You can't give penalties by guessing. If they have the camera in the wrong place then unfortunately not a lot that can be done.
Random plank checking doesn't seem very random....
https://twitter.com/wearetherace/status/1717528247896850848?t=PPLVGboJWQkUsuTg8NrhIw&s=19
You can’t give penalties by guessing. If they have the camera in the wrong place then unfortunately not a lot that can be done.
No - but if you make the rules you should make sure you police them properly. Getting cameras in the right place a fairly basic ask. The FIA are constantly proving they're not doing their job correctly.
Nothing can be done now, but easy to see why some drivers are a bit peeved.
If the FIA didn't have a strangle-hold on many of the circuits F1 visits I'm sure the teams and Liberty would go their own way.
Something radical needs doing about this track limits stupidity. It’s motorsport not tennis.
I don't have a problem with them saying "the track is defined by the white lines, leave it and you will be penalised". Enforcing that in a consistent, timely and accurate manner is what's important - it's daft to allow people to run off the track at one corner but not another. With all the tech available to F1 I'd be happy with an "anti drs" solution rather than time penalties - run off the track and there's an immediate penalty where you are capped at 80% throttle in the next "anti dra zone"
Random plank checking doesn’t seem very random….
Conspiracy theorist would say that leans towards anyone who "they" might not want to beat RB this year.
If You were of that state of mind you might suggest that it was to make certain Perez finished 2nd in the championship.
Conspiracy theorist would say that leans towards anyone who “they” might not want to beat RB this year.
Apparently they study the amount of bouncing a car is doing along with the distinct smell of the hot plank. As the Ferrari and Merc bounce a lot more than the others they are bound to be checked more.
Well I don’t know what that means but it sounds bad
One man's meat is another man's poison.
No – but if you make the rules you should make sure you police them properly.
I suggest a nice Indy style concrete wall precisely 1 max legal car width away from the white line 🙂
Or at least a big hard edged sausage curb that would present some risk of damaging the car
It's being reported that 0.05mm is how much Lewis's plank was worn by. They must have taken lots of measurements all over it before they found the very spot that was a tiny, tiny bit worn too much. 😉
It’s being reported that 0.05mm is how much Lewis’s plank was worn by.
This is a bit of a debacle, but Lewis's car was not compliant. The Merc team have accepted that, the DSQ was correct. The debacle was that the circuit rewarded running cars as low as possible and probably a lot more were illegal but weren't tested. Mark Hughes had a column about the Red Bull - they apparently raised their ride height to make sure they stayed compliant, hence the rest of the field closed the gap to them. Merc and Ferrari pushed it to the limit and went too far. What we don't know is how many other teams pushed it too far but got away with it.
I’d be interested to know how you measure a bit of plywood that accurately
I suggest a nice Indy style concrete wall precisely 1 max legal car width away from the white line 🙂
Or at least a big hard edged sausage curb that would present some risk of damaging the car
Isn't part of the issue that they run MotoGP races on the same tracks, so anything on the edges, sausages, rumble strips, etc would cause safety issues for for the riders?
Maybe some raiseable walls like you get at a bowling alley would work? 🤔
Embedded wires and transponders in the cars? It's not difficult. How many new cars already alert drivers when they are crossing a lane marking?
PlanetF1 is reporting that Der Speigel is reporting that the Audi F1 project is dead in the water.... https://www.planetf1.com/news/teams-warning-audi-f1-stillborn-project
It would be a neat way to solve the Andretti problem.
And VW bottle F1 again after making a hash of their Porsche entry.
I’d be interested to know how you measure a bit of plywood that accurately, although not that interested.
Ok so
A. The plank is made of resin not wood
B. The metal skid thingy is measured, not the resin ‘plank’.
Might be a bit hot in Mexico!…
https://twitter.com/dr_obbs/status/1717967951360385229?s=46&t=EQoHg-RGok071Fjc15ZHKw
Albon dragging the williams around the track. Why doesnt he get snapped up? Surely Aston, Mclaren and RB could pickup a young fast driver on the up
Albon is thriving outside the Red Bull environment - be amazed if he went back there.
That's quite the confidence interval for Williams. I assume it's a reflection of the gap between Albon and the other guy.
Albon is thriving outside the Red Bull environment – be amazed if he went back there.
Any driver on the grid would jump at a chance to get a seat in the fastest car. The reason Albon's not in the Red Bull is because Red Bull don't want him, not the other way around.
That’s not entirely true. There’s a post interview article somewhere where Albon carefully described how he was treated at RB and it isn’t good - very much so the “second” driver - even when spoken diplomatically.
There’s a post interview article somewhere where Albon carefully described how he was treated at RB and it isn’t good
No doubt, but the reason he's not driving for Red Bull is because they don't want him, not because he doesn't want them.
Albon dragging the williams around the track. Why doesnt he get snapped up?
I think he's negotiating a deal not unlike Norris, I think Williams have realised that fundamentally he's a pretty good driver, and are trying to persuade him* to stay to help to drag them back to the mid pack as opposed the first of the back-markers
*With guile and cunning no doubt, and not with piles of cash...as that never happens in F1
Albon knows he’s lucky to be in F1 at all, he’s not going to risk it all on Red when it could come up black. A long steady F1 career is better than no F1 seat.
He was kicked out of the Red Bull system at lower level and only bought into F1 after Ricciardo’s shock exit and there was no one else available.
Only someone who is happy being a number 2 would go to Red Bull as it stands and there aren’t many Irvine’s about now.
It's gonna be quite the recovery drive from Norris tomorrow
Isn’t part of the issue that they run MotoGP races on the same tracks, so anything on the edges, sausages, rumble strips, etc would cause safety issues for for the riders?<br /><br />
shouldn’t they be on the track aswell. I’m sure you could design something that bikes could fit through but not a car
That was an unexpected result. Perez not doing his chances of keeping his seat much good by getting outqualified by Ricciardo.
Yeah, quite a statement by Ricciardo. I’m quite enjoying the prospect of him potentially getting the Alpha Tauri to the flag ahead of the car he’ll be driving next year…
Also looking forward to seeing Norris’s recovery drive.
shouldn’t they be on the track aswell. I’m sure you could design something that bikes could fit through but not a car
But sometimes you need an escape route that won’t kill you. And sometimes you’re sliding across the tarmac at 100mph on your arse.
I don't know why, but I have a feeling that this will be a really good one
3 wide around the outside? Beginning to look desperate
https://twitter.com/F1/status/1718721145451540808
Good to see Max's class showing again, calling the red flag a joke. Great to see his is concerned about the crash/driver/damaged barrier.
Prat!
Agreed, he didn’t help himself with that comment - thought JP didn’t help either - hardly a conspiracy with that hole in the barrier!
Good race that - enjoyed it.
Ferrari again! 🤷♂️
How do the screw up time after time?
Really exciting stuff from Norris there
Good race. Danny Ric did a cracking job, possibly could have had Russell if he'd had a couple more laps. Following Sainz closely seemed to destroy his tyres as Hamilton still had good pace at the end.
Bit of a shame to see some people in the crowd acting stupidly. That tough guy beating up the two Ferrari supporters - what a manchild. Didn't seem as hard once that other guy came over and put him in a choke hold 😀
https://twitter.com/f1trollofficial/status/1718739380498747566
Bit of a shame to see some people in the crowd acting stupidly.
The hoards of folks leaving after Perez crashing? I mean, I can see that you're upset that the driver you hoped would get on the podium is out of the race, but presumably you've paid for a ticket? Weird behaviour.
Great race, watching Norris make his way through the field twice was a highlight, and Mercedes doing a decent job with strategy for a change. 3rd place for LeClerc seems like not much reward for putting it on pole, and great to see Danny Ricc driving the nuts of the Alpha Tauri, Neither Tsunoda or De Vries would've been capable of that.
I reckon though, that's going to be the crash that sees the end of Perez's career at RB, apparently the damage he did to the floor was pretty extensive, to do that, to drive that recklessly at the start of your home GP with 71 laps, makes zero sense. I though it was supposed to be Max that was impatient?
to drive that recklessly at the start of your home GP with 71 laps, makes zero sense.
Nope, no sense at all - Red Bull aren't asking him to win races. They just need him to trail in behind Max.
He was in control of his own track space and had loads of room to his left.
