[I]BMW seems to manage producing all X5's in the US (my understanding) [/I]
Probably more to do with the USA is the key market so tariff's to other countries are cheaper overall than tariff's into it - plus it's down the south so relatively cheap labour.
Mike, Perhaps your unhappiness could be solved by widening your tolerance and empathy? You were vexed on that thread too but very unchallenging.
Oh touche....
Sorry but my empathy only goes so far, your patronising sixth form lectures were about the end of it (yes we read your posts, no we didn't agree)
But still, the Lords should properly debate this and sent it back to the hoc with the suitable ammendments as is their jobs or should they tow the line?
bery few willing to pay extra for UK produced/better quality food, lowest price required to "help the poor"
on the contrary i think a lot of people look for the little union flag tractor on produce, but you can carry on portraying your speculations as facts if you like, it's true to form.
I don't get your point about car industry Jambalaya.
The UK car industry provides a lot of jobs. But that industry is very reliant on mobility of parts and materials.
Very unhappy indeed. It's nice out, get outside and.cheer up. Or take some Vit D
Very unhappy indeed. It's nice out, get outside and.cheer up. Or take some Vit D
Seriously channeling the trumpet?
Ignore my previous advice. Condition obviously much worse than initially thought....
Mike I read that Guardian piece. Nothing surprising, Eastern Europeans want to keep their citizems rights in the UK, others think EU unity is key (eg Greece who need the EU/support) etc ... If anything surprising thing was low priority for many for freedom of movement and Singke market being inseperable.
Story picked up by Telegragph that Junker may step down very soon, it's clear he gambled wrong on the Cameron renegotation and Referendum. Never mind he still collects half pay (€250k pa) for 2 to 3 years plus the whopping pension of 1.9% pa so even his short 4yr tenure as President means that portion alone is worth €38k pa. EU gravy train flows on.
@chris it was in responce to an earlier poster suggesting that Vauxhaul would move as they export most of the production. The import/export of parts is pretty easily dealt with if there is the will (and I think there is)
@chris it was in responce to an earlier poster suggesting that Vauxhaul would move as they export most of the production. The import/export of parts is pretty easily dealt with if there is the will (and I think there is)
really depends, Astras aren't only made in the UK, I think the current alternate site is Poland. Could be Belgium, Germany etc, i would suggest that the current model is safe, the next revision c2020, is the one to watch. This does of course depend on what PSA decide to do in the interim. It is very easy to move a production line and even easier to close one at the end of a production run.
I seem to remember last time i looked that the European market suffers from over capacity and could do with loosing a few car plants.
jambalaya - Member
Nothing surprising, Eastern Europeans want to keep their citizems rights in the UK, ...
They want others to feed their citizen hence they want to keep their rights.
Why wouldnt they? We want the same for our citizens
The level of common decency from the leave side still shocks me
I know it astounds me they are so reasonable despite being called thick, racists, narrow minded, little englanders etc.
Ahhh mefty you think leavers view those terms as insults...
the Bob's of this world (and a know lots) don't take responsibility for their actions, they blame immigrants, rich people and mainstream politicians.
You need to walk in their shoes. Have you got any idea how it would feel to be of low intelligence (largely through no fault of their own)?
Don't understand anything, can't work things out, easily led by media/ populist nonsense, the jobs you could do no longer exist.
Bit of victim blaming just saying they should somehow be more intelligent and able to do other jobs. This is a high number of people and a solution needs to be found as the problem is not going to get any smaller.
Bear in mind i was born in the UK and have lived here all my life. I can still remember being told as a child to "F off back to Ireland you paddy b**d"
One of those things you put behind you, until recently that is, and you are reminded how racist some elements of the UK really are. That element has always existed but they had been silenced by developments.
I have yet to hear any UK politician seriously try and put the jack back in the box. They would rather pander to the small minded little Englanders of UKIP and the Tory right.
As for immigration, there are more Irish Citizens in the UK than in the Republic. The numbers of foreign born in the UK mean it is not possible to deport. Yet rather than face this fact what do we hear.
Your spot on Kerley "my whole background/family" is this element of society and I have pointed out time and time again that Brexit and the Tories puts these people even further back.
The EU and immigrants have not destroyed their world it was globalisation and free trade fully supported by all governments - they have been "told" its the EU and those immigrants nicking your jobs not globalisation and automation.
I don't disrespect the working poor, I am from them, my old man's view of education was as long as you count the money in your pay packet to make sure you weren't robbed that's good enough. I on the other hand worked out sharpish that most people who had better jobs had better education.
This education "conundrum" places restrictions on this group of people (including younger folks)
One of my kids had a part time job in a large high street retailers in his last year at Uni " the store manager says - so you have a degree? - son says will do in Summer- store manager - get on our graduate scheme - son ok then?
£16k to £28k salary change.
Folks around him had worked for the business for years- he had done six months part time - this is the glass ceiling that lots of graduates create in a market.
That sounds like an uninended consequence of the 90s target to get 50% of people going to uni.
teamhurtmore - Member
Why wouldnt they? We want the same for our citizens
Because they should be responsible for own.
Do you give part of your income to your neighbour?
No, I have a different views on that because if a person wants to live and work etc in other country that is his/her choice. Govt is not the safety blanket in this matter. So they are citizen so what coz they go there at their own free will and nobody forces them.
Yes - I do
Do you give part of your income to your neighbour?
WTF do you think income tax is for?
Step away from the chewkw...
That sounds like an uninended consequence of the 90s target to get 50% of people going to uni.
Stupid target that was. Do you really need a degree to man a call centre?
No but if your building a country's economy to be competitive and leading edge.. oh yeah we didn't bother doing that.
Spot on 50% was nuts for a minimum wage zero hours economy.
Molecular I am not sure I was unintended, having a surplus of reasonably well educated young people who think they should have a career is maybe good for demand.
Stupid target that was. Do you really need a degree to man a call centre?
depends, on the target market....
But more to the point, we don't need university graduates as such, we do need qualified people. Be that an apprenticeship or academic doesn't matter. Those skills also have to be transferable. Chatting to someone at the weekend, he tended to employ maths graduates for computer chip design because they had a good understanding of logic. Skills such as coding can be picked up.
How many people are on ZH contracts in the U.K.?
About 1 million on ZH probably fake news..
As a percentage of the workforce?
Seems like a wee bit of hyperbole there!!!
I don't know! I just Googled it, expectations for accuracy are far too high on here these days
I meant the description of the UK as a minimum wage zero hours economy
.The EU and immigrants have not destroyed their world it was globalisation and free trade
I couldnt give a toss about that either, as a lot of very poor people in the developing world earned a higher wage because of it.
I have no ideological problem with the transfer of wealth to developing nations and the formation of a global middle class - even if that means our working classes see their living standards fall. I never saw them show any sign of solidarity with the poor from the rest of the world. **** them, bring on a global meritocracy.
even if that means our working classes see thier living standards fall. I didnt ever see them show any sign of solidarity with the poor from the rest of the world.
Tom wins "dick of the day" award.
Somafunk, simply, the fact that capitalism and globalisation have achieved what Che Guevara and communism never could - the transfer of wealth from imperialist nations - is not lost on me and amuses me to no end.
Good read on Brexitshambles today.
http://www.brexitshambles.com/long-read-what-are-the-economic-effects-of-britain-leaving-the-eu/
Good read on Brexitshambles today.http://www.brexitshambles.com/long-read-what-are-the-economic-effects-of-britain-leaving-the-eu/
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not the most upbeat of reads if i am being honest.
Keep flipping over to the HoL debate between other programs. As interesting as many contributions are - like the HoC debate - can't help thinking
1. What effect will all these words have
2. Why do so many politicians still not get it? No recognition of why people voted in the way they did and why this current attempt not to listen only reinforces this
Thx for the link but more backward looking analysis.
Time to look forward not back
teamhurtmore - Member
Yes - I do
I don't. Not my net income. 😆
Tax, ya no. It's tax ... not your generosity. Nil point.
mrmo - Member
Do you give part of your income to your neighbour?
WTF do you think income tax is for?
😆 Ya, I thought most of you would come back with that answer.
Ya, no ... How about giving net income to say non-EU nation "neighbours" (countries not as in the people who live next door - knowing you lot words twisting power ... do I really need to define everything I say?).
Ya, net income Not from the govt fund / aid whatever ... your net income. 😆
Ya, net income ...
you mean like giving to Oxfam????
mrmo - Member
Ya, net income ...
you mean like giving to Oxfam????
Yes and no.
Can you off set your tax if you contribute to charity in return for some sort of "tax leniency" just like those big companies?
Giftaid and Give As You Earn are available to help you give to charity in a tax efficient manner.
Time to look forward not back
If we don't look back, how can we consider the reasons for the Brexit result?
You contradicted yourself there somewhat.
True. Well spotted 😉
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39031546
NHS cuts.............really couldn't make it up could you.