"ThIS and i understand why Turnerguy , who voted leave iirc, is uncomfortable with the fact they and the racist agree on this issue. I would not feel great about it either"
Which means that the Remain vote must be vastly exaggerated since Leavers who felt uncomfortable voting with racists will not have voted leave as they desired and abstained or perhaps even voted remain to reinforce their no racist status.
So the true leave majority must be way bigger than the 2pc.
yes if you want to make things up, not apply reason or logic nor rational and guess wildly then that is exactly what that shows 😯 🙄
Its quite hard to tell on these threads what is Poes law and what folk actually mean
And this winter will be THE WORST ON RECORD AS EUROSNOW SWEEPS IN FROM THE CONTINENT
at least it will be white 😉
Brrrrexit!
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/brexit-leave-voter-british-law-caller/
Oh.
My.
God.
The world does not have enough facepalm memes to sum up that caller. 😯
Can't we just have British snow? All this euro snow, taking the job of the British snow is unacceptable.
Surely as an independent nation, the UK does not have to wait for winter to make snow .lets have snow in august ready for the winter months.
That will show them.
The view at lunch here was that we agree not all Brexies (Brexies EU Runners?) are racist.
But the other 16.9m of them are. 😉
If you already accept that people don't want to vote with racists, I can't see how you can conclude that didn't depress the Leave vote.
If you already accept that people don't want to vote with racists,
Who said that ?
Can you not read the bit you quoted and comprehend?
I dont like to speculate wildly, with no evidence, based on misunderstanding a post to serve non sequitursI can't see how you can conclude that didn't depress the Leave vote.
YMMV
It's a little concerning we've heard nothing from the government in support of the judiciary even though they were on the losing side, or is letting this vitriol ride a not so subtle way of putting pressure on the supreme court justices. 👿
Not if they have sense - judges don't tend to respond well to pressure being put on them.
Outofbreath - just out of interest you understand, do you consider yourself a racist?
"Out if breath - just out of interest you understand, do you consider yourself a racist?"
According to this thread all racists voted leave. I didn't. Therefore I can't be a racist.
If you already accept that people don't want to vote with racists,
Who said that ?
You:
i understand why Turnerguy , who voted leave iirc, is uncomfortable with the fact they and the racist agree on this issue.
These judges sound suspiciously like experts and we did away with those in June.
Good option. To bring you up to speed, nothing has happened.
Indeed. We have had a HC clarification of the requirement to have an AoP to proceed with A50. Ok, deal with it. Should not cause so much angst - still, government should have spotted this beforehand which would have saved them the current aggro - good job that....oh forget it
Binns thats bllx. We have taken back control of our borders, so no Eurosnow can come in. We are hoping to replace with snow from the fast-growing weather systems of the Middle Easr, Africa and Aus
Talking of snow - that was the first cold ride of the year for me this morning. Horribly underdressed when the rain came in. Hot shower (tick), two hot drink (tick) - still bloody freezing!
binners - Member
And this winter will be THE WORST ON RECORD AS EUROSNOW SWEEPS IN FROM THE CONTINENTJunkyard - lazarus
at least it will be white
Hehe 🙂
Out of interest then - how would the remainers on here feel if we had a Norway style deal?
This trade deal stuff...
If Ireland (Republic) went for Éirexit (™), couldn't they set "better" terms for trade deals than Britain - as they have a tiny defence budget etc.? (And be more flexible and more responsive to global changes?)
Reductio ad absurdum - apart from real "basket cases" in Europe and those expecting a visit from Capo di tutti capi Putin, wouldn't it be beneficial for all members of the current EU to get a bit idependantly jiggy with corporation taxes and tariffs?
You know, a bit 1920s>1930s? Bit of "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" and a Cable Street thrown in...
If we're smart with the timing, we could get it to all kick off on the anniversary of the last major unpleasantness - mark your filofaxes: War profiteering starts ("h'officially") on 3rd Sept 2039!
"Pack up your support tickets in your old Dropbox account and smile, smile" etc. 😀
£ at a one mont high - yippee
Oddly the narcissitic blond bombshell spoke some sense today
UK foreign secretary Boris Johnson said on Friday that he “would really not read too much” into yesterday’s High Court ruling on the activation of the divorce process from the EU, describing it as “one stage in a legal process” that will not alter the timing of the UK’s exit.
apart from the final bit.
Out of interest then - how would the remainers on here feel if we had a Norway style deal?
Or Swiss, I understand Swiss snow is also acceptable to some Leavers.
All the legal experts this morning are saying that the appeal is pretty pointless, and the verdict will be exactly the same, as its not as if its open to interpretation. Its the constitution, and the law is the law. Full stop
I do think that all the the foaming-at-the-mouth nutters having a red-faced hissy fit about yesterdays verdict, and trying to bully the judiciary will have the opposite effect, and entrench their views further.
At which point, I presume the Mail, Express et al will be calling for us all to get on the streets, and start knocking on doors, and burning books 'n shit
[i]I was talking to a mate in the pub past night who is pro-Brexit. His main motivation for leaving was to give the UK the ability to independently strike trade deals beyond the EU. He has no problem with freedom of movement and would be glad if that could continue. [/I]
Is your mate an expert in these matters, as in, does he understand the impact of us possibly losing tariff-free access to the worlds largest trading bloc in the meantime while we somehow sort these trade deals out?
FWIW the US-Australia Free Trade agreement took years (1945-2005 with the heavy lifting taking place 1997 onwards) to get in place and is negative to Australia, like you'd expect any deal with a far stronger opponent.
A norway style deal? Sounds fine to me. We get legistlation sent to us by fax machine that we have no ability to influence & simply have to incorporate into our legislature. We also get to pay for that privilege and have no influence over the size of that payment. What's not to like? I suppose we'll need to find somewhere that sells fax machines first.
😯You:
Your premise is false, I never said what you claim, and even if i did, your conclusion is false as it just does not follow that the Brexit vote was greater because they dont want to.
I dont want to work for a living. Apparently to you this means I dont work for a living.
Amusing reply.According to this thread all racists voted leave. I didn't. Therefore as long as all racists voted leave I can't be a racist
His main motivation for leaving was to give the UK the ability to independently strike trade deals beyond the EU. He has no problem with freedom of movement and would be glad if that could continue.
Yep, I've heard quite a few racists quoting drivel like that in a bid to not sound like racists.
None of the options are as good as the one we had, but as they say in France - tant pis!
Just wrote to DB to get my euros back, if there are any left. So hope th £ plummets again in the next few days.
None of the options are as good as the one we had
I think you'll find that whatever we end up with will be rendered superior by being painted with a union jack and a veneer of sneering intolerance and colonial arrogance
Get with the programme traitor!!!!
Tory Eurosceptics would be apoplectic at the thought of the Norway option.
what if we call it the Churchill Bulldog spitfire empire option?
Am I the only person that starts to feel like a bit of a bully when I debate with Brexiters? It feels like when you agree to a fight with this guy...
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Yep, I've heard quite a few racists quoting drivel like that in a bid to not sound like racists.
You have to be pretty bad at being racist to want to end immigration from predominantly white countries in favour of predominantly non-white countries.
"You have to be pretty bad at being racist to want to end immigration from predominantly white countries in favour of predominantly non-white countries."
This. Not that anyone ever really explained how Brexit would end migration from and to the UK from within the EU.
You have to be pretty bad at being racist to want to end immigration from predominantly white countries in favour of predominantly non-white countries.
but plenty voted to keep out the Turks....
Norway deal works for me as does a Swiss deal, In fact if we can actually get Swiss style railways and roads count me in! (oh we still have westminster, so were still f***ed!)
You have to be pretty bad at being racist to want to end immigration from predominantly white countries in favour of predominantly non-white countries.
Ive just had this very debate with a ranting brexiter on facebook
my (imnotracistbut...) sister-in-law justified voting brexit on the basis that if we left then Merkel wouldnt be able to send 1000s of rapist syrian refugees here, like she wants to 😯
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"Out if breath - just out of interest you understand, do you consider yourself a racist?"
According to this thread all racists voted leave. I didn't. Therefore I can't be a racist.
Fair enough. Just to check you're not a self identifying racist who voted remain and is now feeling disenfranchised?
I've given up taking conversations about Brexit seriously.
You have to be pretty bad at being racist to want to end immigration from predominantly white countries in favour of predominantly non-white countries.
I genuinely believe that most Leave voters don't even understand the difference.
cooligan - chat* with the more rabid ySers, they make Brexshiteers seem well-informed and rational
* !!
I've given up taking conversations about Brexit seriously.
Indeed, yesterday was merely a new low. Its almost got to IS levels. Not far now. Both debates are now a parody of themselves. Its breathtakingly awful.
I hope the wife got the brains in that family Kimbers ...as she chose you the jury is out on that one 😉
Norway deal works for me as does a Swiss deal
Not sure the Swiss deal is that great. Spending a bit of time wrangling about the exact form of Swiss work permit I need for my current *internal* company assignment (where we have branches both here and in Switzerland), at a cost of about 1100 CHF. Definitely worse than going to an EU country.
THM - a year ago I don't think I'd even contemplate agreeing with you on politics as often as I do now, me being a confirmed liberal lefty, champagne socialist type. So there's a positive.
Though to be fair I've even managed to contemplate voting LibDem.
I was involved in a fairly heated FB debate on the subject yesterday, I was accused of using rather broad brushstrokes when I labelled the majority of leave voters racists, xenophobes and bigots.
So I offered to excuse anyone from my board brushstrokes if they could give me a non-racist, non-xenophobic and non-bigoted reason for voting leave.
This is what my main combatant replied:
[i]My opinions are based on life experience not what I've read in a book
Go and have a walk round most towns in east lancs at night and see how safe u feel in multicultural Britain those are the reasons I voted to leave and rightly so as many other cultures don't have the same values![/i]
So basically, he thought his vote would get rid of the dangerous darkies in Burnley.
He claims not to be racist and he claims to understand enough about immigration to have a valid opinion!
Junkyard - lazarus
I hope the wife got the brains in that family Kimbers ...
dont worry its my brothers wife! my wifes a scouser so her family did the opposite of what murdoch advised and voted in !
I genuinely believe that most Leave voters don't even understand the difference.
So you think all racists voted for the least racist option but they all did so by mistake. Meanwhile all the leavers voted for the most racist option and did so fully understanding it was the most racist option, but they're not racist.
Yeah, that'll be it.
