[Closed] EU Referendum - are you in or out?

Junkyard - lazarus

I think you superimposed your childish levels of discourse and understanding on to others

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You do realise what you just did, don't you? 😳

slowoldman - Member

I think May was talking about the EU 27 plus half of the UK coming together.
That's not how I read it.

"This year, after a period of intense debate over the right future for our country, there is a sense that people are coming together and uniting behind the opportunities that lie ahead."

Of course it's possible to put whatever spin you like on the words.

Sorry. Agreed. I sometimes forget ont' web one's tone of voice doesn't come across.

I think she is living in a bubble if she thinks people are coming together.

sbob - member who needs to just go ride his bike

What we need now is for kimbers to make up some ever-so-clever rude sounding words, binners to post a picture and any big hitter to jump in with a cliche.

... followed by sbob posting a picture labelled with a cliche....

oldnpastit - Member

... followed by sbob posting a picture labelled with a cliche....

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I think she is living in a bubble if she thinks people are coming together.

People are coming together, slowly but surely

[url= http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/british-government-realises-brexit-is-a-mistake-official-says-1.3048046 ]Government admits it is a stupid idea[/url]

We'll all the civil service people I've seen on the things to promote the UK abroad think Brexit is daft.
And those are the people trying to dig us out of the hole.

mrmo - Member

People are coming together, slowly but surely

Very slowly if people are having to post the same link three times in an effort to make a point. 😉

I fail to see how that is news?

The British Government always thought it was a stupid idea, everyone knows that - the government (including the current PM) campaigned against it, the politicians of all parties and civil servants, heavily weighted towards a metropolitan elite with private school education & university degrees, were overwhelmingly opposed to the idea.

But we live in a democracy, and the majority voted out.

Deal with it.

But we live in a democracy, and the majority voted out.

Deal with it.

We are dealing with it. Watch us Or do you think democracy stopped when the polling stations close?

We are dealing with it. Watch us

Are you?

Tell me, what do you regard as the identifiable outcomes of the way you have dealt with it so far?

All you appear to have done to date is whinged a lot, without any discernible effect on the outcome or negotiating position. Oh, sorry , hurrah, you forced a court case, and a vote in parliament, that you lost... so made no difference whatsoever.

The irony is that according to you remainders, having to go along with something you disagree with because it suits the others is preferable to being able to decide for yourselves anyway 😆

Plenty of time yet for this to change. Your complacence and goading betray leak of confidence and are a big weakness.

(haha leak = lack! Both could work though).

All you appear to have done to date is whinged a lot, without any discernible effect on the outcome or negotiating position.

you mean accepting european courts and migration during transition is a failure for the remainers?

mattjg - Member
We are dealing with it.

Watch us Or do you think democracy stopped when the polling stations close?

However, if you still yearn to join some sort of large future bureaucratic system perhaps try again in 50 years time when you have that choice. In the meantime, the remainders should simply chillax man ... chill ... 😆

Alternatively simply apply to be a citizen of one of the EU Country or just simply buy one of their passport after all you have two years time limit to prepare yourself ... 😛

mrmo - Member
you mean accepting european courts and migration during transition is a failure for the remainers?

FWIW ninfan took the hunting ban stoically and with respect for the wishes of the overwhelming majority and never once ever brought it up after the law was passed and never whinged about it ...an example to all remainders everywhere of taking it on the chin he was

S****s @ Junkyard

The British government is slowly realising Brexit is “an act of great self-harm” and that upcoming EU-UK negotiations must seek to limit the damage, the State’s top Brexit official has said.

The British Government always thought it was a stupid idea, everyone knows that - the government (including the current PM) campaigned against it, the politicians of all parties and civil servants, heavily weighted towards a metropolitan elite with private school education & university degrees, were overwhelmingly opposed to the idea.

If both those are true why are they not pushing for the least worst Norway option, oh yeah everything we do from now on is to appease the loony right and the facist press

All you appear to have done to date is whinged a lot, without any discernible effect on the outcome or negotiating position. Oh, sorry , hurrah, you forced a court case, and a vote in parliament, that you lost... so made no difference whatsoever.

Ninfan - well I've been coaching the DIT on things we do in this country, things we might export, been out to the States talking to similar people at their end.

Have you done anything positive yet or are you a typical whinging Brexy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39613888

More Brexit good news. No doubt someone will be along soon to tell me it's no loss........

However, if you still yearn to join some sort of large future bureaucratic system perhaps try again in 50 years time when you have that choice. In the meantime, the remainders should simply chillax man ... chill ...

We have the choice now oh whingy one 😆

There a hunting ban?

igm - Member

However, if you still yearn to join some sort of large future bureaucratic system perhaps try again in 50 years time when you have that choice. In the meantime, the remainders should simply chillax man ... chill ...

We have the choice now oh whingy one

I know you (remainders) do not wish to hear that but the truth (referendum) is that there is No turning back regardless of how much you whine.

You need to be more creative in your whinging man coz you are repeating yourselves ... 😆

Chewkw - find evidence of me whining.

Expressing anger yes, being part of the fight back against the idiots who brought us Brexit yes (if you have a ook there are grass roots campaigns starting every day), stating that if the Brexies can deliver (or even explain how they will deliver) a freer, more liberal society with more opportunity for my children then I'll gladly join them yes (I'm still waiting for anything positive from them - here or nationally), and explaining what I'm doing in the meantime to try to dig this country out of the more it's chosen yes. But try to find a whine or a whinge.

The country mad a huge mistake. No point in whining about that, I accept the country mad a mistake. Now we need to sort that.

Meanwhile all I hear from Brexies is whining that they won, we lost add we we need to get over it.

I have news for you whiny Brexy boys - you won. Almost a year ago. History. Get over it. Now get off you arses and start doing something to sort this mess.

The only positive things being done at the moment are being done by remainers.

If the Brexiteers are fed up with the Remainers moaning, why don't you give the Remainers something to be happy about?

Problem is you can't can you. Brexit is just a big shitty mess so all you can do is tell the Remainers to stop whining whilst keeping your heads in the sand and denying to yourselves that you made a bit of a cock up on voting day.

You say nothing, I invite you to add content and yet you still say nothing.

I could copy and paste all the comments made by others that your replied to in a manner suggesting a complete lack of comprehension, but it would just waste space. Go back and re-read.

Deal with it.

This is happening you know.
Individuals and companies are out there preparing for 2019… and it's all damage limitation.
Don't confuse a commitment to point out the stupidity of Brexit with a failure to prepare for it.
It's the Leavers I know that haven't yet realised what they need to be doing, because they believe no mitigation is needed, I worry for them far more than open eyed remainers.

I have news for you whiny Brexy boys - you won. Almost a year ago. History. Get over it. Now get off you arses and start doing something to sort this mess.

Why? We warned you at the time that a great many people were perfectly happy to crash the whole thing into the ground just to hear the screams of people like yourself who had spent years ignoring them. You refused to believe this, and carried on ignoring them. Now you pay the price.

The only positive things being done at the moment are being done by remainers.

We're still too busy laughing

@Junky -simple answer to that.... did we manage to change it? Or did, in reality, most things just carry on like they did before, despite the predictions of disaster?

Makes you think, eh?

We need to take them to the edge of the abyss, and leave them tottering for a while.

And then scream in horror as we pull you in with us 🙂

My brother is trying to sort joint Italain nationality for his kids, and apparently the system is log jammed with new applications from Brits. They only have a max 3 month queue system (normally 3 weeks of people in the queue) and it's constantly full, you can't even join the queue now. They have never prepared their system to cope with a four fold increase in people seeking joint nationality. Lots of people seeking to "deal with it."

We warned you at the time that a great many people were perfectly happy to crash the whole thing into the ground just to hear the screams of people like yourself who had spent years ignoring them.

Yep, lots of people voted for the chaos ahead… the worry is that they thought (and still think) it would effect the lives of others, not themselves. Many will find they are the ones taking the biggest hit, not those they angrily lashed out at.

Now you pay the price.

Nope, we do everything we can to protect our families and businesses from the changes ahead. Who will make sure that the "great many people" who are reliant on employment in industries that will shift elsewhere do not "pay the price?"

Ninfan - Brexit has so far been quite fun for this remainer. Doing lots of interesting things with interesting people (yet to meet a Brexy doing anything though - are laziness and Brexiness correlated 😉 ). And I'm sure on a personal basis I'll do very well out of it.
It will on the other hand take opportunities away from my children, and for that I will not forgive the Brexy idiots.

igm - Member
Chewkw - find evidence of me whining.

Expressing anger yes, ...

edenvalleyboy - Member
If the Brexiteers are fed up with the Remainers moaning, why don't you give the Remainers something to be happy about?

[b]Note: My comments are generally for all remainders so should be read that way.[/b]

Problem is you can't can you.

Brexit is just a big shitty mess so all you can do is tell the Remainers to stop whining whilst keeping your heads in the sand and denying to yourselves that you made a bit of a cock up on voting day and now have no clue as to how to make a positive outcome form it.

Who told you it is a mess? Why do you have to interpret leaving the EU bureaucratic system as a mess? I certainly do not see any mess at all but very predictable period of adjustment for all. You seem to jump to conclusion too quickly. 😯

At least Jamabalaya has something to say, misguided as it is to me, other than variants of "we won you lost get over it".

The rest just parrot WWYLGOT endlessly then don't understand why we won't "get behind" Brilliant Brexit Britain.

It's almost like they never won anything before ...

kelvin - Member
It's the Leavers I know that haven't yet realised what they need to be doing, because they believe no mitigation is needed, I worry for them far more than open eyed remainers.

Really? 😯

If I were the EU bureaucrats I would try all the dirtiest tricks available in this world to hammer UK so hard until UK submit or beg for mercy. 😈

But what the EU bureaucrats are doing are just predictable. 😛

Wow, forgot all about this forum waste of space. Thanks for the reply, I haven't read it.

Many will find they are the ones taking the biggest hit

Yup, and some of us will be pointing and laughing at them.

Don't get me wrong, any chance to reverse this mess and I'll do my best to help. Plenty of innocents are going to get screwed too, and I take no pleasure in that. But I'll be ok either way and the morons that shot themselves in the face can go **** themselves as far as I'm concerned.

It's almost like they never won anything before ...

Ohh I didn't realise it was a competition - what did they win then ?

But we live in a democracy, and the majority voted out.

Deal with it.

We all deal with things in our own way. Some people who see something they think is a bad idea may deal with it by trying to influence or change things. I would say that's a logical way to deal with things you don't like.

Isn't that what the leave campaign did for years? Now.... Telling people who are fundamentally opposed to and upset about leaving the EU to deal with it is one thing guaranteed to perpetuate division and pessimism in this county.

I admit I have never been comfortable with the political process and direction in the UK. To me, leaving the EU feels like an exponential deterioration in the situation. If dealing with it means passively accepting something that makes me feel unhappy and will impact negatively on things that are important to me, I am now wondering why the brexiteers didn't simply deal with us being part of the EU in the first place.

kelvin - Member
Nope, we do everything we can to protect our families and businesses from the changes ahead. Who will make sure that the "great many people" who are reliant on employment in industries that will shift elsewhere do not "pay the price?"

Just gonna have UK bureaucrats and probably a lot.

Why? We warned you at the time that a great many people were perfectly happy to crash the whole thing into the ground just to hear the screams of people like yourself who had spent years ignoring them. You refused to believe this, and carried on ignoring them. Now you pay the price.

Not really. I suspect that you and Brexies in general will pay a bigger price than me.

Deal with it.

We also want to protect our families, businesses and employment etc, just without the EU bureaucrats.

I've run my own business for the last 25 year. The Eu bureaucrats have has zero impact, in fact the exact opposite. Now we are dealing with massive price rises (due to the tanked pound) and loads, and I mean potentially loads, of extra bureaucracy with dealing with import tariffs to and from the EC. Go Brexit..........

dudeofdoom - Member
Just gonna have UK bureaucrats and probably a lot.

Brexiteers are the ultimate denialists.

Next there'll be trying to tell us the Earth is flat......

Well denialists is one word for them 😀