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Shite – even CAD models as well according to this tweet!…
Yeah, the CAD models of the worst F1 car in years must be worth a lot on the black market.
Sponsors - out, Stripes - in!
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Look like they need to take a leaf out of Hispania Racings 'how to get sponsors' manual!...
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Yeah, the CAD models of the worst F1 car in years must be worth a lot on the black market.
🤣🤣🤣
I bet the beardy-weirdy from $hit Energy would buy them - got to have a starting point for his fictitious F1 team.....
According to Wikipedia it’s Lotus with 79 wins – Brabham had 35 wins.
I'm not that familiar with the 1950s F1, but the original Mercedes team was massively dominant until they withdrew after a horrific crash and didn't compete for decades. Fangio was the Senna/Schumacher/Hamilton of that era - dominant driver in the best car.
edit- hadn't refreshed, already covered above 🙂
beardy logothief is not on there, so that must mean ... rich energy ferrari ?! 🤔 😂
Yeah, the CAD models of the worst F1 car in years must be worth a lot on the black market.
Nah it was a poor car last year but there have been far worse - I remember turning up early on the Friday of the British GP and watching the likes of Life and Andrea Moda attempt (and usually fail) to pre qualify. And back then Williams were fighting for pole...
I bet the beardy-weirdy from $hit Energy would buy them – got to have a starting point for his fictitious F1 team…..
This is where hyphenation is important. If it's a fictitious F1-team, that's a different thing than a fictitious-F1 team. I wouldn't put him past it to turn up with the latter.
I’m not that familiar with the 1950s F1, but the original Mercedes team was massively dominant until they withdrew after a horrific crash and didn’t compete for decades.
They only won nine races in that period over two championships. Still great but not overly dominant.
How many races were there? 😉 There was nothing to touch them - only way they wouldn't win was if something went wrong.
Edit - a quick wiki says 9 wins from 12 races and both titles over the two years it competed.
Frank William’s ran some customer teams before setting up his own with his name on it...
He had two of those - the first one, he went into partnership with Walter Wolf but that didn't work out and Wolf took over the team WGPE was his second solo effort.
Hell yeah!
Used to have a pair of Wolf Scalextric cars, they were ace 🙂
They were a badass-looking car. 🙂
Wolf? How about Eagle?
Great livery for the new F1 Safety Car and Medical Car (well at 12 of this years races anyway.)
This is a good read:
Minardi's miraculous rebirth
Shows how dire things were when Paul Stoddard took over - and the effort getting to the grid.
Good grief, whoever designed the new Ferrari livery needs a slap. Scarlet fading to some sort of shade of piles, with an eye-bleeding slash of bright green on top of it. Are they sponsored by some brand of migraine pills?
Oh dear, that is indeed boggin'!
The darker red on the rear wing looks like the exhaust’s blown oil all over it, maybe it’s to disguise the workings of their new power unit 🙂
Yikes. That's not pretty.
Is that a different dark (non-purpley) red around the cock-pit area too? Is this meant to be "Ferrari reds through the ages" or something? And the nearly-neon green is totally gopping....
I genuinely have no idea what must have been going through their heads. I thought the Williams livery was crap but this surely wins the prize for this year’s worst livery (if you ignore the Formula Kremlin entry).
Alpine has to be the best livery this year by some margin, I think. McLaren, Red Bull and Aston Martin are all decent enough, the Alfa Romeo is ok… the rest? Nah.
s this meant to be “Ferrari reds through the ages”
Yes. https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-two-tone-livery-sf21/
The green bit is the Mission Winnow logo.
Yikes. That’s not pretty.
None of the current breed of F1 cars can be remotely described as being aesthetically inoffensive. Wheelbases are measured in time zones, the cars (especially this Ferrari) resemble Groucho Marx from the front aspect, weird protuberances abound.
I know that we'll never see a Jordan 191 or Ferrari 640 again and that aero performance and chassis stability must trump aesthetics, but frankly every single car on the grid absolutely munts.
Giorgetto Giugiaro's reaction upon seeing the Triumph TR7 is pretty much how I feel about F1 cars.
Formula Kremlin
Lol!
frankly every single car on the grid absolutely munts.
yeah
hopefully the '22 cars are an improvement and not another dicknose era fiasco.
Apparently the green MW logo was a late addition. Not sure if it will stay as they had to remove it last year didn't they?
I expect to see Dick Dastardly & Muttley get out of that Ferrari.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-explains-amazon-talks-over-tv-rights-and-streaming/5686492/
Interesting, we might see F1 on Amazon prime this year.
Might be good, had the F1 channel cheap last year but got rid of SKY this year as I didn't want to pay for loads of TV I don't watch for the little I do watch.
Was going to go back to C4 and Now TV for races I want to watch live.
Might be good
Have you not watched the Rugby that Amazon broadcast? It was of awful quality with many non intentional breaks in the program. NowTV is at least continuous coverage.
Sky's current contract prevents F1 offering its own streaming service to the UK and the article suggests the same would apply to Amazon so don't get your hopes up yet. We're not rid of Sky until 24 (at the earliest)
Anyhow, testing is go! (go! go! as Murray would say)
I predict Merc to look slow, Ferrari to look quick and some unexpected midfield team to be quickest overall.
Who will be slowest in testing ?
I wouldn't be surprised if its Haas this year and not Williams at the back.
Nailed on certainty. They've not developed their car much, if at all, over winter. And plan no major upgrades this season.
Williams have and a large chunk of cash chucked into them and new owners are saying the right words about getting back to the pointy end.
And last years Williams was a decent step-up from their 2019 car.
The alpha's white wheels remind me of an 80's Fiesta with XR2 bits bolted to it
Honda power looking good from the first session… let’s see if that holds up once Merc get on top of the gremlins. Bet Ricciardo’s got a grin under the mask though 🙂
Renault Alpine looks no better out on the track!
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Aston looks near identical to Merc on track when seen from the front as the green looks black.
A lot of rake on the Ferrari.
Liking the so called 'lasagne floor' on the merc. The innovation from them every year is unreal.
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Some nice arty shots today...
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https://www.racefans.net/2021/03/12/2021-pre-season-testing-day-one-in-pictures-02/
So are Mercedes sand-bagging or have they got problems?
Not looked too good today - gearbox issues for Bottas, and looking a handful underneath Hamilton.
Certainly didn’t read like sandbagging from the online updates. Let’s see where they are after the weekend; you’d be brave to bet against Merc getting on top of teething troubles fairly rapidly.
Great day for Red Bull, though: consistently at the top of the timing tables and the lap counter. McLaren and Alpine must be feeling pretty good, too, especially considering Alonso’s not had his turn yet.
Too early to start thinking that Hamilton, Verstappen, Alonso and maybe Perez and Ricciardo could all be in a solid fight for the title…?
Too early to start thinking that Hamilton, Verstappen, Alonso and maybe Perez and Ricciardo could all be in a solid fight for the title…?
yep, way too early
Why are some teams only running one car? Is it just to save money? Surely once all your staff and equipment are there anyway you are as well running both cars to maximise data?
yep, way too early
I know 🙂 …buy hey
Why are some teams only running one car?
Because them’s the rules this year: only one car on track during testing.
Why are some teams only running one car?
ALLof the teams are only running one car. It has been like that for years.
Some teams have times for both drivers, are they sharing a car?
Yes, one driver for the morning session and the second does the afternoon...
better morning for the mercs, the ferrari looks like a pig.
spoke too soon 😀
I know it’s only day 2 of testing and means nothing, but Danny R and Fernando at the top of the timings makes me happy.
I know it’s only day 2 of testing and means nothing, but Danny R and Fernando at the top of the timings makes me happy.
I'm really hoping the Renault, McLaren, Aston-Martin, and Ferrari are as close as last year so we can seen Alonso, Ricciardo, Leclerc, Sainz, and Vettel going at it.
End of an era - Murray Walker - a true legend of motorsport. Your enthusiasm made F1 for me.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-1-commentary-icon-murray-walker-dies-aged-97/5714734/
I’ve got a lump in my throat.
RIP Murray.
Ah sh!t...what a life tho
Oh no. Dusty here. 🙁
Oh no, i grew up listening to Murray’s Superlatives. RIP.
So....
No runn9ng for Hamilton today? Yet Bottas seems to be dialling in the car, so with so many more laps than Lewis is this advantages Bottas for Mercedes?
And are Mercedes really so "mid pack" as they seem?
it's testing so I dont think theres any real idea how much fuel they are carrying which I suppose is true for them all unless they are doing race runs.
No runn9ng for Hamilton today?
Where did you get this from? Hamilton was always due to be in the car this afternoon
https://the-race.com/formula-1/f1-testing-driver-line-up-2021/
Live testing stream on YouTube
Bugger. Just a teaser.
tomhoward
Full MemberDidn’t know Hope (and renthal) made F1 kit…
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Heh, cool!
Really nice lap from Yuki- car looks like it's on rails and the engine sounds like a proper racing car. Dying for the season to start now!
Anyone seen S3 of drive to survive yet? Episode 7 - Guenthers choice is a highlight...
Anyone seen S3 of drive to survive yet?
It's been a very cold, miserable, wet Sunday so binged the first six episodes in one sitting. Excellent stuff though very heavy on the drama...
You can see how much Covid restricted their access though - so much is missing- never even mentioned Lewis finishing the British GP on 3 wheels, or the big crash behind the safety car...
It's not a review of the year or a highlights show, though: it's a series of narratives showing the stories behind the racing. Everyone's already seen the on-track action, so unless it's part of a worthwhile story it won't necessarily be in.
I did raise an eyebrow at Steiner's negotiation meeting with 1&1 (some time prior to the Eifel GP if the episode's narrative is chronologically coherent) where the overalls were already prototyped with full UralKali and red/blue/white livery—though looking back now there were rumours that Mazepin was already a done deal around the time of the Eifel.
I watched the whole of Series 3 in two sittings....enjoyed it a lot, tho I find Christian Horner increasingly annoying...he seems to love himself on camera so much!
This is well worth a listen for anyone who likes to know the behind the scenes stuff. It's the ex-boss of Lotus talking about when Renault wanted to buy them. The whole thing is worth a listen but the Lotus/Renault stuff starts about 20-30 mins in.
Just seen that, very sad.
Sad news indeed, too young. Nice interview with him here...
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/january-2021/47/john-bute-from-van-driver-to-le-mans-winner-the-motor-sport-interview
I always wonder how he'd have done if it hadn't been Ayrton in the other car. Must be similar to Albon etc sat alongside verstappen, their talent must start making you doubt your own ability and once that's in your head the game is lost.
Edit - just read that interview and it seems very much like a parallel with the red bull "golden boy" situation.
Hadn't realised that Grosjean is now driving in Indycar.... the thought of him on a Super Speedway is pretty terrifying. Also as a result Russell is now director of the GPDA, seems impressive that your fellow drivers already trust you with the role when realatively young and inexperienced.
I thought Grosjean wasn't doing any of the oval races, only "street" ones? I could well be making that up
…. the thought of him on a Super Speedway is pretty terrifying.
He's doing all the road course races and 1 short oval race to see how he gets on. He's always said that the thought of racing on Super Speedways scares him.
Didn't Russell lob it in the wall last season while warming his tyres, maybe it's a pre-requisite for the role?;-)
It may be that all the other drivers know he's good and are hoping this will be a distraction.
Ah didn't know that about Grosjean, wasn't mentioned in the article i was looking at