No the spelling was my dyslexia - apologies
No need to apologise for that. IQ is not affected by dyslexia (which is why I was very careful not to use academic qualifications or job level).
Do you think it might time to search for an alternative to the various forms of social functionality that we've tried up to now, including considering that Democracy may have had it's day?
I'm happy to throw my hat in the ring as a benevolent dictator. 1st ruling, no more new wheel standards.
Because they just wouldn't listen and dismiss me (like all the economic experts) as condescending and superior.
Well they may be thick but they are exceptionally good judges of character.
Do you think it might time to search for an alternative to the various forms of social functionality that we've tried up to now, including considering that Democracy may have had it's day?
Would much rather see conviction politicians as opposed to power hungry loons who've infested British Government for far too long.
You would have been dismissed implies you did not try and assumed and pre guessed the response. Which is my point and an agreement with your point about the education of the leave vote. Those with the view of remain at all levels did not do enough to ensure all voters fully understood the implications. Politicians get knocked back all the time as looking after own interest. More difficult to argue that when your social equivalent neighbours are "talking" to you
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Do you think it might time to search for an alternative to the various forms of social functionality that we've tried up to now, including considering that Democracy may have had it's day?
How about a power of 12 pyramid.
1xPrime Minster elected by
12xCabinet Ministers elected by
144 MP elected by
1728 divisional representatives elected by
20736 local councillors elected by
248832 part time ward leaders elected by
2985984 part-time community leaders each elected by
constituents.
All via internet & refreshed every-week. Anyone losing a sub drops down a level and the loss of influence ripples right up to the top
Work was decidedly grim today, a lot of European workers and students worried about their future and teams who are dependant on EU grants obviously very stressed.
The whole institute was depressed
Fk knows where we will be in a few years time
The scale of the negotiations are mind boggling.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36622842
How about a power of 12 pyramid...All via internet
Can we level up though? I would go for the charlatan skill tree. And maybe a credit system for power ups? Silver tongued devil +3 skill would come in handy.
I find it quite ironic that with this vote we have really destabilised europe, knocked billions off their stocks, hit the euro and being a stronger member of the EU weakened them. But for the next 2 years we still have financial obligations (but after article 50 no voting rights) and be bailing out the countries that we have put in more turmoil.
That should get the leave voters a little hot under the collar.
Thats the point, it's pretty hard to bull-sh*t 144 people for an extended period of time.
When will companies that pay tax in Luxembourg on profits made in UK have to start paying tax in UK?
So 18 hours or so in, where are you
1, Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
Mostly depression with quite a lot of anger still bubbling away.
Skipped the bargaining stage. What's done is done.
Anger.
Started with 5 - thanks to early run. Then slight 2 and 4 together (lunchtime/afternoon) and now 5.
All compressed. An extraordinary day with many unforeseen consequences.
Acceptance. Let's get on with the task of being a successful nation
chapeau* @mefty
What do you think the correlation between IQ and the leave/remain polarity is? Be honest now.
We've already done that - somebody (JY?) posted a link a few pages ago correlating voting against various measures including intelligence. However correlation does not imply causation and nor does that mean all Leave voters are thick.
What exactly do you think the benefit is to throwing around these insults?
*can I still use that term today?
Despair all day.
True - time to take control. Here we go.....
What a bunch of sore frigging losers you lot are. I am embarrassed to be a member on here having read all of the negative posts!
Get over it and start to embrace the challenges that lay ahead. You can all sit on this thread moaning and groaning how the so called 'thick, racist and uneducated masses' won the vote or you can ... maybe sign the joke petition for a 2nd referendum.
Well they may be thick but they are exceptionally good judges of character.
Maybe.
Aaaaaaaaaaargh. I'm just bloody annoyed. We have just voted to cut off our nose to spite our face, and done so despite a widely predicted negative impact on this country of ours, which all the leave voters profess to be so bothered about.
We have voted for uncertainty. Uncertainty spooks the markets. The markets react and we all suffer as a result.
I don't particularly like the idea that we are just flotsam on the ocean of the international markets, but [u]we are[/u]. What are we going to do? Start building autobahns?
Look at what has happened to the FTSE and sterling today. Tell me how that is good news. In what parellel universe is losing 8% of the value of your currency overnight a good thing?
I hope by some miracle this turns out ok, but I am pretty sure it won't. I am dismayed that the majority of this country have set the economy back by a good two years and I believe they have done so without thinking it through properly.
I am going to leave it there, I have probably let myself down a bit with the vitriol, but I despair of the electorate.
Leaving the EU is a massive mistake, and one that we are going to spend decades feeling the consequences of. Do you trust Johnson, Gove et al to be able to sort this out?
And just to complete my day, who crawls out from under his rock onto Nick Robinsons show......Ed Balls!!!
Urrrrghhh!!!!
What a bunch of sore frigging losers you lot are. I am embarrassed to be a member on here having read all of the negative posts!
That's quite a coincidence
But true, we will get on with it - that is except the Turkeys who are well and truly plucked.
Get over it and start to embrace the challenges that lay ahead
20% of the grants at our work probably won't be getting renewed
My wife was made redundant at xmas
Pardon me for not being full of boundless excitement at this brave new world
That's what's required. The head of Legal & General stated the exact same thing. We can collective moan and keep telling ourselves we are doomed or we can be positive and grab the challenge with 2 hands and go for it.Acceptance. Let's get on with the task of being a successful nation
If we sit around we will be toast. Whilst the markets reacted it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting. The BoE did not have to inject emergency funds and as far as I am aware the stock market did not suspend trading.
I understand people are shocked, but the only option is acceptance.
Makes me chuckle - it's all about taking back control apparently but we've already lost loads I.e. EU telling us to pack our bags & not hang around, no PM and an undemocratic vote for next PM, Scottish referendum on the cards so UK uncertainty, potential job losses been announced already....and no real plan to speak of....but one bonus..nice to know LePenn (?) agrees with the majority of us.... 😀
Swings between 4 and 5. Currently at 5 as am sat next to my near 1 year old son and frankly the country can go to hell before it comes before him
I know I said I'd leave it........but.
That's what's required. The head of Legal & General stated the exact same thing. We can collective moan and keep telling ourselves we are doomed or we can be positive and grab the challenge with 2 hands and go for it.
If we sit around we will be toast. Whilst the markets reacted it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting. The BoE did not have to inject emergency funds and as far as I am aware the stock market did not suspend trading.I understand people are shocked, but the only option is acceptance.
Can you please specify what that means 'we' need to do? I'm going to need something a bit more than wishful thinking here. I'm all for this wonderful new world where Britain is the envy of every other country, I just need someone to fill a few of the gaps on the 'roadmap'.
I'm in, it's just me and most of the economic experts who need to know where we've got the equations so wrong.
Come on dannyh, as Gove said, we're tired of experts.
Wax up that surfboard and get ready to surf the tsunami of free trade to the promised land.
Of course I cannot tell you what you need to do, but a population made up of people who have resigned the country to the scrap heap before we have even tried is not going to be conducive to the public good.Can you please specify what that means 'we' need to do? I'm going to need something a bit more than wishful thinking here. I'm all for this wonderful new world where Britain is the envy of every other country, I just need someone to fill a few of the gaps on the 'roadmap'.I'm in, it's just me and most of the economic experts who need to know where we've got the equations so wrong.
Basically, 2 options.
1) Apply for a visa to another country and leave.
2) Accept it and try and be positive. There is little else you can do and it will be much better for your sanity if you try and remain optimistic.
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) 1) Apply for a visa to another country and leave.
2) Accept it and try and be positive. There is little else you can do and it will be much better for your sanity if you try and remain
1) Have mooted this a few times, but my wife's family are very close and I like that the kids are part of a close family.
2) So blind optimism is the plan, then?
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I'm getting to like this blind optimism. All we have to do is disable the shields and blow up their big gun.
Works in Hollywood and outer space, must work here.
Thank goodness.
Am going with option 1 🙂
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I'm really warming to it now. This guy knows his onions.
Basically, 2 options.
1) Apply for a visa to another country and leave.
2) Accept it and try and be positive. There is little else you can do and it will be much better for your sanity if you try and remain optimistic.
I have another option. My local MP campaigned for leave. The constituency voted remain. I'm going to try and make his life difficult until we get another MP. Why? Because leaving is going to make my life difficult and I'm feeling petty.
The country (in terms of those who voted) was split down the middle - a 2% swing is not much of a mandate, and it's only a third of those eligible to vote.
Why shouldn't I kick out against something I don't agree with. Fight it all the way until we're actually out.
And if you're embarrassed to be here - leave, that's your stock answer to things you don't like isn't it?
RichPenny - Member
Am going with option 1
Me too.
DC is a spineless cretin. He made the mess an should stick around and take the heat while it gets sorted.
I had slightly more faith in the public, obviously they are more bigoted xenophobes than I had anticipated.
Just trying to add a little clarity and stop you lot falling into a pit of despair. Happy to move along, if you would like so you can all start listening to James Blunt and getting really depressed about the decision.And if you're embarrassed to be here - leave, that's your stock answer to things you don't like isn't it?
Before I do though, I'll give you a quote I read on a wall in a hospice.
"Worrying is like rocking in a chair. It gives you something to do, but get's you no where".
I know it's of little consolation for those who didn't want this, but the choices I listed earlier are the only options on the table.
Obviously not possible but love to know the numbers who say I am off on this and other post's and are still here in 5-10-15 years time.
I'm going to have to link to this as it is so spot-on it is tangy like sherbet.
[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/britain-in-historic-vote-that-only-a-handful-of-****s-wanted-in-the-first-place-20160623109722 ]Daily Mash sums it up in no time[/url]
I particularly like the bit about realising the EU isn't perfect.......
I really hope this pans out ok, but if it does you can tie my tits together with candy floss.
I know it's of little consolation for those who didn't want this, but the choices I listed earlier are the only options on the table
Yeah, but they didn't ****ing have to be.
Anyway I'm moving onto my second bottle of blind optimism and watching Tommy Cannon trying to cook on the telly using mascarpone that he thinks is whipped cream.
All is not lost.
Get over it and start to embrace the challenges that lay ahead.
By doing what? What have you done today to embrace the challenges?
I'm reaching acceptance but what is there I can practically do right now, other than talk about it as we are doing? (Already fixed the mortgage).
I should have mentioned that it is fairly amusing (in a very sick way) that someone on here is now using quotes from a wall of a hospice to try to make me feel better.
Just to qualify that, I hate to think of the circumstances in which anyone should be visiting a hospice, so it is not a cheap shot, I promise.
I just think it is very ironic.
