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I grew up between Leeds & Wakefield, every chip shop sold something called a "fish cake".
It was two slices of potato, with a layer of hish (haddock, usually) in between, dipped in batter & deep fried. A meal in itself.
I now live in Baildon, 5-6 miles north of Bradford, having lived in the curry district since I was 17. Fishcake is as defined above.
Go to Barnsley, less than 10 miles south of Wakefield, and this is known as a "fish scallop" derived no doubt from the simple "scallop", which is a slice of potato, deep fried in batter.
A "fish cake" here is a pathetic little piece of mashed potato, with a hint of cod or salmon, rolled in breadcrumbs. Hardly the substantial, yet cheaper than a fish, item that I've been used to all my life.
Ok, I can accept it from the dingles, but then the other night I was in Halifax and again a "fishcake" was the pathetic mashed potato/breadcrumb thing
Show me [i]your[/i] chippy's idea of a fish cake 🙂
A fishcake is a breaded potato and fish mash patty.
Anything else is a local affectation. Like your northern bread products.
For me a fishcake is the fishmashmixbreadcrumb thing you described.
For me its fish and mash in breadcrumbs as well. but not the horrible thin bland chip shop variety, should be nice and fat with proper birds of fish.
Fishcake is def fish type mush betwix two pieces of potato, deep fried in batter. I live just over't Baildon moor tho.
I grew up between Leeds & Wakefield, every chip shop sold something called a "fish cake".
It was two slices of potato, with a layer of hish (haddock, usually) in between, dipped in batter & deep fried. A meal in itself.
THAT is a fishcake. Proper northern grub. This is what Sheffield fish cakes are like anyway.
Fishcake = mashed potato and fish, in posh restaurants as well as chippies. End of.
Harry ramsden used to sell two types. Yorkshire fishcake - fish between slices of potato and battered. Parsley fishcake, mashed fish, potato and parsley battered. They now only do parsley.
Fishcakes are indeed potato/minced fish/potato battered and deep fried - a way of using up crappy bits of fish that can't be fried and sold as such. In a previous life I used to make them at the chippy I worked at.
Of course everyone has their own opinion of what is the correct way of making them, but that way taste far superior.
Like your northern bread products.
eee by gum lad 'barm cakes' here, 'baps' for you Southerners.
Fish cake is a mixture of mash and white fish, parsley finely chopped and lightly seasoned, pressed in a scone shape then shallowed fried.
That's pronounced scone as in gone, not scone as in cone.
splitters!
Baps you say? We need pics. 😈
B.A.Nana - Membersplitters!
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Fishcake is slice of fish between two slices of spud battered and deep fried, with scraps in breadcake ftw
For crying out loud, here we go:-
Fish cake - a PROPER fish cake is two slices of potato with a slice of fish in between, battered and fried.
Captain Birdseye fish cake - some nasty product invented by the frozen food industry as a way of using fish eyes, lips and nipples. Mashed so that you can tell it's a cods ring piece you're nibbling on.
Bread 'buns' are called bread cakes by the decent folk in this world. Having said that you'd not put a proper fish cake in a bread cake - just not done....
And scone is pronounced the same as stone.
barm cakes come from the wrong side of the hill 😉
"a cake in a tea cake please"
mind you, I used to work over t'wrong side o' t'hill, in Accrington.
some reet weird stuff on sale there
Hollands Pies for starters 😉
pie in a barm 😯
pie in soup
black puddin
sandwich shops called "Sam Witches" 🙄
actually, I'm about 5 minutes drive from Harry Ramsdens.
Never go there, Websters in Baildon or Murgatroyds at Yeadon are much better.
And scone is pronounced the same as stone.
No it's not! 🙄 Therefore invalidating anything else you've said...
Pie soup? Just wrong.
FWIW, a fish cake is definitely a couple of slices of spud with a bit of fish in the middle and deep fried in batter until ready to inflict heart disease.
Having said that, given where you grew up, I probably went in the same chippies
scone/scone - potayto/potahto. whatever. for me, it rhymes with "gone"
and I have mine with butter, then jam, and [i]then[/i] clotted cream
no, not Pie Soup, Pie IN Soup. A bowl of (usually) tomato soup, with a meat (indeterminate) pie plonked in the middle...
but "a pie in a barm" is the one that gets me. I mean, a pie sandwich 😯
anyway, back on topic...
this feeble offering:
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the case rests
mushy peas are optional, but FFS never with mint sauce!
Fish in two slices of potato, sounds more like a northern fishy starch sandwich - yuk!
Crumbed fish, mash, parsley in golden breadcrumbs, homemade tartar sauce and a crisp glass of sauvignon blanc - yum!
The North. It's like the renaissance never happened 🙄
Sorry your picture is your worst defence
wigan kebab pie in a barm cake /bap /roll/bun whatever you wish to call it.
Why is it called a cake when it is not a pudding? Serious Q is there a reason?
I suggest anyone who thinks a fishcake is a pice of fish between two slices of potato (RobJ I'm disappointed in you), has a look for some decent recipes, Rick Stein's included.
It doesn't have to resemble Captain Birdseye's lame offering to pass the criteria you know.
A fishcake...
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TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - that's what I'm talking about!
renaissance? that'll be one of them fancy French dishes then?
the case [s]rests[/s] failsmushy peas are optional, but FFS [s]never[/s] always with mint sauce!
Sorted that one for you john drummer.
What is wrong with you man?
well im only familiar with the normal fishcake, but i'd be well up for trying one of those northern ones.
mint sauce is evil. it's green vinegar FFS
Anyway...last time I went into a chippy up north, there was 'burger and chips' on the menu. So I upgrade and ask for cheeseburger and chips, only to be told 'we don't do cheeseburgers'. So I'm thinking its a bit strange, a pack of processed cheese and they can add 20p to the price. Get my burger and chips...no bap, just a deep fried burger dripping grease all over the chips. Are they all like that oop north?
mint sauce is evil. it's green vinegar FFS
Delicious minty green vinegar though 🙂
a proper fishcake is
potato
fish
potato
dipped in batter and deep fried in dripping.
technically I suppose they were right with the "burger & chips". If they'd said "hamburger & chips" you would have been right to expect it in a bun...
but while they do have them on the menu in many chippies round here, I've never seen anyone actually [i]buy[/i] one...
SCONE.
general public usage = rhymes with gone.
proper scottish usage by people who know what they are talking about =
rhymes with stone.
the place from which it derives its name = rhymes with moon.
I grew up in Barnsley,and wouldn't eat fishcakes,only scallops,delish, nearly as nice as Albert Hirst's pork pie in mushy peas,with salt and vinegar,none of your minty muck.
Ian
a proper fishcake is
potato
fish
potato
dipped in batter and deep fried in dripping. +1
Like all good cakes i.e.
cream
sponge
jam/cream
sponge
i mean how would you feel if you went to buy a victoria sponge and they gave you a cream and sponge mash with a dusting of icing sugar? Bleurgh.
Scallop pronounced scol up not scal up.
Wigan kebab = urban southern myth for all those jessies who think Watford is north.
Out in Silsden what is known as a fishcake in your fancy Leeds chippies was known as a scone. (to rhyme with gone).
bwahah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_Mars_bar
In her book and television series Nigella Bites, Nigella Lawson includes a recipe for a deep-fried Bounty bar
Just had a shite fish thing not the yorkshire fishcake i wanted - unrewarding
I've yet to have a rewarding fishcake. And I've had plenty. It seems your expectations are unfeasibly high!
A fishcake is a breaded potato and fish mash patty.Anything else is a local affectation. Like your northern bread products.
Got to agree with Stoner here folks, I'm afraid to say. There's a number of products which exist only in the North; things which are attempts to brighten up the otherwise wretched, miserable lives of those living in despair and with very little sunlight. The 'Yorkshire Fishcake' is just one such example, as indeed is the World-renowned Yorkshire Pudding.
Trouble with Northerners, is they can't even agree on what is 'correct' between themselves. I think they just like arguing tbh. Helps pass the time on those long, dark* Winter, Spring, Summer and Autumn nights.
*Dark as in depressing, sorrowful and without any glimmer of hope.
Northern men tend to suffer from anxieties and paranoia surrounding their masculinity, hence the need to try to demean people from other areas by calling them 'soft' and 'jessies' and stuff ljke that. An affliction that seems to become more manifest the further north you go, to the extent that some Scottish men will want to fight any other male, lest their manhood fall off altogether. This problem is exacerbated by the fact that Northern women tend to prefer the more affluent, erudite and sophisticated Southern gentleman, who understands foreplay as something other than getting too drunk to stand or even speak, and who is actually more likely to sire offspring which aren't possessed of webbed hands and feet.
What is this foreplay that you talk of?
Oh dear, are you Northern? 🙁
Then you may well be unaware of such joy....