Professionally offended again, how sad.
What a very odd question.
not offended no. Not surprised either
If that is an odd question you must spend your working day being constantly surprised then!!
If there was no scenario where leaving the UK was the prudent solution to a bank then I don't think you were asking enough questions or going deep enough. But then again it would go against every thing you have dribbled here and goes with all the questions you don't like to answer so not expecting you to admit to anything.
Here is a look at some key announcements since the June 2016 Brexit vote.
-HSBC: moving 1,000 jobs from London to Paris, where it will set up its EU headquarters.
-Lloyd’s of London: moving 100 jobs from London to Brussels; EU headquarters from London to Dublin, Ireland.
-JPMorgan: “hundreds” of jobs from London to Dublin, Frankfurt, Germany, and Luxembourg.
-Barclays: 150 jobs from London to Dublin, where it will set up EU headquarters.
-Bank of America: moving EU headquarters from London to Dublin.
-UBS: under 1,000 jobs from London to EU offices, including Frankfurt.
-Moneygram: moving EU headquarters from London to Brussels.
-European Medicines Agency: moving from London to Amsterdam, including 890 jobs.
-European Banking Authority: moving from London to Paris, including 180 jobs.
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Looks like 3000+ probably well paid jobs moved back then - I guess none of them actually moved or are just running away cause they don't want to make money.
And yes we know they will leave people behind and not an entire decamp but people have left.
That’s great research. But of no relevance to what either Jim or I said. Even odder
What bad taste
Oh, pleeeeeeeeeease. Not the hand-wringing faux ‘offended’ line, surely?
That’s rubbish.
This doesn't make good reading.
I get paid to know what banks are and should do.
If they ask for evidence, do you give them links?
Banks like any other businesses get it wrong sometimes.
and don’t trust a bank CEO who is not aware of what the potential outcomes are and has not prepared for all of them. But don’t worry. They will be few and far between
Bobbins. History is littered with CEOs who failed to appreciate the potential outcomes or failed to prepare for them.
2007-8ish?
Or does it only apply to Brexit.
Sure pondo but the fees are scandalous
Don't know why any of you are still taking THM seriously. The chances of anyone with any economic chops misunderstanding the govt's top secret economic analysis of brexit so egregiously is pretty slim.
Broken record there captain. No bad news to exaggerate today? Was Macron BSing like Barnier?
misunderstanding the govt’s top secret economic analysis of brexit so egregiously is pretty slim.
Was that the one with cornflakes or coco pops?
No it's the one you cannot find on the web.
Well when they make up their minds let us know. Sorry unless it's the EU version....
Maybe we can do it Big Brother Style?
People of the UK do you want to save?
Bankers
Farmers
Fishermen
Teachers
Nurses
Polish Builders
or Theresa May
Worst "Marry / Shag / Kill" game ever.
No it’s the one you cannot find on the web.
LOL @ THM. I think he means "the one I can't find and am too scared to click on when it's given to me" as I posted a couple of days ago:
I dare you to have a look thm!
Again? I have it printed out and annotated since it was published. Breaking the broken pieces of the record now.
surprised you got past the first bullet point and it’s stated objective. Did you read that?
Pfft - experts. Who needs em. What the government needs is internet keyboard warriors to tell thim it'll all be fine and that this sort of thing is just scaremongering by people who aren't planning properly while the grown ups do their work.
I have it printed out and annotated since it was published
Thank you Bob. You should try it too. There are better versions than captains sunmary though
Pfft – experts. Who needs em. What the government needs is internet keyboard warriors to tell thim it’ll all be fine and that this sort of thing is just scaremongering by people who aren’t planning properly while the grown ups do their work
There are are plenty of companies looking to slash workers rights or move operations outside of the Uk on the pretence of difficulties in business operations. Yesterday I was speaking to a friend who said where he works was looking to drop annual vacation to 14 days and was very surprised to see the current legislation showing the legal min of 28 days.
whatever happens many people are going to get shafted.
So where's the 24.4 figure then? You said you were quoting the govt's research. Citation needed, as they say on wikipedia.
Oh so you didn’t get past the bullet point?
Don’t know why any of you are still taking THM seriously. The chances of anyone with any economic chops misunderstanding the govt’s top secret economic analysis of brexit so egregiously is pretty slim.
Not at all, at least the bullet points.
The real issue is ACCEPTING ...
The whole thing reminds me of an arguments with a young child... like trying to explain the family pet is dead but they continue to argue .. what if we take it to the vet, perhaps it's just sleeping ...
I am puzzled that economic analysis that is widely available on the web and which we have all (mid)read is labelled top secret. Still fits the rest of the train of thought in the same post
Yesterday I was speaking to a friend who said where he works was looking to drop annual vacation to 14 days and was very surprised to see the current legislation showing the legal min of 28 days.
Of course once we're out of the EU we can overturn that and have some new employment laws that'll mean 14 days leave is a luxury.
I am puzzled that economic analysis that is widely available on the web and which we have all (mid)read is labelled top secret.
Well if that's any indication of the attention you've given it it explains a lot. "Official - Sensitive" is a long way from Top Secret.
Yesterday I was speaking to a friend who said where he works was looking to drop annual vacation to 14 days and was very surprised to see the current legislation showing the legal min of 28 days.
Get everyone to work 2 weeks more and 2.4% improvement in GDP, so reducing the economic impact by 30%! Probably buried in one of the DEXEU white papers somewhere...
Indeed pretty silly to call it Top Secret and to misquote it’s conclusions when it’s available for all
French Minister for Europe quashing suggestions that Macrons likely to offer big concessions to the UK on R4 this morning
EU were never gonna let UK collect customs etc for them, so its back to border chaos
so if chequers is dead, what bext?
Exactly as Varoufakis warned. The Eu tactic is to say one thing and then immediately deny it. It helps to ensure that no meaningful negotiations take place. See Barnier post few pages back
better get ready
Not really the 'leak' as reported to The Times of elements of his speech next month from an anonymous source just said that he didnt wanta no deal & wanted a close relationship with the EU
likewise Barnier said "a partnership with Britain such as has never been with any other third country" and everyone got excited
but he also said at the same time "It cannot be built to the detriment of who we are. The internal market, the home market, is indeed our most important asset ... We respect all the red lines of the United Kingdom. They do not want to abide by the rules of the court of justice, they do not want to follow our legal framework, they do not want to pay, they do not want freedom of movement. All of these are the cornerstones of the single market and the EU. So we have to preserve and protect what makes us.”
which is pretty much what theyve said from day 1!
look beyond the headline THM
I did which is why I wasnt taken in by it. The coincidence was interesting ie the timing but the bluff was also a risk. See my post.
Get ready
Get ready
For what? The gun we are holding to our own head to go off and hope to be consoled by Barnier having to have his suit dry cleaned?
Trouble is are we holding the gun blazing saddles or Budd Dwyer style
misquote it’s conclusions
Which bit were you quoting THM?
Barnier said “a partnership with Britain such as has never been with any other third country”
Barnier said “a partnership with Britain such as has never been with any other third world country”
FTFY.
And at no point when bluffing do you shout look at this bluff it's going to work...
Still the odd person on here that thinks Brexit's a good idea eh?!! Well, I guess the owners of the newspapers that don't pay their full share of tax still think its a good idea.
https://www.shoutoutuk.org/2017/11/14/at-what-point-do-we-admit-brexit-was-about-tax-evasion/
Hopefully at no point. You expect thickos and racists to understand the ins and outs of corporate taxation?!?
You expect thickos and racists to understand the ins and outs of corporate taxation?!?
Keep it simpme then, this lot are not paying their fair share of tax.
Who the thIckos? Why should they pay as much as the metropolitan elites? You are a so hard on these poor people. Whatever happened to empathy with comrades?
I expect you to answer a straightforward question about your source when you claimed to quote Govt research which on the face of it refutes your claim.
At least, I expected you to, originally. It seems increasingly clear that you can't.
No it doesn’t. How many pieces of broken record do you need
We’re headed for another emotional Sunday “STFU” if this doesn’t stop now.
Does a labour membership card* come with that? Lifetime or just five years?
*constituency - don’t want any ovetcounting of Jezzas success with new members
no doomsday news from press conference?
Try the other thread, when you’ve calmed down.
I’m calm, relaxed and prepared. You? Just a pity alpine rain killed the ride though
choice between le figaro’s coverage of macron’s pension reforms, peston’s WTF, Poverty Safari (why did they vote perhaps?) or STW and your deadly wit?
Did we do '1/3 of British businesses say they are being negatively affected by Brexit' ?
Did we do ‘1/3 of British businesses say they are being negatively affected by Brexit’ ?
Typical bitching and whining from them. They just need to get behind it.
Did we do ‘1/3 of British businesses say they are being negatively affected by Brexit’ ?
I have confidential papers that say they just haven’t prepared properly. I’d link to them but y’know... *taps nose.*
So is it 'let's call the whole thing off' or BRINO/vassal state ?
Our glorious leaders don't seem to be doing anything other than dad dancing in Africa at the moment...
As a dad I object to that dancing comment MattyF.
Those are just the dreadful traitorous businesses that are stopping our glorious govt from negotiating successfully. We'll be better off without them.
Still the odd person on here that thinks Brexit’s a good idea eh?!! Well, I guess the owners of the newspapers that don’t pay their full share of tax still think its a good idea.
https://www.shoutoutuk.org/2017/11/14/at-what-point-do-we-admit-brexit-was-about-tax-evasion/
Always illuminating to see how much bollocks is written on the internet, but this is right up there. I particularly enjoyed the paragraph that says George Osborne introduced the CFC regime in 2013 to help multinationals avoid tax. This is a curious conclusion to reach when it was introduced in the 1980s and it is a anti avoidance regime designed to stop companies hording money offshore. The delicious irony is that the single thing that caused the regime its biggest problems was the ECJ decision in the Cadbury Schweppes case.
As a dad I object to that dancing comment
I do apologise for stereotyping you IGM, I'm confident that you have some sick moves or throw some solid shapes ..
Or is it sick shapes and solid moves .. I can never tell.
😀
Cor, don't know why THM was absent for a while but the rest seems to have upset him. Whole load of built up tension being released ATM and a bit like when my son has so much to tell me that he can't get the words out quick enough.
throw some solid shapes
Well yes of course, if you’re defecating in disgust... 😂
Well yes of course, if you’re defecating in disgust…
Actually where has the self-soiled one disappeared to?
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<div class="bbp-reply-content">So is it ‘let’s call the whole thing off’ or BRINO/vassal state ?
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Seems to be the case but with added bonus option of crash out with no deal.
The 4th choice is<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;"> basic Canada style fta but that doesn't resolver Irish border issues & nowhere near benefits we have now regards frictionless trade for manufacturing etc</span>
Who the thIckos? Why should they pay as much as the metropolitan elites? You are a so hard on these poor people. Whatever happened to empathy with comrades?
No it’s the one you cannot find on the web.
So not thicko's? More a bunch of people who beleive what they want to hear and are not concerned that their source say's don't worry, I/we have a fantastic plan only you just need to trust us...
I was thinking they made a movie but then I realised I was just thinking of Titanic... "sure we have the lifeboats ... we could show you but you know they are stored away".... "what iceberg?" ... and of course the "no of course we are not going to sink, keep playing"....
A while back I got an email from a Big Hitter saying I should stop implying THM was a teacher at a second rate private school, as he was in fact something BIG in THE CITY and was really quite IMPORTANT.
I’d link to them but y’know… *taps nose.*
Ah the Grimsby Times has exclusive rights.
he was in fact something BIG in THE CITY and was really quite IMPORTANT.
A sort of glorified betting shop manager, then...
A sort of glorified betting shop manager, then…
Don't be too hasty, looking at the style of grammar, it could have been a message from the Donald.
Although it's out of character for him to email rather than tweet..
Well let’s hope they don’t believe what is being peddled here in past couple of days
1. There will be a 10% drop in GDP
2. Kids will no longer be able to work overseas
3 Brexit is all about ensuring corporates can dodge tax
4. All the bankers have gone/banks have not prepared for the loss of passporting rights
5 the U.K. is bribing African states
i think we know (1) whose scared (2) why they’re scared and (3) who can read and interpret basic facts. And they call leavers thickos?!?
where’s private Fraser when you need him
1. There will be a 10% drop in GDP
You really are not very good at detecting sarcasm, are you. Either that or you're wilfully misrepresenting what's been said in order to have an argument.
I wrote that "fact", I made it up as an example of how easy it was to present any old shit as fact without providing sources (which is what you were doing and somewhat ironically just did again).
5 the U.K. is bribing African states
That was one of mine too, you've just spun what I said completely out of context in order to attack it. Again.
Are you so stuck for arguments that you've got to twist peoples' words all the time? If you're going to debate something, at least keep it honest. Otherwise it's just an exercise in tedium and we might as well just respond to your posts with "no they didn't" every time.
2. Kids will no longer be able to work overseas
If freedom of movement with the EU is list it will be significantly harder for everyone. What with increased scrutiny for US and Aus visas if you have international aspirations it is a troubling time. No one has said it won’t be possible just harder..
3 Brexit is all about ensuring corporates can dodge tax
Any time people arguing against taxes taxes are the same people arguing for something else always leads to questions. Personally I don’t believe JRM is in this for the good of the working man..
5 the U.K. is bribing African states
This has been standard practice along with bribing Middle East states. You give “aid” to a country to boost the sales of some tech from your own country.. Hell even housing companies give inducements in the form of parks and facilities to win county building contracts. For someone who professes to be a business expert you must not have seen much of it...
Keep it honest!! Cougar your sarcasm continues. Bravo. From the master of lying about what others say too. And you did again there too.
1. There will be a 10% drop in GDP
Hard Exit - 10% drops looks on the high side but not impossible
2. Kids will no longer be able to work overseas
Picking grapes in France, fine. Wanting a real job, much less likely to be an option.
3 Brexit is all about ensuring corporates can dodge tax
Not all about, but certainly of interest to those minded to avoid tax.
4. All the bankers have gone/banks have not prepared for the loss of passporting rights
Perhaps they are waiting to find out what sort of Brexit is happening first?
5 the U.K. is bribing African states
It was only last week. I'm surprised you missed it.
From the master of lying about what others say too
I've never knowingly lied about anything on here. Hanlon's Razor may apply though.
I’ve arrived at the conclusion that thm is in a single bedroom in his parents’ house.
Probably about 15 and unhappy because girls don’t like him....
Kids will no longer be able to work overseas
Son kids will. But not ANY kid, that is the big difference. Nor ANY adult for that matter.
It's like ninfan has done an account takeover. How the mighty have fallen!
I see Witherspoon’s, supporter of Brexit anti-EU is opening a hotel in Dublin 🙄 really couldn’t make this stuff up
How much tax revenue will be going over there
If you want hypocrites;
<b>Nigel Lawson, Baron Lawson of Blaby</b>,
He is still active in politics as President of Conservatives for Britain, a campaign for Britain to leave the European Union, and is a prominent critic of the European Union. He is also chairman of the climate change sceptic Global Warming Policy Foundation think tank.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[1]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-telegraph.co.uk_2-0" class="reference">[2]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-Kazmi_2015_3-0" class="reference">[3]</sup> He has been an active supporter of the Eurosceptic pressure group Leave Means Leave.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference">[4]</sup>
Currently, Lawson resides in France.
Leku - thanks for proving my point. Even cougar admits his 10% drop in GDP was BS, sorry sarcasm. 100% sure banks are not/have not waited. They are well prepared
Fortunately your conclusion Woppit is as good and as accurate as your religious rants. Any you complain about people believing in sky fairies!!!