Full single market access until March 2021
jamba, does "access" mean we get to sell what goods and services we want, work where we want, transfer money how we want, but the rest of the EU can't reciprocate? Cos I thought we were taking back control to stop all these greasy foreigners coming in to the country as of March 2019. The single market is a market of goods, services, capital and labour isn't it? Thatcher's brainchild, you must be a fan.
[quote=igm ]Trump will happily sign any deal that is one sided in his favour.
If he wants to deal we should run.
this the idea that Trump, who i sbust ripping up deals across the world and saying everything must favour america will do a deal with us is as optimistic as its is repulsive
His tweets mean very few folk, even in the tory party, want to be his partner so they do change something . TBH you have to be on the very right wing of the tory party [ or the left of Britain First] to still wish for thisTrump will sign a trade deal with the the UK as that’s good business and a few Tweets aren’t going to change that
THEFERRET.SCOT Around 90 per cent of Legatum’s funding comes from the Legatum Foundation, which is controlled by Christopher Chandler, a Dubai-based private hedge fund billionaire, originally from New Zealand who made much of his fortune in post-Communist Russia.
Now why might someone who made money from the collapse of the Soviet Union be interested in the UKs relationship to the EU. What might he stand to gain from a Hard Brexit???
Legatum stinks...big time
As I’ve said before I do wonder if I’m turning into a Brexit conspiracist theory loony.
But when you’ve got donations of £675k being given to 23 year olds and no ones going WTF you do start questioning that something’s very fkd about this and your not in on the joke.
(Sneaky edit with age lowering an donation highering)
Did the Brexshiteers promise to wipe out student loans in one go?
Could the thickos spell Legatum or even pronounce it?
THM - you ask the questions why?
To discover the answers to these intriguing questions
You may be more intrigued by them than I.
Sadly it looks like arm waving distraction with little point looking at it from here
PS - I assume you tried google first. 😉
Why would I google those questions?
To discover the answers to these intriguing questions
😀
Have you been on the sauce Thm?
The WTO fantasists like legatum & jambs, are influencing a small number of the more swivel eyed Tories but hopefully the more sensible heads are prevailing
They are... hence the progress that the bullies denied could happen
We shouldnt give the nutters the oxygen they crave
Did the Brexshiteers promise to wipe out student loans in one go?
Not that they did but what the **** does that have to do with the leave campaign gifting some random youngster over half a million quid?
Nothing so why did you feed him?
Loving watching the news with the old giffers who voted for Brexit moaning because their care costs are going up
But there’s been a reduction in the amount of immigration into the UK
Obviously these two things are entirely unconnected
Brexit is bloody brilliant isnt it?
But there’s been a reduction in the amount of immigration into the UK
Brexit is bloody brilliant isnt it?
yep!
They are... hence the progress that the bullies denied could happen
Some of us still got plenty of faith in the Tories ability to **** the whole thing up
Deviant likes the oldies having to fork out more cash.
Probably also likes the fact that due to Brexit his (I’m assuming male) taxes will go up with no corresponding rise in services - in fact services will probably get worse.
As deviant illustrates some turkeys just love voting for Xmas!
Well if you’re going to become a tax haven, the common peasantry are going to have to be grateful for multi billionaires wanting their super- yachts built in the UK
STFU and celebrate ‘taking back control’
'Deviant' has a long term plan to fleece the NHS for all I can get during my career, then leave with a golden handshake and lovely public sector pension....to somewhere like Australia where I already have friends and the county seems to have a better handle on immigration than us.
Lovely.
I'll leave you losers in awesome multicultural UK
Easy now deviant, someone might construe that as a) a little xenophobic and b) a bit anti-British.
You could easily upset both sides. (PS the EU might well love you for trying to mess up the UK though)
The EU are welcome to this dump, well everything sitting inside the m25 anyway.
It's a lost cause, anyone young enough save your money and leave....last time I was in Australia it was acceptable to have stickers in the back window of your car saying "f##k off, we're full"....that's my kind of country. In the UK the police would have you down for some kind of 'hate crime' or other made up nonsense.
They've got many many times our land mass but just a 25 million population...and they love it and want to keep it that way, I wonder what's it's like to still take pride in your country and enjoy free speech!?
ah this sort of ranting explains your "concerns" on the trump thread and freedom of speech is not the freedom to be a nazi.
As I said on there even racists realise they cannot say it openly so we get these sort of rants and attacks on islam instead
Poor wee little englanders 🙄
Dude, you do know that Australia has about 3x the number of immigrants than the UK, right?
Apart from the illegals most come through a tougher immigration system and are net contributors...plus the size of the country means I can buy my own space and not have to interact with them.
Much like I do on a smaller scale in Wales currently....when I have the funds I'll do like my old crew mate has done and buy 75 acres with a fishing lake and motocross track and drink beer in the sunshine laughing at what a dump the UK became.
deviant - Member
Apart from the illegals most come through a tougher immigration system and are net contributors...plus the size of the country means I can buy my own space and not have to interact with them.
Australia welcomes a huge number on short term young person visa's with little or no checks.
But please carry on being afraid of nice normal people who are moving for good reasons. Written as an immigrant to another country where I was welcomed.
Good to see the OBR bringing some common sense perspective to the “bill debate” yesterday
deviant would you consider yourself a typical Brexy?
I can buy my own space and not have to interact with them.
they have more to fear from people like you than you do from people like them
Why do folk type things like that then get all upset when people suggest they are racists?
After the OBR now the boss of Unicredit arguing that London will remain the major hub for European finance
Bad days for gloom merchants
Again, you're being slightly free with your choice of words (no massive surprise), but lets see just for shits and giggles what he actually said.
[i]"will remain an important centre for expertise"[/i]
No quite a resoundingly upbeat soundbite.
Bad days for [s]gloom merchants[/s] for folk who can't quote properly...
But a great day for those who like to be be condescending.
Did he say how much it was going to fall by compared to if we dont leave when describing that only a few functiosn woud leave ?
TBH when you are going its not as negative as you said it would be, and celebrating that as a victory, you are getting desperate to be optimistic.
I suspect Mitty industry wont be binning the contingency plans[ its still sensible right?] based on this latest position piece will they?
Which is the same thing if you understand why London dominates EU wholesale financing
London has a unique set of expertise - the very word that is used in most analysis
Quote properly and understand - double whammy. Bad days for doomsday merchants still
“the major” versus “an important” - discuss.
Normally ”will remain an important” is what people say right after the say “well clearly it’s not going to be the preeminent place it was, but”.
And I’ve just remembered wat Deviant‘s demands for space to live reminded me of. Living space. Hmmm.
Which is the same thing, blah blah blah excuses excuses
then why go to all the trouble to misquote, if the meaning's the same..?
Bad days for [s]doomsday merchants still[/s] for people trying desperately to cover their arses, "oh teh ironing", as the kids are fond of saying, given what your talking about on the JC thread
Dont you be bringing the actual meaning of words into things now
Everyone knows Major[ pre eminent] and important [ one of many]are not the same
I imagine THM would hate for his role at work to be down graded from Major to just an important one.
Dude, you do know that Australia has about 3x the number of immigrants than the UK, right?
Australia has a population density of 3.1 people per sq km.
England has a population density of 395 people per sq km.
So yeah, if you're arguing for an immigration/emmigration policy that moves us closer to Oz's population density I'd be all in favour.
Much ado about nothing
😉
Moan, moan, moan
Moan, moan, moan
Moaning about immigrants (see oob & deviants posts)
Is what won brexies their vote, it's obviously a powerful tool !
I have no idea why folk think its little englanders who are the racist ones. PS the country is the UK - the DUP wont like you saying thatEngland has a population density of 395 people per sq km
As for comparing our population density to a barren desert wasteland where most of it unsettalable can I advise you to **** off and pass the stringent tests you so support and go there .. You wont be missed
THM has just become a full on troll now shooting himself in the foot, offering no defence then hiding behind humour - he ha sgone the full edinburgh now. It pitiful to watch. I never agreed whit you but you used to actually have some credibility now you are just a tiresome troll we all keep feeding
The best you can be is inaccurate in your post and the worst is a liar. Its up to you how you deal with it but winks and smileys is unlikely to help your credibility or your honesty
Moan, moan, moan
I know right, truth and accuracy, who needs 'em... 😆
You don’t nick clearly
Kimbers - actually deviants stuff was worth moaning about or ignoring!! True
Richpenny: Dude, you do know that Australia has about 3x the number of immigrants than the UK, right?
comparing our population density to a barren desert wasteland where most of it unsettalable can I advise you to **** off
