Agree, nature punishes the stupid
It's stupid for an expat to live in Spain? How does that work?
Knowing str in real life he is far from daft
just mad then.
I think tired and emotional is a more accurate description. It's a regular theme.
It’s been fab. Soaked up some sun,
I bet you are a swarthy brute *swoons*
I think tired and emotional is a more accurate description. It’s a regular theme.
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How rude, I have no emotions!
I bet you are a swarthy brute *swoons*
I am, thanks. If grey haired old blokes can squeeze into that category 🤣
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That is brilliant, I will steal this pic, sorry.
Tbf, I'd take the last century cartoon cat for advice over the patronising melts I've had to endure over the past few days
It has to be done...
The thing is ....Boomers weren't children in the 70s so his joke loses some impact.
6/10 must try harder
over the patronising melts I’ve had to endure over the past few days
You do realise that you have proved comprehensively wrong don't you?
Or perhaps you don't, so let me help you. Earlier on this thread you said :
They can barely predict what the weather will be tomorrow, never mind days in advance
What they predicted actually happened and the UK experienced temperatures never before recorded. This afternoon the temperature locally for me hit 40 degrees and about a mile from me there were two wild fires out of control which caused extensive damage to the natural habitat.
This was repeated throughout the country and scenes of out of control wild fires which are generally associated with warm continental countries occurred in the UK.
The patronising melts were correct and you were wrong. HTH
And don't forget Darth Vader teaching kids how to cross the road.
I was always terrified of the frisbee stuck up a substation, kinda weird as my grandpa was an engineer for the Galloway hydro scheme and based at Tongland power station. I used to spend most weekends in there helping him with stuff as a kid.
Deeply saddening that even the weather is now politicised.
I know from chatting to the nurses that that they have found it an extremely hard day but many of the patients have had a real bad time of it.
It's a Neuro ward, never a good place to be at the best of times. Today wasn't the best of times.
I'm more mobile and and frankly "well" than many in here and I struggled today. I ended up in the MRI suite waiting room as the imaging equipment is always cooled, so free air con.
Many in here can't even get out of bed and it must have been a terrible day for them.
Yeah, but TAFKASTR has had a great time, so it's not all bad.
What happened to the promised overnight thunderstorm and rain? Still hot and muggy in my part of Cardiff, not helping my headache at all.
Thank cod for that freshening breeze that came along at ~1630 yesterday and knocked the temp back from 35C to 19C by ~2200, work has been horrendous since Saturday delivering in direct sunlight temps up to 39C and outside work I've had to do practically nothing but try and bring my temperature down, drinking loads of electrolyted ice cold water and regularly soaking a cooling towel. Reminded me of a family holiday around '88 in Portugal, where I got mild heat stroke, my optimum temp is ~15C and gets exponentially worse above ~20C.
Plaice in the sun... No thanks!
Plaice in the sun… No thanks!
In this heat the smell would be awful
Also LOL at the idea the 70s was somehow less full of "melts"
That's the issue with some people, as well as being wilfully ignorant of the facts they like to be bullies with their own opinions. Best of luck convincing the otherwise.
Fortunately no one lost their lives in the fires yesterday but some people lost their homes,hopefully with the drop in temperature and some rain forecast we won't see a repeat of of it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62232654
Back down to a coolish 25°c in the house this morning. Shame I've managed to get about 2 hours sleep for the last two nights so feeling knackered.
Weather looking better for the weekend with 24/26 but apparently we're heading south to see friends and it's back up to 27/29 there.
Never been happier to live in wet and windy Lochaber had two days of tolerable hot and sunny weather, then rained as soon as I put the washing out
Had a couple of hours on the bike last night and it waas glorious when the rain came. As soon as it hit the ground it evaporated but it kept my clothes damp and cool. Winner.
Plus some cool mammatus cloud formations. Don't normally see them.
I have cycled right thru the worst of the heat. I am pretty heat tolerant and did all the right things to manage it ( apart from being out in it)
I stll was on the verge of heatstroke at times.
^^You have one hell of a tan though tj.
Will you be allowed to re-enter Scotland?😉
I've never understood why some people enjoy needling and winding up others for sport.
^^ Me?
I don't think you mean me but want to check.
Definitely don't think I'm capable of winding up tj anyway.
I don’t think you mean me but want to check.
No, Molly means me 😉
That’s the issue with some people, as well as being wilfully ignorant of the facts they like to be bullies with their own opinions. Best of luck convincing the otherwise.
I think if you actually observe what goes on in most of the controversial threads on here, you'll find it's actually the hand wringers that do most of the bullying if you dare to have an opposing opinion
Correct yes I meant TAFKASTR in this case, but it applies to lots of other people as well generally. Usually of an older generation, thankfully.
Poopscoop. Classic cyclist tan. I suspect you maybe right tho. Hopefully my saltire will be enough they will let me back in😎
While 'one' STWer was sunning themselves and hopefully not getting skin cancer, some of us we're unable to work and won't be earning any money for the last 2 days.
Anyway, luckily most people are seeing the bigger picture and seeing that climate change is real and have had a wake up call, hopefully making adjustments to they way they live.
One of my friends has got rid of her car and is cycling everywhere.
Me, well I'm not frightened of knocking on car windows to politely ask a motorist to stop idling their car engine, yes I've had a bit of abuse, one calling me Hitler, (funny that Hitler wanted to murder people, while I want to save them). But amazingly most motorists don't know the rules of the highway code regarding engine idling and have been fine about the gentle reminder.
The thing is ….Boomers weren’t children in the 70s
This has had me scratching my head. I was born in the last year of the boomer generation and was 6 in 1970, so was no doubt saved from drowning in a flooded quarry by a terrifying figure carrying a scythe…..
Didn’t stay inside being miserable and afraid.
See the covid thread for more on this.
While ‘one’ STWer was sunning themselves and hopefully not getting skin cancer, some of us we’re unable to work and won’t be earning any money for the last 2 days.
I chose not to go to work and not get paid 🤷
See the covid thread for more on this
Yep that worked for me too - and I'm 99.9% certain I didn't affect anyone else either 🤷
I turned my hot water off on Sunday, to keep the upstairs cool. Since I was only having very cool showers I only used a bit. But by yesterday I think the tank had cooled to the ambient temps on the landing which were still around 30C. Free hot (well, warm) water!.
I was always terrified of the frisbee stuck up a substation
Relive your youthful night terrors:
I remember the police coming to my primary school to show us a video of how you’d lose your legs if you ever walked on a train track
I’d never been interested in walking on train tracks until we saw that video and later one kid told us it wasn’t true
That summer we played on the track at every opportunity 😂
I’d never been interested in walking on train tracks until we saw that video and later one kid told us it wasn’t true
We used to walk through the tunnels from Matlock to Matlock Bath. Was fun when a train came past 🤣
There was a chap on telly who had lost an arm and a leg whilst playing on railway tracks as a kid.
I went scuba diving with a chap that lost both legs plying on the railway when he was a kid.
what a melt!There was a chap on telly who had lost an arm and a leg whilst playing on railway tracks as a kid.
scuba diving with a chap that lost both legs plying on the railway
Was his name Bob?
Exactly! If they had told us you COULD lose your legs we may have listened, but by telling us that as soon as your foot touches there track you lose the leg once we found out it was a lie we just didn’t believe it at all
Of course as an adult I realise that’s stupid but at the time I was a kid and the adults were the ones being stupid by trying to scare a bunch of kids with stupid lies
Bit like the way media/governments treat people lately really, not specifically the heat thing but in general
was no doubt saved from drowning in a flooded quarry by a terrifying figure carrying a scythe…..
Not everyone was this week 🙁
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-62225540
Local to me.
Exactly! If they had told us you COULD lose your legs we may have listened, but by telling us that as soon as your foot touches there track you lose the leg once we found out it was a lie we just didn’t believe it at all
kind of depends on which track. the line next to my school was electrified and you definitely didn't want provide an earth path for that one..
You do realise that you have proved comprehensively wrong don’t you?
No, I speculated that the weather forecast may have been wrong, which it often is. In this case it was spot on. I'll take that my guess was inaccurate
about a mile from me there were two wild fires out of control which caused extensive damage to the natural habitat.
There are wildfires pretty much every single summer
The patronising melts were correct and you were wrong. HTH
The stay indoors with sheets over the windows or you'll surely die wasn't quite the case though, was it?
Was his name Bob?
😂
That was a joke right?
orecast may have been wrong, which it often is
Surprisingly, it's a lot more accurate than most people give credit. About 9/10 days by rigorous analysis.
A measure of our progress is that 92.5% of the Met Office’s next day temperature forecasts are accurate within 2 degree C and 92% of the Met Office’s next day wind speed forecasts are correct within 5 knots.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/what/accuracy-and-trust/how-accurate-are-our-public-forecasts
I'd say the warning system worked precisely as it should have. The vulnerable were forewarned, the challenge to public transport recognised and damage limited. Sadly this week people have still drowned getting into trouble in water.
Having spent a full summer at 40C, this felt little different, with the exception of limited aircon. But then I am not my father-in-law (80's, stroke and disabled).
There was a chap on telly who had lost an arm and a leg whilst playing on railway tracks as a kid.
Friend is a Paramedic (Hazardous response team) and has to retrieve the bodies after railway accidents. Apparently there are a lot of bits eg head with a bit of spinal cord attached, one hip with half a leg, shin over there, foot in a tree. All warm to the touch as well..
Doesn't sound much fun.
Exactly! If they had told us you COULD lose your legs we may have listened, but by telling us that as soon as your foot touches there track you lose the leg once we found out it was a lie we just didn’t believe it at all
See also: swimming in reservoirs will mean certain death from cold shock, underwater currents, sucked through a tube and churned up in a turbine, entangled in the ever present underwater algae/machinery.
See also: take ecstasy or acid and you will jump off a tall building believing you can fly whilst bleeding from every orifice.
Had great fun playing on the railway as yoofs. Even got nicked for it. Chased on many occasion. What we did in order to not get hit by trains is, when we heard or saw or felt a train coming we simply stepped out of the way. Usually at the last minute playing chicken though...
Does anyone know whether it was an urban myth? But we were always in fear of the 'police train'? A single engine that would sneak around containing Transport Police looking to ruin kids' fun.
No, I speculated that the weather forecast may have been wrong, which it often is. In this case it was spot on. I’ll take that my guess was inaccurate
Can you define "wrong" and "often"?
As per TiRed's post there's a huge amount of work that goes in to verifying a forecast. This combined with competition and collaboration between different Met services which has driven massive improvements in the past few decades, particularly driven by increased availability of high performance computing.
Here's a good article from NOAA (who are roughly equivalent to the Met Office for the US) about forecast accuracy.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62232654Yeah, everyone is being a snowflake, including the fire service.....
The stay indoors with sheets over the windows or you’ll surely die wasn’t quite the case though, was it?
Well no but that is because you just invented it.
The advice was be careful outside and try to avoid using certain forms of travel plus advice about how to keep a house cool eg shutting windows/blinds etc.
I remember the police coming to my primary school to show us a video of how you’d lose your legs if you ever walked on a train track
This film ? Shown on Nationwide at tea time.
I think I know which team dave was on. it explains a lot...
We use to play on the train tracks, then one of us got hit by a train. We stopped after that.
There are wildfires pretty much every single summer
Apart from the blitz and the great fire this is the first time 41 homes in London have been burnt to the ground in a single day.
So when (not if) we get longer periods of 40° heat this will become the norm.
Friend is a Paramedic (Hazardous response team) and has to retrieve the bodies after railway accidents.
Time was BR used to have a team that had to remove body parts from the underside of trains that had hit a suicide. Not the most pleasant of jobs.
I've also had the "fun" of a huge delay at Clapham Junction due to a poor soul stepping in front of the Gatwick Express. The station was shut whilst they cleaned the platforms of the remains.
There are wildfires pretty much every single summer
Are you familiar with the concepts of "more", "increasing trend" and "more extensive"?
Yep that worked for me too – and I’m 99.9% certain I didn’t affect anyone else either
I'm often have to remind myself of the Darwinian phrase "survival of the fittest", that if we had all the same traits and thinking there would be an awful less morons like this around as they would have been weeded out by now.
They may bleat that they look out for themselves without others intervention, but its collective responsibility of the rest that actually shields them from harm. As a simple example, you don't run people over in the street because they stepped into the roads without looking because they are staring at their phones.
Perhaps we should be a little more Darwinian and let the more stupid among us go...
How is it hotter in my office today than yesterday - muggier too!!? 🤷♂️🥵
El-bent, definitely +1 for becoming more Darwinian and removing the more stupid.
The stay indoors with sheets over the windows or you’ll surely die wasn’t quite the case though, was it?
I think you should ask yourself why you are distorting what was said just so that you can ridicule it. There might be some knee-jerk response here to reading this stuff, that you should probably start examining; or you might just be winding us up in which case you should also have a word with yourself and ask why you enjoy it and why you think that's a good thing to be doing.
ask why you enjoy it and why you think that’s a good thing to be doing.
The answer to which is pretty obvious....
Apart from the blitz and the great fire this is the first time 41 homes in London have been burnt to the ground in a single day.
So when (not if) we get longer periods of 40° heat this will become the norm.
The problem with logic and facts is that people just ignore them if they don't fit their narrative.....
My primary was by a railway track. We were forever being told if the dangers. Then the police came and told us that we had to stay away as detonators had been found on the track, even showed us pictures so we'd know to stay away. Must have been 100 kids on the tracks at lunchtime, with a half dozen staff trying to herd us off.
Some people here really do take very different things from public health guidance
I believe the IPCC has reported that heatwaves pose the biggest threat to human life of all climate hazards.
The problem with logic and facts is that people just ignore them if they don’t fit their narrative…..
"Maffs and fiziks are just boring tho innit 'cos I'm a geezer and love the heat, you're all pussies" - Dave the not-very-sharp Blade 2022
He's just winding everyone up. Probably sat on his caravan toilet now laughing at you all.
ElShalimo - there's loads more drivel like that from Dave; he knows exactly what he's posting - and why.
It's just a laff, innit.
Provocative and a wind-up merchant.
Provocative and a wind-up merchant.
I knew that but I prefer the Mark Radcliffe misquote "he's an idiot savant, without the savant bit"
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Heat deaths 800. Cold deaths 60 thousand.
I would say cheap heating is more important than trying to control global temp when you are relying on the cooperation of the rest of the world.
I would say cheap heating is more important than trying to control global temp when you are relying on the cooperation of the rest of the world.
They don't have to be mutually exclusive of course, improving the insulation in our homes would help with both.
They don’t have to be mutually exclusive of course, improving the insulation in our homes would help with both.
Yep and it's something the government should have been focusing on all summer with the gas price rises coming in winter !
2 days at record temps saw fire brigades with their busiest days since ww2
The likelihood of these events increasing means we will have to start planning more for them, which adds costs and requires leadership, something the UK is severely lacking
The same models that were throwing 40C 'outlier' events at the start of the month are also showing other outlier events for August -as thecaptain pointed out no probability attached to this and likelihood remains v low, the specific triggers required for it quite rare but global temp rise has made it possible.
https://twitter.com/stives1985/status/1549675634221277185?t=jFkcmUmzg1Oa-GlON1pdqg&s=19
StirlingCrispin : Relive your youthful night terrors:
Yep......still gives me the Heebie jeebies.