No doubt, but we can't all aspire to your level of expertise now can we?
You can indeed Doc - and having a more accurate understanding of the Indian economy would be a good start. You recent summary missed the point spectacularly and was (unintentionally I would suggest) damning and rude towards India and its people.
PS sorry if these have been done, I've had a day or two detoxing from this thread.
should be sorry for posting the same link! 🙂
Daily mail headline: PM faces fury after hinting at 'transitional' Brexit deal to appease City firms that could see us tied to the EU for YEARS
The comments section goes wild again!
Klunk - I am.
Here you go
Of course there is a grand tradition of repeatedly posting the same thing on this thread. 😉
and in the tradition of looking to god. God doesn't want brexit and this is how he punishes those that have called for it....
Be fair. It was probably only Mother Nature.
Theresa May flip-flopping a bit today.
Crikey - I can hear the Mail readers heads exploding from here...
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Not sure why the remainders keep thinking they can change their fate. 😆
@kimbers my guess is the Corporation Tax play is to throw the gauntlet down to EU/Ireland/Luxembourg - there are thise (not me) that propose ultra-low corporation tax as it's so easy to avoid these days with a focus instead on sales tax and employee based taxes.
@igm taking a detox is a good idea 😉
@mattyfez that is exactly why we should [b]never[/b] have become embroiled in the project and certainly not signed Maastricht or Lisbon Treaties. Even if the story turns put not to be what will happen the very fact it can be written shiws why we had to get out.
There is so much focus on every word spoken by Cabinet and PM journalists are having a field day writing anti-Brexit stories for maxium clickbait ad revenue
Finally a note on opinion polls, just like Scots and EU Referendums and the US election the French Republican vote was misrepresented. Figaro one of the major French dailys got it totally wrong
Jupe 36
Sarkozy 30
Finon 18
Actual result
Finon 44
Jupe 28
Sarkozy 20
Something needs to be done about what I think is manipulative polling
Or manipulative voters. How many people tell the truth to pollers? I don't, I take the Mickey. Anyone who phones me at home without me having given them my number is fair game, they fall into the same category as fraudsters, PV panel salesmen... . Madame has no idea how her colleagues vote so why would they tell the pollsters?
Something needs to be done about what I think is manipulative polling
If it is "manipulative polling" then its main intent seems to be to lull opponents (e.g. Jupe/Clinton/Remain voters) into a false sense of security.
But really I don't think it is that orchestrated. I think it is just uncertain and changing political climates that the historic polling models are not coping with very well.
Chewkw seems that karma is slowly working-
Promises to Nissan (and many more)
Transitional Periods
Big finance "holds gun to PMs head"
Going quite nicely
I think Trump will be out before we even get close
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@igm taking a detox is a good idea
Absolutely. There's only so much desperate nonsense from Chewkw that a sane man can take in one go.
Not sure why the remainders keep thinking they can change their fate.
Just for the hell of it, tell me how the June referendum occurred and exactly why that process can't be repeated. Indulge me.
The will of the people!
Thanks, but chewkw needs to tell me for the good of his soul. I'm not convinced that he undestands the process involved in UK politics.
Just for the hell of it, tell me how the June referendum occurred and exactly why that process can't be repeated. Indulge me.
It can be
You just need to wait for the next general election and vote in a government that promises a new referendum on EU membership, and to abide by the results.
You just need to wait for the next general election and vote in a government that promises a new referendum on EU membership, and to abide by the results.
But your brother in arms doesn't understand this. It is he that I'd like to respond. And who's to say that enough pressure put on the dilly dallying May can't have the same effect. Especially as more and more people realise they've been made to look like mugs.
Why would any government promise to abide by the results?
Yea, I am all for that. Imagine if the remainders do as told then there would be a whole lot of boredom. In the meantime it's our turn to slowly squeeze the remainders ... squeeze, squeeze. 😛captainsasquatch - Member
Just for the hell of it, tell me how the June referendum occurred and exactly why that process can't be repeated. Indulge me.Not sure why the remainders keep thinking they can change their fate.
Jamba - Member
@kimbers my guess is the Corporation Tax play is to throw the gauntlet down to EU/Ireland/Luxembourg.
That's what it feels like, but this is playing with fire!
If the tax base goes down then government spending will surely follow. And the desperate and forgotten will have even fewer crumbs of comfort to hang on to.
Yea, I am all for that. Imagine if the remainders do as told then there would be a whole lot of boredom. In the meantime it's our turn to slowly squeeze the remainders ...
And that's the answer folks! 😆
Must make you proud ninfan, knowing that the leave vote is made up of such intelligent folk. More 😆 ing.
Ya, I know we won. I cannot even believe it the moment the announcement was made about us reversing the decision made 43 years ago. That's totally unexpected. I mean totally. Wow! 😯captainsasquatch - Member
And that's the answer folks!
Must make you proud ninfan, knowing that the leave vote is made up of such intelligent folk. More ing.
Must make you proud ninfan, knowing that the leave vote is made up of such intelligent folk. More ing.
Well, it could be worse:
Well, it could be worse:
That's actually quite beautiful and more than a little ironic (which I guess will be lost on many).
Speak for yourself
File blocker exists because he does
EDIT to your edit: I dont embrace,endorse nor approve the racist overtones expressed by the poster
File blocker exists because he does
I thought it needed the edit to explain, sorry. I can be too subtle at times.
nah I nearly mentioned the overtones in my post but felt it ruined my punchline, such that it was.
You just need to wait for the next general election and vote in a government that promises a new referendum on EU membership, and to abide by the results.
Why ? Uturn Theresa may turn again, might end up being the best of a bad lot.
[i]EDIT to your edit: I dont embrace,endorse nor approve the racist overtones expressed by the poster [/I]
Racist? No, Xenophobic.
Racist? No, Xenophobic.
Why are you in fear of him? But yes, "piss off back to where you came from", is racist too.
As per the JC thread coming to fhe Remainers rescue are ...
Tony Blair and Nick Clegg funded in part by Tony and Richard Branson (£25k so that will pay for one researcher), offices rented and retired Blairites are coming along for the ride 😯 😯 😯
@oldnpastit my 2p is that companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, Uber, Apple, Starbucks etc have shown that the new corporate model doesn't need to pay corporation tax to be successful (shareholders are happy not to receive dividens if price goes up so no need to repatriate profits and pay tax just keep it all offshore). It's not beyond the realms of possibility that corporate tax receipts drop towards zero anyway. I am against this but Govts around the world seem powerless to do anything about it.
Just for the hell of it, tell me how the June referendum occurred and exactly why that process can't be repeated. Indulge me.
You are both Alex Salmond and Nicola Strugeon and I claim my barrell of oil for $110 (for ever and ever as you'll keep discovering more) 🙂
You are both Alex Salmond and Nicola Strugeon and I claim my barrell of oil for $110 (for ever and ever as you'll keep discovering more)
You honestly believe the public pressure that forced Cameron to succum and introduce the referendum can't happen again. That the govt, of whichever flavour, can and will ignore public pressure. That's frightening and more than a little undemocratic.
I'd love to live in a fantasy world.
@oldnpastit my 2p is that companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, Uber, Apple, Starbucks etc have shown that the new corporate model doesn't need to pay corporation tax to be successful (shareholders are happy not to receive dividens if price goes up so no need to repatriate profits and pay tax just keep it all offshore). It's not beyond the realms of possibility that corporate tax receipts drop towards zero anyway. I am against this but Govts around the world seem powerless to do anything about it.
You're not the first to suggest that sort of thing. And there's probably a fair amount of truth in it. Until the gearing becomes embarrassing as it has done some places.
I can't see how May could justify doing Brexit at all if the polls keep rolling in and support for remain increases. How can you **** the economy in the name of the will of the people when it's not even the will of the people any more?
You know what I think of polls. Remain biased press comissioning polls to generate more clicks and ad revenue. The only poll that mattered on Brexit was on June 23rd, 2016.
igm companies I mentioned aren't really geared, just keep the un/low taxed profits offshore maybe make an aquisition or two and stock price goes up accordingly. In the "old days" companies used debt to reduce tax bill and pay dividends but with interest rates so low that doesn't really work anymore.
The only poll that mattered on Brexit was on June 23rd, 2016.
the only one that matters going forward is the commons vote.
You know what I think of polls
Sure, a few polls with a close margin, you can ignore them. But what if there's lots of polls, with a growing margin?
The only poll that mattered on Brexit was on June 23rd, 2016.
So why not run another? Why can't we ask again now that we know more about it? What are you afraid of? The will of the pepole?
Now we have some indication of what actual Brexit might actually mean, we should probably have another referendum. The will of the people should not be ignored after all!
now it's in the collins dictionary there is no longer any excuse for ambiguity as to its meaning:
brexit, n: see brexit
But what if there's lots of polls
Isn't that what got us in to this mess in the first place?
Isn't that what got us in to this mess in the first place?
No it was the little englanders who though there were many millions of them but it turned out they were just xenophobic and believed what the daily wail told them.
