up and could be gone in a couple of days.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 3:01 pm
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It'll pass, boiled cool water to sip, you don't need anything else. You'll not suffer from a lack of anything in such a short time. I'm always picking up bloody gastro bugs and norovirus (3 times last year). Usually 3 days of epic purging up and feeling like death and thats it done. Wouldn't dream of going to a doctor, what exactly would you expect them to do?


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 3:04 pm
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what exactly would you expect them to do?

That was my point in a nutshell, yes.

At least now I can tell my OH that I'm not going to the doctor because STW told me not to, so that's a win.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 3:06 pm
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Thought it'd passed as I've not been for a couple of hours, but no. Just had a mad dash followed by what sounded like Donald Duck losing his temper.

Also, "moist toilet tissue" FTW.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 3:14 pm
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sudocrem FTW, sho'ly ?


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 6:16 pm
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I lack for a feline applicator.


 
Posted : 17/07/2015 6:24 pm
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Dead yet?

Donald Duck losing his temper

😀


 
Posted : 18/07/2015 6:25 am
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Cougar - Moderator
Thought it'd passed as I've not been for a couple of hours, but no

What ever you do don't think you can sneak a fart.


 
Posted : 18/07/2015 6:41 am
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A bad bout of gastroenteritis can leave you with all kinds of problems so if things don't return to normal, see a GP and ask to be referred to a gastroenterologist.


 
Posted : 18/07/2015 6:44 am
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Bovril in hot water

Sounds more like a symptom than a cure


 
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Just go for a bike ride FFS.

Now I understand why this is called a super flow
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Posted : 18/07/2015 2:02 pm