Just a reminder that grayling is only still a minister coz of Brexit
Amber rudd same boat
Within 24 hours of Amber Rudd from the UK Government damning the ‘reckless few playing fast and loose with people’s futures’, a report by i-News exposed as an egregious example the, er, UK government.
Headlined ‘Armed forces budget faces “huge” £3billion pension black hole’,
The 7.25 trillion in promises includes NHS pensions which only has 2.5 trillion in the pot to cover it.....
And these people are leading us into the brightest future of the century if we hold our nerve
It might get worse yet. Government ministers are today to hold talks with the shadow cabinet.
Just imagine..... the combined intellectual heft of Chris Grayling and Dianne Abbott?
That'll soon get everything sorted
"When I voted to leave I didn't think it would change anything for my rights to live here" -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47214093
“When I voted to leave I didn’t think it would change anything for my rights to live here” – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47214093/blockquote >
But leave-voters aren't thick, oh no.
Just imagine….. the combined intellectual heft of Chris Grayling and Dianne Abbott?
Still on the same racist bandwagon, eh?
Especially as Spain doesn't do dual nationality so staying in Spain is going to be a lot harder (more expensive) than staying in France where people are finding it easy to get dual nationality.
Its just more can-kicking though, isn’t it? It’ll resolve absolutely nothing.
The odds of an election in May are looking up. If May gets her deal through, it's job done and she'll step aside to honour her promise to tory backbenchers. If she doesn't, she'll have failed on the single task her administration is based on and will need to step aside.
Maybot is worried that a second referendum would make a mockery of British politics...it says on one of the papers
Errrmmmmmmm
Still on the same racist bandwagon, eh?
What's racist about it?
Its the default, knee-jerk, Corbynista position when its pointed out that Dianne isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the box, and most people wouldn't trust her to run a bath.
You are allowed to criticise Chris grayling though, because he's a white bloke. And a Tory.
Best to steer clear of anyone Jewish though.Unless you're sending them a death threat by anonymous Tweet
Anyway... talking of Labour, theres some shadow minister on Five Live at the moment. To quote Theresa herself 'nothing has changed'. Labour policy is still that Jeremy is apparently going to go to Brussels and negotiate a cake and eat it Brexit, ending freedom of movement, while retaining access to everything else, but not paying for it
Hurray! Cake for everybody!!!!
Dianne Abbot is not stupid. Far from it.
She is very weak at media interviews.
And getting worse.
Chris Grayling on the other hand is a master of eating up interview time without saying anything at all.
As for the cake eating, Corbyn even used the term "maintaining frictionless trade" again in parliament yesterday, while still insisting that FoM ends. He is stuck where May was approximately two years ago…
Dianne Abbot is not stupid. Far from it.
She is very weak at media interviews.
And getting worse.
Agree. Anyone weak with media these days need to go as that is what getting elected is all about (Corbyn needs to go for same reason). Policies seem secondary.
Its the default, knee-jerk, Corbynista position when its pointed out that Dianne isn’t exactly the sharpest tool in the box
Not really - it's the result of wondering why you would make an obviously untrue claim about someone, particularly when that someone was not even part of the discussion. Why do you feel the need to keep bringing up Dianne Abbot and disparaging her intellect? (How is YOUR intellect by the way? How is YOUR Cambridge first ??)
Who's Diane Abbott?
My best mate has a saying about his incredibly well qualified brother:
"He could calculate how many beans were in a tin but he couldn't tell you how to open the ****er"
indeed
If Brexit has shown us anything, across both parties, is the absolute wilful ignorance and total ineptitude from people who've had the most expensive educations money can buy. You know Chris Grayling went to Cambridge too, right? Think he's doing a good job too?
Abbot is doing an awful job. Piling in on her and calling her stupid is suspicious though, is it not? Considering she is the most abused MP on Social Media, "for some reason".
Anyway… let's get this back on topic… listening to Abbot defending Labour's current immigration policy is quite painful for me. The vilification of FoM by the Labour front bench has equalled that of the Tory front bench this year… they have gone from pretending that losing FoM is an unfortunate side effect of leaving the Single Market, to actively pushing for the ending of it at any cost.
Think he’s doing a good job too?
Clearly not, but he is not the one who is being brought up in a discussion unrelated to his responsibilities via inaccurate description of his intelligence.
Whatevs....
Anyway.... as one of our resident Corbyn fan bois could you talk us though magic grandads policy on Brexit, because to me its just more cakist nonsense?
Do you not think its ridiculous, at this stage in the game, that the labour leader is presently advocating the same policy that Boris Johnson was saying he could sort out 2 an a half years ago?
Seems about as credible as Mays latest ‘Narnia Plus’ option
Sorry to disappoint but I'm far from a fanboi. As most people know very well, JC is pro-Brexit, which will quite screw up my life. I've said a few times that there is no difference between his position and May's shitty deal.
Depressing, isn't it?
I'm struggling to understand how Kier Starmer can remain in the cabinet after having Corbyn remove his commitment to a second referendum from his letter to May after it had been agreed.
Yet another example of Corbyns legendary commitment to restoring democracy to the party, and in no way just ignoring everyone else and doing what the hell he likes, like some tinpot dictator
Just imagine….. the combined intellectual heft of Chris Grayling and Dianne Abbott?
A black, female, working class daughter of immigrants, who got into Cambridge in the 1970s. Anyone achieving that despite multiple disadvantages clearly has plenty of brain power, and to suggest otherwise says much about you.
I’m struggling to understand how Kier Starmer can remain in the cabinet after having Corbyn remove his commitment to a second referendum from his letter to May after it had been agreed.
Because unlike some of the children in the room he probably understands he has more influence in the room rather than outside of it, for instance if there are cabinet/shadow cabinet meetings then he will actually be in them
How is this possible? Is it the same as my local MP changing party? What would happen if my local MP suddenly did this?!
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1095667469757435905
Happens more than you think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_politicians_who_have_crossed_the_floor
Because unlike some of the children in the room he probably understands he has more influence in the room rather than outside of it, for instance if there are cabinet/shadow cabinet meetings then he will actually be in them
Sounds a bit like remaining in the EU really?
Presumably MEPs don't actually represent a national party as such(?), so Farage is (unsurprisingly) just talking bollox in an effort to whip up some gammon fury. IMHO 🙂
Actually… because of the difference in the voting systems, you could argue that people vote "for a party" rather than "for an individual" MORE when voting for MEPs than when voting for MPs.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/your-meps/european_elections/the_voting_system.html
Starmer was on 4 this morning maintaining that Labour's position remains unchanged, and as agreed at conferenc, if they were unable to secure a GE they would be going for a second referendum.
Well they'd better get a ****ing wriggle on then. 🙄
If Labour want a referendum then the other MPs need to start up a whatsapp without magic granddad in and campaign, as conference instructed.
That list of splitters... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_politicians_who_have_crossed_the_floor#2014%E2%80%932019_Parliament
it seems mostly in recent years it's been people quitting UKIP or the tories.
I want to see a front bench MP do it.
Starmer was on 4 this morning maintaining that Labour’s position remains unchanged, and as agreed at conferenc, if they were unable to secure a GE they would be going for a second referendum.
Well they’d better get a **** wriggle on then.
Well given they've not managed to force a GE - surely at this point they should be saying something/anything about a 2nd ref
Interesting graph from BoE on business investment…
https://twitter.com/trevorgreetham/status/1095469904965353473?s=21
https://twitter.com/trevorgreetham/status/1095589146528227328?s=21
1,500 pages!
To mark such a milestone, surely someone must have come up with an irrefutable reason why Brexit is a good idea?
No?
OK, I'll ask again at 2,000
I’ll ask again at 2,000
May will still be kicking the can down the road.
To mark such a milestone, surely someone must have come up with an irrefutable reason why Brexit is a good idea
The price of gammon?
One for Binners:
They've covered up the graffiti already - even tho they wanted it, & had police permission...
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1095690104058847234
...and still the silence is deafening....
If May does Extend article 50, then the Labour party has to immediately get shut of Magic Grandad and his cabal. He's an electoral liability and his Pro-Brexit stance has surely led to him losing all the support he had thats kept the useless beardy clown where he is. He's shown he doesn't give a monkeys about young people and is just happily following his own 1970's anti-EU agenda
https://twitter.com/coyleneil/status/1095661493822078976
If May does Extend article 50, then the Labour party has to immediately get shut of Magic Grandad and his cabal. He’s an electoral liability and his Pro-Brexit stance has surely led to him losing all the support he had thats kept the useless beardy clown where he is. He’s shown he doesn’t give a monkeys about young people and is just happily following his own 1970’s anti-EU agenda
Do you ever tire of these rants. Yes we know you don't like Corbyn, big fing deal.
Look at that fat **** Francois.
If ever there was a justification for punching someone straight in the chops, there it is.
I'd like to start a petition to have the often used phrase "The Will of The People", with all it implies, changed to "The Will of Some People".
1,500 pages!
To mark such a milestone, surely someone must have come up with an irrefutable reason why Brexit is a good idea?
No?
Yeah and I will ask again where's the austerity thread of 1500 pages?
Hmm the middle ground don't seem so enraged about it.
Do you ever tire of these rants. Yes we know you don’t like Corbyn, big fing deal.
Don't think he understands you can't please some of the people all of the time. But as long as it's Brexit then we should base the whole left case on that eh?
Yeah and I will ask again where’s the austerity thread of 1500 pages?
Hmm the middle ground don’t seem so enraged about it.
You think there will be less austerity measures if we brexit!?
No way! Who would have thought?
