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The only person with any credibility throughout this whole shambles, and I'm not even an SNP voter.
Everything for you is about Sturgeon. Have you got a crush?
No. Unfortunately she spends too much time in the news instead of head down working in the interests of Scotland. Its very distracting! She is at it today again.
That's what me mates the Profs told me no more mickey mouse research if you want more money. God knows what they were saying but that's what they told me. You can argue with them if you like coz I ain't arguing with them lot.mrlebowski - Member
You will get all your money and perhaps more. Happy?
As an answer.....thats, just, really a bit sh1t..
They can cast their vote in another generations or two later if SNP is still around that is. Nothing they can do about it now.
So much for you wanting to listen to the will of the people above all else eh? 🙄
An entire country has expressed very clearly that it wants to stay in the EU (62% in favour!!) and you are happy to ignore their wishes and force them to leave without offering any other option?
You will get all your money and perhaps more. Happy?
No. Needs more evidence.
Microsoft hike cloud pricing by 22% - who do you think will be paying for that? Fujitsu laying off lots of UK staff and centralising in Europe, diesel up by 10%, Nissan juggling decisions about investment. Apparently it's all a coincidence....
The light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off as it's to expensive to run.
That is more than enough to win the referendum.The people did not vote for remain.
You clearly didn't read the Act properly, if you had, you'd have noted that there was absolutely no provision for what happens next. I would strongly urge you to read as much as you can about how a Parliamentary Democracy works, as I suspect that this concept is utterly alien to you.
In addition, you also haven't spotted the fact that the Greek Referendum on the bailout deal from the EU returned a result of 61.31% voting against.
oldmanmtb - MemberThe light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off as it's to expensive to run.
It's fine, we never needed the light at the end of the tunnel anyway, and it was only a small light that was already in decline. Soon we'll be exporting terrifying darkness to the world!
Once the A50 is signed then everyone can argue until their face turn blue.PJM1974 - Member
You clearly didn't read the Act properly, if you had, you'd have noted that there was absolutely no provision for what happens next. I would strongly urge you to read as much as you can about how a Parliamentary Democracy works, as I suspect that this concept is utterly alien to you.
Greek can do as they like. We have no business in sticking our nose in their affairs.In addition, you also haven't spotted the fact that the Greek Referendum on the bailout deal from the EU returned a result of 61.31% voting against.
Microsoft hike cloud pricing by 22%
People use Microsoft still?
[i]We have a huge Economic opportunity to refocus away from a stagnant Europe[/I]
I think that this is the thing that seriously pi55es me off, there is nothing (and has been nothing) stopping the UK from doing business EVERYWHERE in the world while inside the EU. And we've also got access to the single-market.
Except IME (over the years I've worked in countries right across the world) that we're just not as good as other countries at it in many industries.
So WTF would we want to screw our position?
I stand by statement that with a level playing field, equal campaign rescources and budget and full access to the Civil Service and official data the Leave Campaign would have won very comfortably. It woukd have helped too if Corbyn had held firm to his principals, shown leadership and Labour had campaigned for Leave.
What if they had been forced to tell the truth...
philxx1975 - Member
Microsoft hike cloud pricing by 22%
People use Microsoft still?
A great deal of people do for good reasons. How much office and business software does the UK produce?
Looks like it's time for a cost of living increase, if there was 350 million/pot of gold at the end of the rainbow it might cover teachers and nurses cost of living pay rise.
What if they had been forced to tell the truth...
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@oldman - £/$ moves 18% Microsoft raise prices 22% - opportunistic try on. Why aren't their servers in UK (I bet they are) and what costs have changed so much ? Are the servers demanding a pay rise ?
An entire country
Scotland is a ... region or a "nation". It is not a country. We went through this a million times on the referendum thread, Scotland is no more entitled to a seperate EU status as Yorkshire
Looks like it's time for a cost of living increase,
Did we all take a pay cut when £/$ was 2 as we didn't need the wages ?
By the way when £/€ was around thse levels in 2011 and 2013 did we have threads on inflation in food prices for the poor ?
Scotland is a ... region or a "nation". It is not a country.
Whaaaaaaaaaa....t? 😯
Is it just North North England in you world?
IGM if I posted such a thing I'd be accused of being a rightwing nut job keeping power with the elite.
Well you know, if everyone is referring to you that way... 😉 No one ever called a bleeding heart liberal like me right wing.
Scotland is a ... region or a "nation". It is not a country.
Try saying that on Sauchiehall Street on a Saturday night. if the locals don't get you the polis'll have you for inciting riot.
Jamba, you are right that we'll never KNOW how bad an idea Brexit is/was for ten years, but indicator after indicator, circumstantial point after circumstantial point suggests the choices are really bad or extremely bad. I also agree that in 50 years it probably won't make a difference, but we can't put lives on hold till then.
Has anyone noticed Brexit now has a Logo? 😯
Graham that point was argued about ad infinitum on the original Scots Indy Ref thread
Scotland is a ... region or a "nation". It is not a country. We went through this a million times on the referendum thread, Scotland is no more entitled to a seperate EU status as [s]Yorkshire[/s] [b]Rheghed or Elmet[/b]
FIFY
iScotland could apply like any other state to join the EU
Did we all take a pay cut when £/$ was 2 as we didn't need the wages ?
By the way when £/€ was around thse levels in 2011 and 2013 did we have threads on inflation in food prices for the poor ?
On the threads why don't you go back and look... Most government type jobs have pay deals based on rpi or cpi now if both of those go up the pay deal goes up.
As the UK is going to be so much better off isn't it time to reward those hard working and underpaid people?
We have a huge Economic opportunity to refocus away from a stagnant EuropeI think that this is the thing that seriously pi55es me off, there is nothing (and has been nothing) stopping the UK from doing business EVERYWHERE in the world while inside the EU. And we've also got access to the single-market.
Except IME (over the years I've worked in countries right across the world) that we're just not as good as other countries at it in many industries.
So WTF would we want to screw our position?
They are pretty much my thoughts, we are not really gaining anything, and just closing the door on a favourable deal in the European market. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
whether companies are trying it on or not is not important . Prices are going up if you like it or not .
in your fantasy land it wont affect you , but in the real world the majority of us will have to pay more .
@oldman - £/$ moves 18% Microsoft raise prices 22% - opportunistic try on. Why aren't their servers in UK (I bet they are) and what costs have changed so much ? Are the servers demanding a pay rise ?
Think you will find the servers in Dublin, so that means the DBAs are now c20% more expensive for the english market. And you might as well set it over the top, unless Trump wins the £v$ is only going one way for the foreseeable future.
Is it just North North England in you world?
It's just North Britton.
Graham that point was argued about ad infinitum on the original Scots Indy Ref thread
Well I'll not go all Ernest Renan then [i](Qu’est-ce qu’une nation ?)[/i] but (ex-)Kingdom, with its own capital, own flag, own anthem, own laws, own parliament, own currency (sort of), own national sports teams, and a separate social, political, Royal, military and genealogical history.
I think it easy qualifies as "country". I'll leave you to check it against Renan's criteria.
if your take democracy as meaning the belief in freedom and equality between people
a liberal democracy then - the alternative being what Graham S confirms as ochlocracy.
Graham - and the best national drink and most recognisable national dress anywhere
Scotland is a ... region or a "nation". It is not a country.
I don't think I'd ever get tired of stamping on you
IT'S NO A DRESS! 😉
It's a great step forward not to be the one that mentions Yorkshire. Yorkshire does not need to be in the EU or Uk and it certainly does not need to be part of the rest of the world. Free Yorkshie an it better be cheap!
Scotland is a ... region or a "nation". It is not a country.
I think what you meant was that Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, while being separate countries with varying degrees of autonomy, are not sovereign states in and of themselves but form the sovereign state of the United Kingdom. For the moment at any rate.
Has anyone noticed Brexit now has a Logo?
Has it? What is it?
Country hanging itself
Graham - yes indeed. Brother's wedding. Pollokshields. Matching kilts. Very young York born son asked to be page boy. Bit shy so he ended up marching in beside me before my now sister-in-law. Fantastic. He doesn't remember much from that age - but he remembers wearing a kilt.
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Has anyone noticed Brexit now has a Logo?
Has it? What is it?Goatse
Actually googling it there appear to be quite a few Brexit logos.
Maybe they all voted to have a Brexit logo and found out afterwards they'd all assumed a different logo when they voted.
[i]@oldman - £/$ moves 18% Microsoft raise prices 22% - opportunistic try on. Why aren't their servers in UK (I bet they are) and what costs have changed so much ? Are the servers demanding a pay rise ?[/i]
Even if the servers were in the UK when was the last time you saw "Made in the UK" on the back of IT kit, it's all imported. And with short service lives you've to budget for new kit and (as said previously) when the mother-company is US/Euro based the targets will be in host currencies - so immediately any business unit in the UK is already 20% behind budget.
Can someone calculate 1/(1-0.18) and explain how it is relevant to the innumerate above ^
I don't think I'd ever get tired of stamping on you
That says more about you than me
1/(1-0.18) = 1.219ish so a 22% rise due to a fall in value of the pound.
Cloud stuff is very fluid with it's pricing as it's going to the market and the costs, expect it to track exchange rates closely.
Why aren't their servers in UK (I bet they are) and what costs have changed so much ? Are the servers demanding a pay rise ?
If you compare the costs of an Azure MySQL Server to the same size MS SQL Server the majority of the cost is the license which originates in the US.
@br well if Microsoft choose to take £/€ risk by putting the servers in Ireland that's their look out. Ultimately it will depend on what Google, Dropbox and Apple do. If one has UK servers then its an issue. I don't know what the service life of servers are, maybe it is just 6-12 months. Then there are staff, premises costs, internet bandwidth costs, electricity etc. Many of these are predomintly local currency so £ if based here
jambalaya - Member
"I don't think I'd ever get tired of stamping on you"
That says more about you than me
Be careful Jamba, you really are poking a hornet's nest. Scots may be British, but Scotland is a country - just one that found an economic union convenient (due to bankruptcy) at one time. People will be buying your ski boots just so they can meet you.
And on Microsoft prices, we "voted for Brexit", they're putting up prices. Their call. You don't have to like it, or indeed care. Can I recommend going somewhere else if you don't like it? They're pretty market driven those guys and while they may have misread the situation, I bet they haven't.
#Brexiteers-v-RealWorld
PS - iPad just suggested "brexitees". do you think, is that companies relocating to warmer economic climes, or UK subjects suddenly discovering their rights to Irish passports?
jambalaya - MemberUltimately it will depend on what Google, Dropbox and Apple do. I
Amazon more like. Here's a map of where AWS servers live. Ireland and the Netherlands if EU based. London is marked as "coming soon".
https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/
So I guess cloud computing prices will go up as suggested above.
jambalaya - MemberFrom now on, the pound abroad is worth 14 per cent or so less in terms of other currencies. That doesn't mean, of course, that the Pound here in Britain, in your pocket or purse or in your bank, has been devalued.
Not sure you're making sense there Jamba!
Does anybody else imagine jamba with his fingers in his ears going "la, la, la, I'm not listening", or is it just me?