[Closed] "Fat people are fair game for everyone"

Maybe if they lost weight they could chase the abusers and give them a good thumping. Oh wait...

wouldn't they prefer to lose weight and not be fair game?

"60% of adults are overweight and 26% are obese
28% of children are overweight and 15% are obese"

so if 6 out of 10 adults are porkers why aren't they waddling around poking fun at the rest of the population?

Can you persecute a majority?

(not condoning violence or name calling though, and yes I added 'waddling' deliberatly).

f*ck's sake. Over-sensitive porkers giving the rest of us tubby bitches a bad name. Bring the abuse on, I'm too busy eating lard to notice.

The perception that excess weight is largely down to a lack of self-control annoys many overweight people. They say it results in them being associated with laziness and greed, neither of which people like.

yep.

"We're simply not all built to be slim, our genetic make-ups are all different."

Maybe, but it's not an excuse to go seeking bifferdom is it?

keeping a close eye on this....
cos people in glass houses should not throw sticks remember.. 😡

"We're simply not all built to be slim, our genetic make-ups are all different."

to quote Lenny Henry;

"There's never a fat one at the back in Ethiopia saying 'It's me genes, you know'"

f*ck's sake. Over-sensitive porkers giving the rest of us tubby bitches a bad name. Bring the abuse on, I'm too busy eating lard to notice.

LOL! That's the tone for the thread set nicely! 🙂

I'm not fat i am big boned.

i am very big boned............ask your wives and mothers..... 😯

I used to think it was OK to tease them about but now I consider it to be a cheap shot 🙁

I'm fat and any one who don't like it can eat my shorts, unless i get there first 😳

I am fat. I like pies. I like riding bikes so I can eat more pies. If you don't want people taking the p!ss then stop eating pies fatty.

its the excuses that bug me:

"i cant help it its glandular"
or
"its in my genes"

if someone were to say "im a bigger fellow and im totally happy with that, screw you bulimia boy"

then thats fine, its a life choice, like smoking or drinking, or driving, or bumming or mountain biking or whatever.
good luck to you

i dont get people who "cant loose weight"
my dad "cant loose weight" and "i dont have biscuits in the house, snaking makes me fat"

but i buy a loaf of bread whenever i go home, (as he doesnt have bread either, too many carbs) and i promise you, its gone, in a day. through "the odd bit of toast"

i honestly dont know if he knows hes doing it.
makes me quite sad 🙁

simple equation in my mind, food goes in, stored as fat.
less food goes in, food not stored as fat

PUT DOWN.... THE FORK.

easy for me to say with my metabolism set to "disco" permenantly

easy for me to say with my metabolism set to "disco" permenantly

daft lad...........metabolism has **** all to do with us being fat, it is just too much food.

Cowards, whats wrong with picking on snooty one one fan boy real estate analysts?

Is the lifestyle choice of bumming a reference to tramps?

My favourite....its water retention!

Errr no, its chip retention you fat sweaty wobbly bastard.

i'm a skinny wretch of a man, purely in the interests of science i've been subjecting myself to a scientific experiment; for the last 30 years i've been eating pies, and cheese, and chips, some more pies. cake, lots of cake. 2 sugars in my tea, a choclately snack for elevenses, more cake. and pies.

i'm 6' 2", 12stone, and i really don't do much exercise.

it's easy for me to mock 'fatties' but i'm living proof that there's more to all this than simply 'eat less move more'

I'm a fattie - and I don't really mind good-natured piss-taking about it. However, a lot of the smug body-fascism on display on this site doesn't really fall into that category.

I used to be pretty overweight, and got into biking and climbing and lost a load of it - got to the point where I was reasonably trim and fit. I've been pretty ill for a lot of the last year and unable to do half as much exercise and have since put a fair bit of it back on. So yeah ultimately it still comes down to self-control and calories in/out - but I've found it pretty hard when sat around, feeling bored and depressed.

And despite being fat and ill, I'm still fitter than the majority of people I know/work with. People tend to assume that if they aren't overweight then they are fit and healthy, even if they do bugger all exercise.

i ride every single day 12 mile commute, i ride 1 night ride a week, and i ride 2 full day sunday rides a month
i do not eat a lot of high fat food, no pies, crisps, not too much cakes and bums.
i do eat a fair bit of white bread.
i weigh 21 stone.
what am i doing wrong, but i do not want to lose loads of weight either cos i am pretty happt and can ride a fair bit for a big fat bloke
but what am i doing wrong if i wanted to lose weight.

This may come as a bit of a shock, but I agree with ton - as a bit of a porker myself, I can assure everyone that it has nothing to do with my metabolism or genetic make up. No, I'm festively plump because I eat too much stuff that's bad for me, and I don't do enough exercise. No excuses, and to be perfectly frank, I don't give a fiddler's **** what anyone thinks. Peace out, now where did I put them hob-nobs?

Excellent idea as obviously there are no existing laws to protect anyone from being physically attacked at random by crazy people.

Just a thought, but if you want people to be blind to your "differences", it's probably a good first step not to ask for special treatment because of your "differences"?

daft lad...........metabolism has **** all to do with us being fat, it is just too much food.

not sure that's true. I eat shed loads and I'm not fat. I think some people put on weight more than others, so two people eating the same food will gain wait (or not) at different rates, so there must be more to it.

Depends what you class as overweight though, innit?

I'm nigh on 17 stone, 6'4", and have no beer belly in sight, yet the BMI index insists I'm well into the overweight category. 🙄

If I really, really dieted like crazy, I could probably hit 16 stone, but then I;d still be classed as overweight, and decidedly more miserable to boot.

i'm living proof that there's more to all this than simply 'eat less move more'

I'm the same, for my first 5 decades I could unconditionally eat whatever I liked and my weight stayed a constant BMI 21.5. Perhaps if I'd eaten more than necessary I became hyperactive ? In latter years my weight has started to increase 🙁

jon1973 , i was kidding mate, missed one of these 😉

someone on here will probably come up with ' it is nothing to do with metabolism'
but anyone with a ounce of knowledge knows that it is to do with metabolism.

The thing is, we all eat more calories than we actually need, so it's a bit rich to slag off fat people for eating too much.

And metabolism does make a difference - my weight never really varies regardless of diet and exercise. Another person living the same lifestyle as me could be a complete heffer as a result.

Ton - do a food diary and be 100% honest with yourself. Add up the calorie values of everything you eat & drink and see what it comes to - you'll be surprised!

Most peoples problem is creeping weight gain; a general tendency to eat slightly more than you need, then as you get older activity rates (generally) drop and the gain increases and is harder to lose.

ah! the wink ! I get it now 😆

It's glandular anyway - the mouth gland is bigger than the arse gland.

LOL.
Im fat so what..
Its my glands ??

LOL
so ive stopped eating Glands Then lol

As we went over last week.

- Punching someone because they're fat and you don't like it is pathetic behaviour.

- [u]most[/u] larger people could get considerably thinner if they were seriously bothered about it.

- being somewhat smaller would have some advantages for the majority of larger people.

- this means that being large is not really the same as being black or gay.

- it is difficult to come up with a reason why larger people need special legal protection for their status, other than that they don't like being punched.

- generally, mocking people is mean and should happen less.

- all the psychology in that article is interesting, and I'm sure people who attack larger people for no better reason than they don't like them being fat are much more screwed up than the people they're attacking. The fact that skinny people are afraid of being fat doesn't necessarily make being big either healthy or attractive. Again, this is no reason to punch them.

[i]but what am i doing wrong if i wanted to lose weight. [/i]

Ton, you actually bothered to post last week about how you were inserting a bag of fish and chips into your head because it was Friday. That would have pretty much used up your weight-watchers points for the day. I suspect you weren't counting. I've watched people shed 50% of their bodyweight doing weight-watchers. It has a major effect on what you eat, and is exactly no fun at all. 😉

And once again everyone puts it down to 'eating' too much.

'Consuming' too much would be a better term since the problem for a huge amount of people is simply too much high calorie alcohol.

8 pints a week is almost 2000 calories - most people don't come close to using those extra 2000 calories. That's pretty much a whole days worth of calories for a sedentary person.

How many posters on here know of very obese people who don't eat a huge amount but can knock back 7 or 8 pints without if affecting them? And do on a regular basis?

Add that to a few Cokes per week, a Starbucks coffee*, maybe the odd chocolate bar.

The problem for the general population isn't metabolism, or deliberate over-eating. The problem is that most people mislead themselves that they don't consume many calories when exactly the opposite is true.

*Starbucks flavoured water contains in the region of 140 calories. That's right - WATER!

bd, i had special k for breakfast on that day........ 8)

barnsleymitch:

This may come as a bit of a shock, but I agree with ton - as a bit of a porker myself, I can assure everyone that it has nothing to do with my metabolism or genetic make up. No, I'm festively plump because I eat too much stuff that's bad for me, and I don't do enough exercise. No excuses, and to be perfectly frank, I don't give a fiddler's **** what anyone thinks. Peace out, now where did I put them hob-nobs?

Write that lot up in a manifesto and i will vote for you sir!

someone on here will probably come up with ' it is nothing to do with metabolism'
but anyone with a ounce of knowledge knows that it is to do with metabolism.

I spent 3 years unable to figure out why I struggled to keep my weight down.
I got invited to the docs for tests 😯 etc. for my 50th birthday
I was diagnosed with a seriously not working thyroid gland & immediately put on a very large dose of a hormone called Thyroxine, it took around 18 months for them to get the dosage right but since then I've not had any trouble keeping my weight reasonably stable.

People who exercise on a regular basis have a higher metabolic rate.
I assume if you do this and are still fat you're probably eating too much.

Maybe some people have a ginetic make-up that makes them susceptible and compulsive to certain kinds of food.

But obviously to single them out for abuse is wrong...
if you do it more than once.

Diet and exercise...
My TWIN brother shares genes with me, so we should be very similar, you'd think. We were almost identical in build until our 30s, and I was the heavier of the two of us.

Now, though, he is fat.
He eats take-aways, drinks alcohol most nights, does very little exercise and drives everywhere.

I'm not fat, although I have had to struggle with my spare tyre like most men in their late 30s.
I eat little meat, cheese or fried food, don't drink much alcohol and as I no longer own a car, use a bicycle for 90% of my journeys (including going to the gym.)

I don't think our differing lifestyles and subsequent body shapes are due to coincidence.

Do I tease him about it? No, of course not. He's still my brother.

it's political correctness gone mad, one minute you can't use the N word any more and before you know where you are you'll be in prison for calling some bird with big-tits Fair instead of Blonde.

There is a genetic and metabolic element. There was a TV documentary about a study done. They gave this one lad a higher fat diet and rather than put on fat he just put on muscle doing no excercise. Others put on fat.

But mostly it's down to too many pies and not enough running.

if i want to stay a bit slim, i have to ignore a bit of hunger and exercise lots. its a battle. most of the time i win. but i'd hate to be a fat shite so i will keep fighting. easy route in anything brings you nothing but short term gain and long term pain.

My GP said to me once that she was seeing people effectively killing themselves because of their lifestyle (lack of exercise, poor diet).

What the article and the people asking for the law appeared to have missed is that being overweight is a health problem that for the good of the individuals involved, needs to be resolved. It's not the same (as mentioned above) as discriminating against people by race or sexuality. Being of African descent or gay is not unhealthy and causes no harm to individuals).

Presumably, the penalty for thumping someone for being fat is already covered under existing laws (assault, GBH etc), no?

Hey, lets's all laugh at the anorexics too! Or XC Whippets as I believe they prefer to be called.

My GP said to me once that she was seeing people effectively killing themselves because of their lifestyle (lack of exercise, poor diet).

What the article and the people asking for the law appeared to have missed is that being overweight is a health problem that for the good of the individuals involved, needs to be resolved.

& yet we're living much longer 🙂

The upsurge in the number of fatties on the planet is mother natures way of helping us survive when the oil runs out. We'll have loads of blubber to use as fuel.

I'm moving to Samoa, no worries then.

It's all relative - if I lived in Tonga I'd be a whippet!! 😀

Its not nice to be called names, if if its fatual, I do believe a lot of children are overweight because their parents introduced them to bad diets, also genetics and big bones are rather pathetic excuses but, no matter what size you are, name calling is still upsetting. Shame more overweight people cant take control of their health and fitness and lose the lard for their own benefit.

I eat loads of food, probably eat five times a day and Im only around nine and a quarter stone. I try to eat pretty well, don't do cakes, custard, pies or take aways, just plenty of nutritious nosh 'cause that's what I like eating. I find unhealthy stuff makes me feel a bit sicky, sluggish and like I haven't been fed properly so I try to avoid it.

Presumably, the penalty for thumping someone for being fat is already covered under existing laws (assault, GBH etc), no?

I agree with this.

It's funny though how these moral judgements about overweight people and the burden on the NHS etc don't seem to apply to smokers or people who drink too much.

It's funny though how these moral judgements about overweight people and the burden on the NHS etc don't seem to apply to smokers or people who drink too much.

because even smokers and drinkers are faster over 10 yards than a fat bloke and you'd be scared they'd have yeh! 🙂

You see that's more like good-natured piss-taking I can appreciate. 🙂

People who exercise on a regular basis have a higher metabolic rate.

while they're exercising

if it carried on once they were resting they'd have to sweat more or overheat

They should stop eating "them genes". Far too many calories!

Should stick to pies instead.

[i]f*ck's sake. Over-sensitive porkers giving the rest of us tubby bitches a bad name. Bring the abuse on, I'm too busy eating lard to notice.[/i]

Give me my pie back, at once!! & the chips!
You should hear what I get called at work, do I care? Do i bollix!

Is it true people have to eat a certain number of calories per day purely to [i]maintain[/i] their (over) weight?
My weight (not overweight :D) looks like its been kept in check with the amount of exercise I do but recently I decided to cut out the snacking and be a bit more careful with the diet and I've started to lose a few pounds. Not much - but I've noticed it.
But hey, it all adds up on the bike and when running.

This is interesting;

[i]In 2007, Adam Childers, a cook at a restaurant chain called Boston’s The Gourmet Pizza, injured his back while at work. Doctors determined that Childers was overweight and without weight-loss surgery, the back injury couldn’t be fixed. Childers was advised to undergo weight-loss surgery and the company was forced to pay for it as part of the Workers’ Compensation claim.

The company argued that Childer’s weight constituted a pre-existing condition for which it was not responsible. But the Indiana Court of Appeals ruled differently, saying that the employee’s pre-existing obesity, combined with his back injury and subsequent weight gain, formed a new work-related “single injury” the employer was responsible for treating.

There was a similar case in August in which the Oregon Supreme Court ruled that an employer was responsible for paying for weight-loss surgery for an employee who needed a knee replacement but had to lose weight first.

Although such cases are still rare, I can see how paranoid employers might use it against hiring people who are considered “obese.” (According to data from The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, about two-thirds of Americans are overweight, and 27 percent — about 72 million — are obese.)

The overweight, like smokers, are not protected by the ADA and haven’t historically had much success claiming they were discriminated against.

There’s also the definition of “obese” to contend with. As defined by the National Institutes of Health, you are obese if you have a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 30 and above. (A BMI of 30 is about 30 pounds overweight.) A BMI is a person’s weight in kilograms divided by his or her height in meters squared.[/i]

It does seem to be an encouragement for employers to discriminate against weight if they offer private health cover.

Given the number of health complaints over and above the normal number that go with being morbidly obese, I'm not surprised.

Yes, it's a travesty, but I can see why a company, possibly stung once, possibly knowing someone else that has been stung, would think twice about hiring an obese person.

You see the same thing coming in now with small businesses thinking about hiring women of family-minded age. A lot of them are put off by the possibility of getting them trained up, then having them off with a kid for a year after dropping. Again, it's illegal to discriminate, but if you were forced to a) pay for the person to be away from the office for up to a year and b) pay for a replacement to do their job, would you not be wary of hiring them?

Going back to tubbies though, if I don't run/cycle/do weights/some other form of exercise, I start gaining weight, even on a normal amount of food (ok, maybe with extra bread, toast and cheese thrown in at work), so i make the conscious choice to run the shit out of myself most nights of the week, do weights and cycle so that I keep in shape and don't get too lardy.

I will not end up like my dad.

The unprovoked attack was not an isolated incident, say [b]weight equality campaigners[/b].

Beating someone up cos they are fat is just a sign of some peoples intolerance of pretty much everone that isn't just like them, race, religion, sexuality, dress sense (emos), form of transport (cyclists) and the pub classic "looking at me in a funny way"

But yeah I can see the work discrimination may be a real worry.

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jonb - Member
There is a genetic and metabolic element. There was a TV documentary about a study done. They gave this one lad a higher fat diet and rather than put on fat he just put on muscle doing no excercise. Others put on fat.

But mostly it's down to too many pies and not enough running.

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iDave - Member
if i want to stay a bit slim, i have to ignore a bit of hunger and exercise lots. its a battle. most of the time i win. but i'd hate to be a fat shite so i will keep fighting. easy route in anything brings you nothing but short term gain and long term pain.

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brooess - Member
My GP said to me once that she was seeing people effectively killing themselves because of their lifestyle (lack of exercise, poor diet).

What the article and the people asking for the law appeared to have missed is that being overweight is a health problem that for the good of the individuals involved, needs to be resolved. It's not the same (as mentioned above) as discriminating against people by race or sexuality. Being of African descent or gay is not unhealthy and causes no harm to individuals).

Presumably, the penalty for thumping someone for being fat is already covered under existing laws (assault, GBH etc), no?

Posted 15 hours ago # Report-Post
ooOOoo - Member
Hey, lets's all laugh at the anorexics too! Or XC Whippets as I believe they prefer to be called.

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uplink - Member

My GP said to me once that she was seeing people effectively killing themselves because of their lifestyle (lack of exercise, poor diet).

What the article and the people asking for the law appeared to have missed is that being overweight is a health problem that for the good of the individuals involved, needs to be resolved.

& yet we're living much longer

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Goan - Member
The upsurge in the number of fatties on the planet is mother natures way of helping us survive when the oil runs out. We'll have loads of blubber to use as fuel.

Posted 13 hours ago # Report-Post
joolsburger - Member
I'm moving to Samoa, no worries then.

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scotabroad - Member
It's all relative - if I lived in Tonga I'd be a whippet!!

Posted 13 hours ago # Report-Post
flippinheckler - Member
Its not nice to be called names, if if its fatual, I do believe a lot of children are overweight because their parents introduced them to bad diets, also genetics and big bones are rather pathetic excuses but, no matter what size you are, name calling is still upsetting. Shame more overweight people cant take control of their health and fitness and lose the lard for their own benefit.

Posted 12 hours ago # Report-Post
Keva - Member
I eat loads of food, probably eat five times a day and Im only around nine and a quarter stone. I try to eat pretty well, don't do cakes, custard, pies or take aways, just plenty of nutritious nosh 'cause that's what I like eating. I find unhealthy stuff makes me feel a bit sicky, sluggish and like I haven't been fed properly so I try to avoid it.

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grumm - Member

Presumably, the penalty for thumping someone for being fat is already covered under existing laws (assault, GBH etc), no?

I agree with this.

It's funny though how these moral judgements about overweight people and the burden on the NHS etc don't seem to apply to smokers or people who drink too much.

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Stoner - Member

It's funny though how these moral judgements about overweight people and the burden on the NHS etc don't seem to apply to smokers or people who drink too much.

because even smokers and drinkers are faster over 10 yards than a fat bloke and you'd be scared they'd have yeh!

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grumm - Member
You see that's more like good-natured piss-taking I can appreciate.

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simonfbarnes - Member

People who exercise on a regular basis have a higher metabolic rate.

while they're exercising

if it carried on once they were resting they'd have to sweat more or overheat [/i]

My metabolic rate must be high because of the amount of food I consume relative to the size of me... and yes Im pretty much warm most of the time.

K

Ease up on the cutting and pasting thing there Keva!

blimey no idea what happened there ??? must have grabbed a load of other stuff in the buffer and pasted it without realising! Im at work and got interrupted whilst typing, rather dangerous! could have had some other very none STW stuff in there..

anyways, it was just the last bit I meant to paste in what SFB had written...

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simonfbarnes - Member

People who exercise on a regular basis have a higher metabolic rate.

while they're exercising

if it carried on once they were resting they'd have to sweat more or overheat [/i]

My metabolic rate must be high because of the amount of food I consume relative to the size of me... and yes Im pretty much warm most of the time.

K

A chap I know who is a marine believes that all fatties who are that way due to over indulgence should be tied to the back of a land rover and be made to run until they are thin

OR

they fall over and the fat wears away.

A little harsh I feel, but I did laugh.

Brainiac, which is the scientific source for all knowledge, found that fat people do not get cooler or hotter any faster than skinny people.

i am getting close to the 3500-4000 kcal per day and lets face it I am probably among the slimest on here.
So I take it there must be a metabolism issue somewhere.

found that fat people do not get cooler or hotter any faster than skinny people.

what were they measuring, given that a temeprature change of more than a few degreees is fatal ?

So I take it there must be a metabolism issue somewhere.

you cannot actually separate metabolism from activity, as one supports the other. I'm very fidgetty, which obviously uses up calories...

What about vigerous onanism, which uses a huge amount?

"What about vigerous onanism, which uses a huge amount?"

Tried that - still overweight, but cocooned in a bubble of sp**k!

I think they had underarm electronic readers Simon. I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention to be honest, the sight of a very skinny man and a very fat man sat in a freezer was far too distracting.

My GF has ordered me on a diet again.

3 months to get fit...

Dam.

Christ, Waggon Wheels just get smaller and smaller. I had to eat all 6 with a cup of tea. Now then, is this thread still running?