The Clarkson look has very little to do with his jeans. Its more to do with the patterned shirts and sports jacket.
No, it's more to do with his gut.
Genuine question for the anti denim brigade, what casual trousers are acceptable for a 30+ gent in your view?
Under the patch. Why would you put it over? As for not being able to buy jeans with this facility, my Alpkit ones I'm currently wearing can and have a rather nice patch too.
Genuine question for the anti denim brigade, what casual trousers are acceptable for a 30+ gent in your view?
Ignore the denim haters,don't be shy,go big,go double. 🙂
Genuine question for the anti denim brigade, what casual trousers are acceptable for a 30+ gent in your view?
Grey or beige chinos, shorts or walking trousers.
Genuine question for the anti denim brigade, what casual trousers are acceptable for a 30+ gent in your view?
anything from Loro Piana should suffice.
anything from Loro Piana should suffice.
I don’t own a Ferrari and a yacht.
Grey or beige chinos, shorts or walking trousers
Slim fit flat front chinos are for work. Shorts are for summer. Walking trousers, I’m sure are great for walking And my mum. Nothing to convince me to ditch my jeans there.
Genuine question for the anti denim brigade, what casual trousers are acceptable for a 30+ gent in your view?
depends on what you are doing. Black proper trousers is my usual. ( pleat front if possible so they drape properly over my mighty thighs). Chinos for casual, Walking trousers for doing stuff.
Haven't worn jeans since my early 20s. Now 59
Also - no collared shirts apart from polo shirts unless you are wearing a tie. Shirts to be tucked in. Polished shoes
As opposed to untucked, and looking like a year 8 school kid being rebellious.
Do you also have your wallet on a chain clipped to the belt loops and a Korn patch on your rucksac?
Ooh....somebody is very upset because they’ve just realised they look like Jeremy Clarkson. Bless, a wallet. You sit down for a bit and have a werthers.
depends on what you are doing. Black proper trousers is my usual. ( pleat front if possible so they drape properly over my mighty thighs). Chinos for casual, Walking trousers for doing stuff.
Haven’t worn jeans since my early 20s. Now 59
Also – no collared shirts apart from polo shirts unless you are wearing a tie. Shirts to be tucked in. Polished shoes
Ah I get it, waiter chic!
Love a good STW fashion thread! 🥳🥳🥳
Also – no collared shirts apart from polo shirts
Please tell me not with the collar turned up? And please not rugger shirts!?
My gf often says she'd like to punch men in the face who do that.... A bit extreme maybe but such is the emotion it stirs... 😉
I’d agree with your girlfriend tbh.
Slim fit flat front chinos are for work.
Maybe if you own a wine bar then it’s with pink Ralph Lauren shirt and navy blue jumper draped over both shoulders with the arms tied together.
Oh and apparently there’s special shirts now for wearing untucked. 🙄
always fun Futon river crossing. One hopes one can educate a few tho 😉
TJ - you do realise you’ve basically described the uniform of a fast food outlet worker. Well you’ve missed the hat I suppose 😄
Love a good STW fashion thread! 🥳🥳🥳
they don’t come much better.
whenever i watch top gear it’s not Clarkson who’s the sartorial horror show it’s the audience! you can’t beat a nice blouson rally jacket or a race team monogrammed polo tucked in over a paunch 👍
Always over the patch.
Denim must be raw Japanese selvedge and broken in properly by leaving as long as possible before washing for creases and fades which actually match your body shape.
Quality denim with good footwear is a good look regardless of age.
Cheap denim regardless of what footwear is worn is a rubbish look.
I once wore a pair of Evisu jeans costing £1200 pounds which were eventually sold to Beckham. Fun denim fact.
fankmaster - nope nice quality trousers not cheap rubbish. Plain tee shirts no logo, bands or "funny" slogans. Plain brightly coloured polos.
ONly a shirt with collar if you are going to put a tie on ( bar the polo shirt)
Its the subtle differences that show the class!
I once wore a pair of Evisu jeans costing £1200 pounds which were eventually sold to Beckham. Fun denim fact.
Not really a denim fact, more a strange brag. Did you try them on and then he bought them. Context!
Its the subtle differences that show the class
You can’t have the phrase show the class immediately preceded by Polo shirt and bright colours. That’s just not the way the world works TJ 😀
47. Jeans, polo, Harrington or mac. Cherry docs or gazelles,
I wear chinos or a suit for work. **** wearing work clothes when I'm out and about....
Fake leather patch shown with pride on my George jeans.👍
Mid forties, gap jeans for work and play unless doing outdoorsy stuff.
Basically wear what you’re comfortable in and ignore other people’s views of what’s right and wrong, happiness does not lay in that direction.
Anyone who wears chinos outside of work (or even in work for that matter) is called Simon and works in IT.
Over or under? Depends how much fumble drying the jeans have been through.
Curious about the views on roll neck sweaters?
Chino wearers.
66. 501s.
Chinos are fine for work but no way I’m wearing them outside that, bar a few smart-ish social things.
Jeans are fine, but need to be good jeans and well fitting. Unwashed Edwin ED-55 are my preferred option, ideally with a pair of vintage type trainers.
Under.
And the patch is there for a reason. Brand your initials into it so that when they go into the wash along with everyone elses in the bunkhouse you get your own pair back..... 🙂
Slim fit plain front chinos are ok for work, but "walking trousers"... dear oh dear. And anything with zips to make shorts needs taking down the charity shop. Got fed up with random sizing of Levi's. Rediscovered Replay after about 25 years and very pleased with the fit and quality.
@funkmasterperp No brag involved, I just find it quite surreal.. I just worked in the one retailer who happened to have a pair in his size (the only pair in the country, which was also my size) so sent pics of me wearing them to his representative and he then bought them.
I worked enough in clothes shops to know there is no brag involved once you become aware of the mark up.
Over the patch.
Unless you’ve bought LEE , then it has to go under . At least I did in 1984.:-)
I just want to clarify; are the people who are saying ‘raw Japanese selvedge’ being daily mash style ironic or are they serious? It’s all a bit ‘artisan coffee/log burners/overpriced watches‘ isn’t it?
Wear what you want; if you’re an over 40 male in a relationship nobody cares except you and possibly your kids and partner (in which case ask them, not us) what you’re wearing anyway 🙄😂
Once over 50 there's only one look surely?
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quite right - the man is a style icon. I have a range of shirts and jumpers in pink, lavender, cerise, fuchsia etc * bet you peasants don't even know what those colours are!
I also have a taupe linen suit, some nice tweeds, a demob suit but no gray loafers and haven't worn denim since the 80s
shirts and jumpers in pink, lavender, cerise, fuchsia etc * bet you peasants don’t even know what those colours are!
Pink, they’re all kinda pink aren’t they? 😉
116 posts and not one mention of flares
I once wore a pair of Evisu jeans costing £1200 pounds which were eventually sold to Beckham.
Over, Carharrt straight jeans combined, this time of the year, with a bit of Donegal tweed. 63
ONly a shirt with collar if you are going to put a tie on
I always wear a tie with pyjamas
fumble drying
Yes please.
Amateurs.
The correct answer is there is no patch, because real metrosexuals are vegan and don't buy leather 🙂
Henry Bloefeld - the man who gets dressed in the dark.
Jeez. Who are you taking style advice from - the tramp on the left, or the hunk on the right?
pyjamas? NO gentleman wears pyjamas!
lycra nappy wearers arguing over style 😀
Over - only people who want to show off their expensive jeans , usually Armani wear under because they are vain. You are then supposed to comment on how good their jeans are.
My staple wardrobe for the last umpteen years is hoody , jeans , skate shoes or DMs sometimes the hoody is replaced by a check flannel shirt I'm now 64 and if people think it's tragic tough ! 😎✊️
Razarazoo- cords are acceptable but only in a jeans style.
Everyone is missing the Elephant in this fashion room.
Anyone over 30 that has to ask how to dress should never have moved away from home.
😉 🙂
I don't understand the references to selvedge jeans.
Selvedge is an edge produced on woven fabric during manufacture that prevents it from unravelling.
in 19c/early 20c novels its sometimes used as a metaphor to mean (in modern terms) the crappy bit of life that nobody really wants. Or in more literal terms, the cheaper cuts of fabric the the poor make their curtains and furnishings out of.
So when the fashionistas on here talk about paying £90 for a pair of "selvedge jeans", I can't help thinking, "somebody really saw you coming".
Correct, you don’t .
Everyone is missing the Elephant in this fashion room.
Anyone over 30 that has to ask how to dress should never have moved away from home.
many folk on here would do better if their mother dressed them 🙂
Thought I'd look in as four pages with such a tricky one as this, and I'd imagine that the opening moves would now be played through, and the main theme of argument starting to emerge. Slightly optimistic maybe, but say ten or so more pages to bring it in? Surprised at the lack of a braces and waistcoats splinter group, but I guess there's time?
Correct, you don’t .
Well, why don't you explain?
No, but we are still desperately trying to get into the same size jeans as when we were 20, so flab-roll pressure holds them perfectly in place.
I’ve still got a couple of pairs of 501’s from around then, and I can, just, get into them. So long as I don’t want to walk too far, sit down for too long, or do any bending...
As far as the patch is concerned, I always wear my belt over the patch, although the ones I wear most have nothing written on the patch anyway, it’s blank. Japanese selvedge, too.
And belts? Mostly they’re nylon webbing Eagle Creek travel belts, although I’ve got a couple of nice leather belts, one that I had made, with two large brass rings that the other end threads through and is held by a Sam Browne stud, the other I made myself with brass fittings from an older belt that was too short.
Oh, and I have a couple of Animal belts which are like seatbelt webbing, and the buckles are like aircraft seatbelt q/r buckles..
Snappy dresser, me.
No, but we are still desperately trying to get into the same size jeans as when we were 20
Well if I had any 46 year old jeans left, I would be able to get into them. Flab isn't a given as you get older.
quite right – the man is a style icon. I have a range of shirts and jumpers in pink, lavender, cerise, fuchsia etc * bet you peasants don’t even know what those colours are!
Of course I know what those colours are; colours I wouldn’t be seen dead wearing.
Plain tee shirts no logo, bands or “funny” slogans. Plain brightly coloured polos.
Only a shirt with collar if you are going to put a tie on ( bar the polo shirt)
Most of my tee shirts are from gigs or are bike related with logos on, and as for polo shirts, they go along with those colours above, I wouldn’t be seen dead wearing them either!
Do you also have your wallet on a chain clipped to the belt loops and a Korn patch on your rucksac?
As it happens, I have a lanyard of woven paracord to tether my wallet to a belt loop, because it’s a Pelican sport wallet which is made from the same hard plastic as their gun and travel cases, and rather slippery, it’s forever falling out of my pocket, and I’d rather not have to replace the contents, like my driver’s licence, debit card, etc.
I also have my phone attached to a lanyard, for the same reason - I don’t want to lose a £1500 phone either.
No band patches on my rucksack, and they will be hosting the Winter Olympics in Hades before I have anything to do with Korn!
many folk on here would do better if their mother dressed them
That, from someone who advocates dressing like an off-duty estate agent?
I stopped giving a shit about what people think about what I wear fifty-odd years ago.
Most people think I’m around twenty years younger than I am, which is better than dressing like someone twenty years older... 😜
colours I wouldn’t be seen dead wearing.
From previous "fashion" threads I seem to recall you go in for the Tramp/Walter Mitty/ '70's German terrorist* look don't you? So I think we can all safely ignore any advice about colours
*Army Surplus
Typical british men - afraid of bright colours. Its all khaki and grey and black!
Tsk tsk
I wore army surplus in my 20s once I grew up from wearing jeans
these days its all black dress trousers and brightly coloured t shirts / polo shirts
go on - ask your other halves - see what they think
BTW - in case you hadn't realised nothing I say about dress codes is meant at all seriously bar the ruddy awful dress sense of 99% of british men and the dull colours they wear and its fun to prod people who by their reaction really know I am right!
I mean - what a style icon!
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What is that on your head in the second photo? Looks like a Smurf hat 😀
Remember folks there is a world of difference between fashion and style.
Correct funky! Channelling my inner smurf
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52 and bought my first 510s. Previously rocking 511s but I have gone narrower. I’m a 30/32 leg. Same as I was 35 years ago. Boots rather than shoes.
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Typical british men – afraid of bright colours. Its all khaki and grey and black!
Not me. I represented our company at the FDA sporting a fine loud bird patterned Guide London dress shirt and tight Paul Smith suit. Not your typical US pharma white shirt and bad fitting suit.
because it’s a Pelican sport wallet which is made from the same hard plastic as their gun and travel cases, and rather slippery, it’s forever falling out of my pocket, and I’d rather not have to replace the contents, like my driver’s licence, debit card, etc
You could just get a normal wallet that does the one job its supposed to...
Looks like a Smurf hat
Haven't seen Smurf Hat since he flounced all those years ago.
fine loud bird patterned
No no no
Where is Flashy when we really need his specialist knowledge?
Where is Flashy
In a hollowed out volcano, stroking a cat*
*not a euphemism. An actual cat.
The correct answer is there is no patch, because real metrosexuals are vegan and don’t buy leather
The patch on 501’s is paper...
Many jeans have vinyl patches that looks like leather. And I thought real metrosexuals photosynthesise, like the delicate flowers they are...
You could just get a normal wallet that does the one job its supposed to…
It does one job very, very well, protecting the contents from damage like getting wet, or just being sat on all the time. It has a loop for attaching a lanyard to keep it safe, mainly from scumbag pickpockets, but my work trousers have stupid little pockets with a silly button flap that the buttons get ripped off of.
People lose leather wallets all the time, I’ve not lost one ever, and my Pelican stays in proper pockets, just not silly ones on Dickies work trousers and shorts.
They’re rubbish, but i don’t have to pay for them.
Selvedge is an edge produced on woven fabric during manufacture that prevents it from unravelling.
in 19c/early 20c novels its sometimes used as a metaphor to mean (in modern terms) the crappy bit of life that nobody really wants. Or in more literal terms, the cheaper cuts of fabric the the poor make their curtains and furnishings out of.
Never come across selvedge as a metaphor for a crappy bit of life that nobody wants, because, as your previous definition points out it’s the edge of a width of fabric designed to prevent it unraveling, which, if applied to life should indicate something of great worth.
Methinks your attempt to make a smartassed snarky comment about people paying over the odds for a quality product has just fallen flat on its ass.
The fact is that when denim became highly popular during the sixties into the seventies and on, manufacturers couldn’t keep up with demand on the narrow looms that selvedge denim had been traditionally woven on, and natural indigo dye too expensive, so the looms were sold off and wider looms producing chemical dyed cloth in wider batches took over. The prices didn’t drop, though.
The old looms were bought by the Japanese who carried on producing heavyweight denim dyed with natural indigo, in much smaller batches, from which fewer pairs can be produced.
As anyone who isn’t a complete idiot should know, any product manufactured in smaller quantities, using higher quality materials, is going to charge higher prices.
It’s the principle of supply and demand, innit.
Of course, a pair of jeans made from 20oz, natural indigo selvedge denim, and probably largely hand made, if looked after, will likely last ten or twenty years, my 501’s are forty years old.
A pair of 10 or 12oz mass-produced chemical-dyed denim might not last last two years, but still cost £80-90, if not more; I’ve seen pre-ripped jeans, made from thin denim costing £170!
A pair of £250 20oz selvedge jeans could easily last ten times as long, while costing only about a third as much more.
Here endeth the lesson. 😉
Selvedge jeans = Sam Vimes boots theory.
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