Doe's that mean we have to start compensating Nissan already? 😉
Captain I didn't say a Nissan was going to be cheaper in the UK (contrary is true) I said a Nissan sold in Europe was going to be more profitable.
Which is obviously good for us.
The latest pictures of Carlos Ghosn bear an uncanny resemblance to the late David Gest - re-incarnation anyone?
It's a sad day when I want Tony Blair back.
Well done Theresa you make that scum bag look good.
Theresa's a remainer - she has a mandate to execute though - what should she do to keep you happy?
Go "d'you know what? This is bloody stupid - let's stay". I might even vote Tory.
None of this is complicated - Theresa May can not let the Nissans walk away the long term consequences for the uk economy are catastrophic if she let's this happen, so if we assume no cheque book has been opened then it's a 99% guarantee that we will remain in the customs union as a minimum (and probably the single market) this could also indicate that the reason the government is unwilling of discuss it's strategy is that it may not be what the knuckle draggers , far right, Brexiteers to see the "true" course of discussions - single market customs union free movement. This could be bloody interesting.
what should she do to keep you happy?
Rent a bedsit and take a massive overdose of barbiturates
looking at the exchange rate, Apple calling a 20% hike, microsoft 22%, marmite 12.5% etc next year when the real price rises start how long till the low paid start screaming from price hikes? At what point does the whole debacle get pulled?
Rent a bedsit and take a massive overdose of barbiturates
and take a home away from the proletariat... Sounds pretty inconsiderate when she already has a government funded home... Bet she would expense it too... 😈
She can't guarantee anything - she is about to enter a very protracted and complex set of negotiations with a relatively weak hand. Hence one has to assume that there are financial guarantees being offered that should be transparent. It's our money after all.
So we are getting back to the 60s and 70s with givernments adopting an industry strategy (?) involving them making choices on who to favour and by how much in an opaque manner. Governemnts track record in the former is appalling but much better in the latter. A lose:lose. And people claim that this is a lurch to the right.
"Commanding heights......"
Oh dear, the price of tea bags is going up.
At what point does the whole debacle get pulled?
Sadly it won't, cabbie today rather stand on his racist principles than take money from Lilly Allen.
People will be worse off, the poorest hit hardest, and they'll still agree with the Sun, Mail etc that 'we've taken back control !'
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cchris2lou - Member
Oh dear, the price of tea bags is going up.
What artisan rip off tea bags are you buying?
I am drinking £4.99/900g of Brooke Bond Taj (Assam) loose tea from Tesco? 😆
I don't drink tea.
Typhoo are saying that drop in £ is not sustainable for their business.
Black tea trades in $.
Typhoo sells tea I mean you call that tea? Give Typhoo tea to me and I shall put them in compose. 😆cchris2lou - Member
I don't drink tea.
Typhoo are saying that drop in £ is not sustainable for their business.
Black tea trades in $.
There are only few reasonable priced drinkable teas in the UK that you don't get rip off for. Typhoo is certainly not one of them.
I would recommend the following loose tea:
Yorkshire tea - green or red package both good.
Waitrose own brand surprisingly fine.
PG Tips.
Also Tesco Brooke Bond Taj tea ... (offer is £4.99/900g normal retail £7/900) and I have nearly 12kg of Taj tea. Yes, 12kg.
and all of them will rise as the raw commodity is priced in USDs, the only question is how is this years harvest. Like most agricultural products depending on harvest the dollar price moves. It is perfectly possible that the price in GBP will be static if commondity price moves enough in the other direction.
The more uncertain the political or economy situation the better it is for the business to make a quick profit coz most will try it on.mrmo - Member
and all of them will rise as the raw commodity is priced in USDs, the only question is how is this years harvest.
How much of the UK retail price of tea is dependent upon $ and how much is local in £ ?
Some inflation is a con (or even a slight pro) of a weaker fx rate. It's a very common strategy for a country to reduce its exchange rate to boost the economy. We have to set aside the benefit to the UK economy with higher prices for imported goods. Note higher prices will improve the trade deficit as we will buy less foreign goods. Add that to more competitve exports and you can see why countries use a weaker fx rate to boost the economy.
It's widely acknowledged that the euro is of benefit to Germany as its MUCH weaker than the Deutsche Mark would be
TMH my point is the UK is a more attractive place to build Nissans for export to Europe than it was 6
months ago. Good for Nissan which is why they are confirming new car build. Post 2019 things are less
certain tariffs vs fx rate but Govt has made a deal.
Customs Union, Single Market. Depends on the conditions attached as to whether we will stay in either. Personally I think the "Single Market" is too much of a political hot potato for the EU to deal with - they are too wedded to their unnecessary link beyween trade and freedom of movement
Off to start a tea and coffee plantation in the Cumbria high country...
I can see an obvious problem with that Mike...
The sheep will eat the tea?
[quote=teamhurtmore ]Theresa's a remainer
Theresa's a longtime Eurosceptic who was in the Remain camp because like almost everything she does she thought it was good for her career.
Or she was sensible to realise that despite its many flaws, the benefits of being part of the EU (x Eurp, Schengen) outweighed the negatives. Perfectly rationale position.
Govt has made a deal
They claim they haven't Jamba. Are you suggesting this Brexy-government is lying? Surely not.
Yep we've taken back control, Nissan calling the shots, may, does what she's told.
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Yes your hypothetical and unevidenced assertion is indeed perfectly rational- is is true though ?Perfectly rationale position.
May I see your evidence?
mikewsmith - Member
Off to start a tea and coffee plantation in the Cumbria high country..
probably a reasonable hedge against climate change 😉
afterall this exists
http://weeteacompany.com/scottish-tea/dalreoch.html
TMH my point is the UK is a more attractive place to build Nissans for export to Europe than it was 6
months ago.
Yes - you said that. And THM explained why it ain't the case. Are you going to support your statement with rational argument? Or are you just going to keep repeating it ad nauseam?*
(* that is a rhetorical question. In fact we all know the answer already.)
Its so attractive they needed cast iron guarantees from the govt that they would "protect" them from the oncoming [s]storm [/s] sorry brilliant opportunity for Blighty to be mighty once more.
. Not if they don't want to starve.aracer - MemberThe sheep will eat the tea?
Yes - you said that. And THM explained why it ain't the case. Are you going to support your statement with rational argument? Or are you just going to keep repeating it ad nauseam?*
TBF to Jambas, the answer is not clear cut. His point is clearly falsifiable though, if you think about from the parent company level.
Nissan just played a smart game and spoofed the government,
I can see an obvious problem with that Mike...
yes coffee and tea are completely alcohol free......and everyone is going to need a stiff drink everyday for the next 20 or so years
[b]£35 for 15g.[/b] I think it will be good for Scots to drink that everyday, good for health and all that ... artisan tea. Very artisan. 😆big_n_daft - Member
afterall this exists
> http://weeteacompany.com/scottish-tea/dalreoch.html
Goat definitely will.aracer - Member
The sheep will eat the tea?
Nissan is just getting political because of its French master stirring up the dirt so let them be. Their action is predictable so if they want to go then go.kimbers - Member
Yep we've taken back control, Nissan calling the shots, may, does what she's told.
Nissan is just getting political because of its French master stirring up the dirt so let them be. Their action is predictable so if they want to go then go.
Sure, lets just throw 7,000 immediate jobs and 20,000 supply chain jobs on the bonfire. That's taking back control.
I do think that some brexiters are genuinely deranged. Not just slightly unhinged, or misinformed, but truly lacking a major part of their brain that deals with logic.
Nissan is just getting political because of its French master stirring up the dirt so let them be. Their action is predictable..
Keep up chewkw. Nissan have been given secret [i]"support and assurance"[/i] by the government and now say they are staying for at least the next couple of model runs.
All very dodgy, but as the first visible major manufacturing decision after the vote we really couldn't afford for it to go any other way, so probably for the best.
...so if they want to go then go.
You'd be quite happy to wave goodbye to one-third of UK car manufacturing and 7000 jobs for the sake of sticking up two fingers at the Japanese/French? 😯
Brexit was correct we do need to be saved from these foreigners who come over here with their strange ways
If a political party was voted in that had managed to create as much of a **** up as we are currently in how long before a vote of no confidence?
It is a dare innit so I dare them to go rather than stirring up the feeling of the entire nation. They can forget their Nissan/Renult brand once and for all in the UK if they do that and let's see if their employees in France will like that. Nope, we don't buy many French cars in SE Asia and those who buy them would not buy a second one.zokes - Still not a customer
Sure, lets just throw 7,000 immediate jobs and 20,000 supply chain jobs on the bonfire. That's taking back control.
Yes, but the remainders keep saying the opposite.GrahamS - Member
Keep up chewkw. Nissan have been given secret "support and assurance" by the government and now say they are staying for at least the next couple of model runs.
Actually, we can with a bit of moaning but then it can also be a wake up call.All very dodgy, but as the first visible major manufacturing decision after the vote we really couldn't afford for it to go any other way, so probably for the best.
If a political party was voted in that had managed to create as much of a **** up as we are currently in
Er......have I missed something important?
Ongoing operating costs are now lower at Nissan than they where.
Kimbers Nissan aren't calling the shots, it was easy for the Government to offer them a potentially (most likely ?) free/cheap forward promise effective 2019 onwards to encourage them to build Qahquai's here. PR win. Apple increases prices more than the fx moves - up to them. We get 20% more VAT per sale, whether they can maintain volume we will see. Apple's sales volumes aren't a prime concern to UK Govt.
All the data is far more positive than the doom and gloom of Remain/IMF which had immediate armageddon. As the months progress focus will move to European elections and the eurozone in particular
All the data is far more positive than the doom and gloom of Remain/IMF which had immediate armageddon.
You do know we haven't actually left yet?
The timing is crucial for all UK & EU as the interesting thing to look at is the next European elections in the eurozone. Let's see how many of the current leaders will remain in power.milleboy - Member
You do know we haven't actually left yet?
Kimbers Nissan aren't calling the shots
[b]Oi, Clark get your butt over to Tokyo and tell us what you and your colleagues are going to do to compensate us for this Brexshit nonsense.[/b]
[i]Right away Sir.....[/i]
[b]Done...you have been [/b]