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Jamba shut down again 😆


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 5:33 pm
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False. Links are needed for claims like that.

Don't hold your breath..


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 5:45 pm
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Well, I'll put my hand up and admit I expected the £ to fall further against the $ when A50 was triggered (less so the €). Pleasantly suprised that it hasn't. Perhaps exchange rates have found their level for our current situation, and nothing crazy will happen for 18 months or so. If so, good news. Glad to be wrong on this one. Very glad.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 5:50 pm
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@Welsh no the prediction made by Remainers here was that the £ would go down even more. It went up. World didn't fall apart in 2008/9 when £/€ was last around these levels.

@kelvin there is a market cliche of "sell the runour buy the fact". The Govt made it clear A50 would be end March so it was fully priced in. The event itself was a damp squib from a markets perspective. My guess is small rally was profit taking from shorts.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 5:53 pm
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World didn't fall apart in 2008/9 when £/€ was last around these levels.

No, but it was rubbish. And, despite the upward trend, most predict a fall to around 1.05. But then you don't do experts do you.........


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 5:56 pm
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Don't hold your breath..

Wise words 🙂 Link tennis is not my style and I assume people read the news or if they want clarification they can use google.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 5:57 pm
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When Jamby posts I always picture sean spicer saying that clumsily to a gathered group of non believers open mouthed at the hubris which is in no way matched by any fact


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 5:59 pm
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But then you don't do experts do you.....

I'm an "expert" and you don't listen to me 😉

Forecasts are interesting to read but worth little ime of 30 in finance.

Exports where up again due to weak £ (Guardian piece). 1.05 would help our teade deficit. Personally I don't think that will happen as eurozone catastrophe will outweigh Brexit tantrums


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:00 pm
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if they want clarification they can use google

😆

I take it back you are far far funnier

One has to post facts to be able to cite hence you dont do link tennis you do make shit up and move on when folk point out its wrong tennis

Forecasts are interesting to read but worth little ime of 30 in finance
an appeal to authority and your own.

You are spoiling us today with your posts


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:01 pm
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No, but it was rubbish. And, despite the upward trend, most predict a fall to around 1.05. But then you don't do experts do you.........

No they don't, some do, some don't, the market finds an equilibrium between the two.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:02 pm
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One person linked a bank article predicting the pound would fall further in the [u]long[/u] term. Nobody on here has predictied the pound would fall further than it already has.

I'd happily see it rise again, it's one Brexit consequence that isn't in the interest of people I know. It's the loss of freedom of movement, los of reciprocal agreements, tarif free trade, lost educational opportunities, increased paperwork, uncertain future, loss of year of pension rights... that concern people I know.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:04 pm
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No they don't, some do, some don't, the market finds an equilibrium between the two.

Yes, but all predictions are lower than todays rate aren't they?


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:04 pm
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One person linked a bank article predicting the pound would fall further in the long term. Nobody on here has predictied the pound would fall further than it already has.

Well, I'll put my hand up and admit I expected the £ to fall further against the $ when A50 was triggered (less so the €). Pleasantly suprised that it hasn't.

Awkward


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:06 pm
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Personally I don't think that will happen as eurozone catastrophe will outweigh Brexit tantrums

I'll take that to mean any rubbish (or no deal), or the increasing prospect of such, will hit both gbp and euro… which I'd agree with, but with language that wasn't as heavy on the hyperbole. Sterling vs USD is the one to watch.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:06 pm
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Awkward

It's almost as we're different people.

Not sure if I posted 'on here' my thoughts as records exchange rates, I have in private to others though, and I was wrong as regards this event. There's more events to come though… when things will actually change, rather than people talking about triggering future change.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:07 pm
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sbob - what you are actually doing is continuing to dig when you are in a hole. You (deliberately?) misstated my point then keep on claiming I said something I didn't

😆
I'm not in a hole and I haven't changed my position. You're sticking your fingers in your ears and erecting a strawman.
I haven't miss-stated your point, you're just ignoring mine.

I personally think it is mutually beneficial for us all to work together, it's one of the reasons why I voted to remain.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:12 pm
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Well I reckon the run on the pound this week has more to do with the Easter break and all the Europeans taking advantage and coming over there for a cheap holiday. But that is just speculation (as is all currency trading 🙂 )


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:26 pm
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Err, but the pound is still roughly 15% down versus the dollar compared to just before the referendum, isn't it?

How is that good again? Can't remember.

Of course the FX rate didn't show much of a change compared to last June. When you tell people in advance what you are going to, the actual event isn't really that important. It would have been interesting what would have happened to the rate had Theresa the Appeaser said "actually, this has all been a colossal mistake and I'm taking this letter round to Dave's house so he can shove it up his arse".

There was only a big move last June because not even the markets and speculators could believe we were going to be that stupid.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:53 pm
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Jamba said

The whole of the rest of the world manages just fine not being in the EU

Very large parts of the rest of the world are in a dreadful state. Utterly awful. The EU is a prosperous and liberal paradise by any comparison to most of the world.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 6:54 pm
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The whole of the rest of the world manages just fine

It's another lie!


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 7:01 pm
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The whole of the rest of the world manages just fine not being in the EU

What he meant is 'the whole of the rest of the world that matters to people whose only interest is self-enrichment'.

I mean, who wants to invest in South Sudan? Actually, there are quite a few Tory supporters out there who would probably quite like to run some kind of profit-making enterprise involving food distribution in famine-hit areas. It's what we should all aspire to, after all.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 7:01 pm
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[I]The whole of the rest of the world manages just fine not being in the EU[/I]

Aye..., and I'm sure most of their citizens would give their backteeth to get the rights that EU citizens have, nevermind to have anywhere near our standard of living.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 7:36 pm
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Err, but the pound is still roughly 15% down versus the dollar compared to just before the referendum, isn't it?
How is that good again? Can't remember.

It means we are very competitive when it comes to exporting our goods (whatever they are) to... erm, help me out here.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 7:45 pm
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Link tennis is not my style and I assume people read the news or if they want clarification they can use google.

What's that I smell?

Oh yeah.....

Bullsh1t..


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 7:55 pm
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help me out here.

Okay..,

It means we are very competitive when it comes to exporting our jam to the Commonwealth

😉


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 8:08 pm
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Aye..., and I'm sure most of their citizens would give their backteeth to get the rights that EU citizens have, nevermind to have anywhere near our standard of living.

Which is the thing that disgusts me most about Brexshit and Trump. It is a result of a sizable number of immensely privileged people (in a world sense), that have done bugger all to 'earn' that privilege, saying "it is not enough". Anyway, I'm getting riled up with this again, so time to leave it.

Brexies, you won. You've got to make this work now.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 8:16 pm
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Brexies, you won. You've got to make this work now.

Not necessarily. We've not reached the end game. It can still fall on its arse.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 9:59 pm
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^^ word. No way near over. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to shut you down.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 10:05 pm
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Ireland was about the poorest country in Europe in the '60s, that is the entire continent!

and now?

Obviously the EU has screwed the economy and reduced the country to one of the poorest on earth....


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 10:25 pm
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now? they've got all Apple's unpaid tax! 😉


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 10:37 pm
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Yes, but all predictions are lower than todays rate aren't they?

No, plenty of institutions saying sterling is a buy.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 10:44 pm
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sbob- you took a simple point I made, distorted it to be something completely different and then continued to use what you claimed I said not what I did say

enough -


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:05 pm
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A few points well made.

https://reaction.life/seven-key-british-perspectives-brexit-negotiations


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:07 pm
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Brexies, you won. You've got to make this work now.

Get with the programme man, the brexies don't need to do anything. The remainers have to make it work, and if it doesn't it'll be the evil EU's fault, so why would they?


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:08 pm
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A few points well made.

The only point well made.

Now, all the above might be “delusional”. But it is the British perspective


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:16 pm
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A few points well made.

https://reaction.life/seven-key-british-perspectives-brexit-negotiations

Well at least we know where you recycle your garbage from now. To try and claim that that is the British perspective is ludicrous and arrogant. The reason that we may end up with a bad deal is if people like that open their gobs and the EU take them seriously.


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:21 pm
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oh dear linking to Reaction, thats a sign of desperation, bregret is surely the next stage if you are linking to that jingoistic clickbait 😉


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:27 pm
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Same point #7 made by Sky and Telegragph. The rest was pretty uncontroversial. No one is "giving" us anything, its a mutually beneficial agreement or there is none.

http://news.sky.com/story/security-on-the-table-during-brexit-talks-10821808


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:29 pm
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rupert murdoch & the barclay bros now

here's a spade, keep digging
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that aside using 'security' as a negotiating chip is in the grand scheme of things monumentally stupid and short sighted

as such yeah, it fits in perfectly with the mess that brexshit has created


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:35 pm
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Have to say Im loving the comments from brexies on social media saying that we should test out some trident missles on spain re gibraltar

Ive seen 3 or 4 people say similar things now , I think its because they daren't admit that project fear is coming true


 
Posted : 01/04/2017 11:42 pm
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More straw Jambalaya

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Posted : 01/04/2017 11:47 pm
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[url= http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/node/6794/full ]Very good article on the failure of the intelligensia[/url]


 
Posted : 02/04/2017 12:03 am
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The argument seems to be people are naturally xenophobic nationalists and the "cultural left" by trying to stop people being xenophobic nationalists only causes them to do this to a greater degree.

Not sure I'd call it very good.

An attempt to intellectualise a Daily Mail opinion piece really.


 
Posted : 02/04/2017 8:26 am
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Jamba says he doesn't do link tennis, then starts posting links.

More lies 😆


 
Posted : 02/04/2017 8:43 am
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Perception is a dangerous thing...

My ex-wife had views of how our divorce should work and what she'd get out of it; house, car, income for life.

None of those things occurred as we were young (few assets or cash) and in reality the bank owned the house (post late 80's slump), the finance company owned her car and there are laws about maintenance (or lack of).


 
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