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DD - as part of "the contract", Article 27:J, I have to start endless threads that can ultimately be about anything to keep me within my limits for posting nonsense on other peoples threads.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 4:28 pm
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TSY.

The difference between Chicks and Dudes was pointed out also, by iDave and his diet.
IIRC, he said that the Ladies are expected to get to around 15-18 percent BF ?, on the initial diet.
However, I stress IIRC, as iDave normally rocks up and corrects me.

What I found most fascinating was the chemical model for locking / unlocking fat from its cells.

I'm really not sure what application this info has for you.
Aren't you super lean now anyway ?.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 4:31 pm
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[i]DD - as part of "the contract", Article 27:J, I have to start endless threads that can ultimately be about anything to keep me within my limits for posting nonsense on other peoples threads. [/i]

Isn't there a mandatory EU quoter for that ?.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 4:32 pm
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Yeah, I know women aren't (or shouldn't be) looking to get as lean as blokes but it's the strategy required for getting to the goal I'm interested in.

I've not read the link to his book as it's not working here.

I'm really not sure what application this info has for you

Genuinely... I'm just interested in it all. My metabolism has gone pretty mental of late, I don't know if it'll stay this way, whether it's complete luck or if there's a science behind it all that I'm yet to fully appreciate.

FWIW... bar all the cake I've been topping up my diet with this year, my staple meals probably aren't dissimilar to your own... even making scotch eggs this week a la Heston though.


 
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Tentatively goes to search out Heston Blooming-Heck's recipe


 
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If you think you're "over training" you're just training badly 😆


 
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Solo - http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/heston-blumenthal/scotch-eggs-recipe


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 4:49 pm
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[i]If you think you're "over training" you're just training badly[/i]

I'm not really sure I understand this training stuff, yet alone competition.

I know I've got to get my pumper going occassionally.

But, ultimately.
Isn't competition just a demonstration of the genes you were born with ?.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 4:50 pm
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TSY.

Aye, found it.
Bit of extra faff, compared to the ones I make and obviously being an iPedant, I miss out the bread crumbs.
😳

Never thought people insisted on the yolk still being liquidus.
😯

EDIT:

TSY.
I sent you more SSF stuff.
Just the 2nd part.


 
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Wunundred 😀


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 4:55 pm
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compared to the ones I
Link...?

I'll have a read. The Mrs is very lean too, but her view on intermittent fasting is different to mine. I hope you haven't jsut helped her win an argument... 😉


 
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I'm not really sure I understand this training stuff

You need to differentiate between exercising and training, if there's no end-point or goal, it's not training.


 
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[i]Link...?[/i]

[url] http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-scotch-eggs/ [/url]
😐

Not to be confused with Cave eggs...

EDIT:
[i]I hope you haven't jsut helped her win an argument[/i]

What was / is your view ?.


 
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Fast whilst you sleep, exercise and eat within 2 hours of waking.

Mainly because I become an irritable bastard after much more time without food.


 
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[i]You need to differentiate between exercising and training, if there's no end-point or goal, it's not training.[/i]

That'll be it then.
Thank you.
🙂

I have no competative goal, no event to enter and [i]win[/i].

Obviously I'd just lose and by doing so, demonstrate that I was born with inferior genes to the fitness dreadlord who beat me.


 
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[i]Mainly because I become an irritable bastard after much more time without food. [/i]

I have noticed a change in mood when I become properly hungry and can't help wondering if thats Grehlin related.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 5:05 pm
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I've always called it a sugar low...


 
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I have no competative goal, no event to enter and win.

So just "normal exercise" then,
mix up what you do, when you do it, rest when tired and have fun 😀

Oh, and remember to start a forum thread every time you visit the gym, have a swim, ride a bike or eat some cake......


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 5:13 pm
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Oh, and remember to start a forum thread every time you visit the gym, have a swim, ride a bike or eat some cake......

This is very important. You can start them after running too. Or visiting the loo. Or just when bored.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 5:14 pm
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[i]I've always called it a sugar low... [/i]

I'd attibute that to bonking or feeling generally lethargic, esp after exercise.
I think this will be when the glycogen is depleted.
No glycogen, no ATP ?.

Grhelin release is in response to an empty stomach (different signal), not sure its blood sugar related / senstitive.
Being a hormone, it can have an effect on thought, temprement ?.

So, eating something low GI, may maintain a low insulin level and allow the process described in the mail to subsist ?.

Where as eating something high GI will produce the insulin response I'm learning about ?.

Just an idea.


 
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This is very important.

Of course; if no-one knows you've done it, it doesn't count 🙂


 
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Solo - my reference to 'sugar low' was more a tribute to my own and more general ignorance... I don't get them half as frequently eating a more sensible low GI diet.

Hilldodger... you should be grateful you're not on the other forum I go on. I start threads there about the fact that I've started threads here*.

*This is a lie. I don't cheat on STW.


 
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[i]So just "normal exercise" then,
mix up what you do, when you do it, rest when tired and have fun

Oh, and remember to start a forum thread every time you visit the gym, have a swim, ride a bike or eat some cake......
[/i]

😆

Yes.
I have a routine.
Bike in the gym, aerobic activity.
Then some resistance work in the form of weights.

So, back OT, I have an ache in my right shoulder, sort of a cross between cramp and as if I've pulled something.
AND
I have slight discomfort on the outside of my left elbow.

Am I injured through over / incorrect training ?.

Seriously, I have my gym kit in the car.
Should I go to the gym tonight in light of ^^^

If I do need to rest.
How is that controlled ? wrt to limitation of movements and duration of rest period ?.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 5:21 pm
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When do you feel the pain in your elbow?

I used to have something similar... notice it most if carrying a heavy shopping basket.

Trained through it and starting using a trolley instead.

Have you considered just doing legs tonight?


 
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So, back OT, I have an ache in my right shoulder, sort of a cross between cramp and as if I've pulled something.
AND
I have slight discomfort on the outside of my left elbow.

Should I go to the gym tonight

Go, just do some legwork and/or core so you're not stressing the injury...


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 5:26 pm
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[i]When do you feel the pain in your elbow?[/i]

Going a bit mad with Curls perhaps ?
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[i]legwork and/or core[/i]

I always hit the gym bikes.
I do not want to increase the size of my leg muscles though.
I set the machine to 10 out of 25, on the resistance.
Spin at anywhere around 80 - 100.
HRM is very suspect on these machines, so try to go by feel.
Do between 30 - 60 mins, more 60 mins lately.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 5:32 pm
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You won't grow massive legs doing some light leg work...

Just do body weight stuff this evening.

Deep squats.
Lunges.
Step Ups
Step Downs.
Explosive Jumps
And a load of core stuff... you'll be all good and the additional range of motion you move your legs through will be great for you.

I was going to guess at bicep curls... ditch them. Waste of time IMO.


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 5:36 pm
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[i]I was going to guess at bicep curls... ditch them. Waste of time IMO.[/i]

...... Now you put it like that, theres not much reason.
Its true.
😯

OK, I'm off then to see if I can actually get to use any of this equipment.
Some people seem to do about 6 sets on one exercise and take over an hour, while also chatting 🙁


 
Posted : 15/05/2012 5:40 pm
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Just ask them if you can use the machine between sets.

If they say no. Touch their bum.


 
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Oi Yeti I want a word with You 👿


 
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I just logged off to go home Tazzy, seeing as it's you, I'm back... what do you want? 5 mins and I'm out of here only got to send back some comments on a presentation see...


 
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I tried your Idea of "make up sex" from the belly fat thread.......It's rubbish I've now got this

[img] http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMXflFurEJXVyfSwneVpO2jXXYyljg_RGGJ6-m6HbQ8wzGAN4UOYPNyfoIbQ [/img]

stuck up my

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It's the last time I listen to your bloomin advice!!


 
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😆 x4 Great minds! I was thinking something similar when I typed it!

Just tell the Dr you slipped, and be thankful it's not the sort that's attached to a dog.


 
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LOL. FOOL!! xx

edit: why would a dog have a sheriff badge unless it's

[img] [/img]

which is wrong on many levels!


 
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Bye x x


 
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[i]the belly fat thread[/i]

Groans

No, don't go there.

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 16/05/2012 7:40 am
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How did your visit to the gym go last night Solo?


 
Posted : 16/05/2012 8:46 am
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Day off for me today.


 
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Is that in the spreadsheet Darcy?


 
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Is that in the spreadsheet Darcy?

Oh yes. 😀


 
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my deltiods felt over trained this morning. but its worth it because i'm wearing a top today that i bought as a "only when you're looking good enough" motivational gift for myself. it cost me £2.95 from a charity shop so i'm pleased i haven't wasted my money and finally am able to wear it 😀


 
Posted : 16/05/2012 9:53 am
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TSY, DD.

Good morning chaps.
🙂

Gym, was very busy.
I joined around Sept Last year.
I watched as the gym got busier around Xmad.
When I guess people were [i]burning off[/i] Their Dietary endulgences.

The gym then went slightly quieter through to Feb, but now its gone ballistic.
I never really believed that people would think that 8 weeks in the gym will get them into shape for their Hols sometime in July or August.

Which, I assume is the reason they are there.

For me.
It was Bike then deadlifts, finished off with pull-ups.
I realize that some will look upon my 1 3/4 hrs in the gym as [i]light-weight[/i].
But I need to be home at a resonable time.
I've been in the gym until 9:30pm and I do not find this to be ideal, for me.

TSY.
How did the morning session go ?.
What did you do ?.
Are you going to try what was outlined in that stuff I sent to you ?, if so.
How long will you give it ?.

EDIT:
GM to Phil too.
🙂


 
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my deltiods felt over trained this morning.

#ihavethestrangest

i'm wearing a top today

#ohdear

only when you're looking good enough

#aaahhhhblessedrelief


 
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i'll send you a photo through teh facebooks deadly, do you want the pout or the "oh my god its my surprised face as i didnt know i was about to take a photo of myself" pose?

Morning solo, 1 3/4hours is more than i do at the gym, apart from spinning i dont do any cardio at the gym... its basically:

monday - 30 mins weights, 30 mins stretching
tuesday - 10 minutes weights, spinning
wednesday - 30 mins weights, 30 mins stretching
thursday - 10 minutes weights, spinning
friday - 30 mins weights, 30 mins stretching

i dont give my upper body any rest days during the week, thats what weekends are for. the rest of my cardio is from riding 2-3 times a week with friends

so you probably do more in one gym session that i do in 3!


 
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I pushed myself a bit harder last night at the gym and did a few more press ups in a T position and am a bit sore this morning.

On my training plan tonight is either unstructured jumps or a tempo time trial which sounds erm, interesting - a 20minute warm up then 3 miles with hr 10b below zone5a. Got the women's road race championships on Sunday so i shall mostly be doing active recovery and or resting after tonight 8)


 
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