'You ain't even ****ing British'. Classy. And wearing a yellow vest just like the French...
Turkey (applied on 14 April 1987), Macedonia (applied on 22 March 2004), Montenegro (applied in 2008), Albania (applied in 2009), and Serbia (applied in 2009). All except Albania and Macedonia have started accession negotiations.
Czech Republic - didn't even exist in 1992 and became a member of the EU in 2004. That's not a queue, that's a list.
What I find worrying is if we don't leave (and I hope we don't), is the affect its going to have on the racists like the guy in the video.
Brexit effectively emboldened the racists, they now think that they are right, and 52% of the country agree with them.
is the affect its going to have on the racists like the guy in the video.
If they don't like they can leave
Nice to see HSBC doing more definatley not about brexit ads, can you buy a vegan sausage roll with their banking?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46782759
‘You ain’t even **** British’. Classy. And wearing a yellow vest just like the French…
Tiny little fella, ain't he?
If we don't leave it will be because less than 50% now agree with maggots like that. Which would be a good thing.
I see the yellow vest guys have got it in for Soubry
thats one of those moments you hope someone will just knock the prick clean out....****ing war
is confused also reading an article whereby labour are now backing a cross party means to stop no deal which seems odd
Morgan said that it was time for parliament to create a mechanism to stop no deal by default. “Many of us have been clear that parliament will not allow a no-deal situation to unfold,
ok so blah blah blah people voted to leave (by whatever nefarious info they were supplied)
option 1 was leave
option 2 was remain
option 1 was the winner
how come then parliament will now stop the will of the people rather than holding a second referendum and saying do you still want to leave or do you want to remain
is it that if people vote again to leave they would be properly shafted?
if im being honest i either want to leave or remain...none of this halfway house shit
That’s not a queue, that’s a list.
Bit like a ski lift queue in France...
It's because none of them have the will, or the guts, to actually GOVERN, i.e. take the slim result of an advisory referendum as a signal to make some small changes in order to satisfy the tiny majority that are unhappy.
Ripping up the train tracks and setting fire to the station in the face of 1.8% dissatisfaction is not governance and therefore by definition not really democracy
thats one of those moments you hope someone will just knock the prick clean out….**** war
That's what he wants - to shout 'Help! I'm being repressed!' on his Youtube channel and get sympathy donations.
Tiny little fella, ain’t he?
Another thick little tosser who has done bugger all with his life and wants to blame anyone, anyone else for the fact that he is a thick little tosser who has done bugger all with his life.
I don’t give a shit what he thinks.
how come then parliament will now stop the will of the people rather than holding a second referendum and saying do you still want to leave or do you want to remain
Simple, in 2 1/2 years nobody has come up with a plan to leave that is acceptable to more than 3 people.
if im being honest i either want to leave or remain…none of this halfway house shit
How does sir want to leave?
How does sir want to leave?
either way will suit either on a plane somewhere warm or off a cliff edge and go down with the ship....looks like they're the options, its starting to look more favorable to take a chance on it because there are no other offers on the table.
The cross party letter is a rump of the non-mental MP’s from both parties, neither of which have any confidence in their hopeless ‘leaderships’ saying to them ‘can we stop this lunacy please? Before it’s too late’
My (Labour remainer) MP is one of them, and he’s been openly campaigning for a second referendum for ages now.
As above, the really bad thing is how this whole shitshow has empowered the racists, my gf has been on the receiving end of this being from Hong Kong originally, as she's noticed a definite uptick is racist arseholery since the referendum, watching their reaction to her voice is hilarious, as she has a rather plummy north London accent, having lived here since she was 4...
The cross party letter is a rump of the non-mental MP’s from both parties, neither of which have any confidence in their hopeless ‘leaderships’ saying to them ‘can we stop this lunacy please? Before it’s too late’
My (Labour remainer) MP is one of them, and he’s been openly campaigning for a second referendum for ages now.
and i get this but it looks like the non mentalists are pitching for some halfway house of never ending limbo
watching their reaction to her voice is hilarious, as she has a rather plummy north London accent, having lived here since she was 4…
When in Oz I did like to point out I was a ****ing immigrant at times, that did confuse them a lot.
I love that shouty man there is offering a war... every saturday. Yeah well he can't do a war on sunday, he's bowling with his mates. And everyone's pretty knackered on monday after work, you know?
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If you don’t think there’s a queue then you need another word for waiting in line, Scotroutes. Five in the line, three already negotiating.
Nobody is "waiting in line". I was trying to form a bit more of an argument for this but actually all I have, and all I need, is "they just aren't".
and i get this but it looks like the non mentalists are pitching for some halfway house of never ending limbo
We may have to do this step by step, first rule out no deal, then look at deals again. Throwing toys out of the pram sums up how we got here in the first place.
Leaving because you are bored is as bad as voting leave because of the Nigerian nurse.
I like the "halfway house of never ending limbo" line.
We have years of shifting sands whether we leave without a deal, or with a transition period… those that think that "no deal" means that companies and people can suddenly plan with extra certainty have spent too long listening to idiots… the terms on which we trade with most countries in the world will keep changing again and again after we rip up our EU membership and the thousands of agreements it has with third countries… we'll be rushing to put in place temporary arrangements, and then constantly adapting them as we move towards more permanent ones. No certainty ahead for a great many years. Unless we cancel A50.
Have we done Brompton's wise splashing of cash…?
https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/07/brompton-bike-parts-hard-brexit
How does sir want to leave?
And there's the rub
Leavers very clear they want to leave the EU those with a basic grasp of reality know that we'll want to negotiate a new deal with them of some form & all deals end up ceding/pooling some sovereignty in exchange for trade & other benefits.
Problem is that the Brexiteers are still doubling down on this myth of a 'clean' WTO brexit
The smarter Brexiters know this is bollox
The editor of LeaveEU shares his frustration with his fellow Brexiters..
https://twitter.com/PeteNorth303/status/1082303737975193601?s=19
We may have to do this step by step,
it was you who said after 2.5 years we were still getting nowhere ?
so id put it to you another way the situation we find ourselves in under the current leadership means we are .....having to go step by step , do i think this is to self serve governemnt , absolutely neither dare budge in the house of Jenga because they know shits going to come crashing down and neither even though they know anything with 2 braincells will never in a million years give them credibility they plough on regardless .
ruling out no deal? can that be an option, the people voted for it, the argument they have been using all along is this will spell diasaster for the democratic process so you have to honour it , but we know this is just self serving rhetoric??
however by saying lets all get together and have a plan to stop a no deal brexit and burn the 52% who voted for it, it should be as easy to say lets burn the 52% and not leave or lets burn the whole, thing and have a rerun??
if we actually had a leadership to make decisions rather than what ifs and self serving i think would eliminate the need altogether for the step by step carrot dangling
ruling out no deal? can that be an option, the people voted for it, the argument they have been using all along is this will spell diasaster for the democratic process so you have to honour it , but we know this is just self serving rhetoric??
If it wasn't for the madness of our pm everyone would probably agree no deal is suicide, should have been ruled out on day 1.
I still think as I've said before, the idiots need to reach critical mass before we'll see any governance.
That means May's deal needs to be kicked out so we then face a decision between falling off the cliff, or a retraction of a50.
No extensions, no new referendums.
Just cold hard reality.
Just watched “Brexit an uncivil war”
How accurate is the info on the targeted adverts? From my understanding I would never have seen any as I’m not in their “swayable” minority.
If the Trump campaign was run in the same way it makes a lot of sense.
Vote Leave released some of the adverts after the vote (the ones used in the film were actual ads) and the amount spent, but the other linked campaigns (Leave.EU, BeLeave, DUP, and many others) did not, so assume the spend and scale of the advertising was far larger than the known billion ads.
The fact that the football scam one, the polar bear one, and the (not in film IIRC) bull fighting one have not since become "famous" is a good guide to why targeted political advertising is so dangerous … must people have no idea what others have seen and are voting based on. How to you respond to messaging if you haven't seen it? Would you bother trying to reassure your relatives that the plight of polar bears and bulls is not related to our membership of the EU in any way? Why would you think that was part of the campaign messaging if you never see the ads?
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ruling out no deal? can that be an option, the people voted for it, the argument they have been using all along is this will spell diasaster for the democratic process so you have to honour it ,
Nobody voted for no deal.
Nobody voted for no deal
You know what....your actually right
Now I'm completely puzzled how we ended up here ah was it was no deal is better than a Shite deal
In an in. The brexiteers go on about "foreigners dictating " & yet the Tories bunged a billion quid bribe to the dup. Ireland's a different country. I didn't believe the big red bus. I don't believe the elite. The instigaters of brexit have now run off. Rees mogg has put his money abroad. There's going to be little or no benefit from brexit won't be seen for 50 years. Thanks for buggering up my kids future brexiteers 😠
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The brexiteers go on about “foreigners dictating ” & yet the Tories bunged a billion quid bribe to the dup. Ireland’s a different country.
Er, DUP are from NORTHERN IRELAND, thats the one that's part of the UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND not the REPUBLIC OF IRELAND.
They send elected representatives to Westminster just like the Welsh ad Scottish.
HTH
Nobody voted for no deal.
And nobody voted for any kind of deal either. One just didn't exist, they voted to leave the EU. How never came into it. At least according to most people I've spoken to who voted leave.
If it wasn’t for the madness of our pm everyone would probably agree no deal is suicide, should have been ruled out on day 1
Yes it should. It would have been an even wiser move now and avoided all the cost and pretense around preparing for no deal (i.e. 5,000 fridges).
If you took the politics out of it this would have been done, in fact an independent body should have been in charge of getting deal, assessing impacts and then offering it back to parliament to vote on but we know it doesn't work like that.
80 days to go. Still waiting for news of all the tremendous trade deals that little Liam Fox has been busy rushing around the world and lining up, to enable all that lovely money to start flooding into the U.K. after the drawbridge is pulled up...
Nobody voted for no deal.
If we end with a no deal brexit then that is exactly what the 52% voted for
Why would you think that was part of the campaign messaging if you never see the ads?
Plus with targeted messages you can promise contradictory things to different groups.
Although admittedly the brexit lot did this in public as well.
Nobody voted to be told what to do by the WTO.
What people DID vote for they aren't getting.
If we end with a no deal brexit then that is exactly what the 52% voted for
For some maybe, but folk voted for all sorts of things. Given that we were being promised that we could have our cake and eat it and how it was going to be the "easiest negotiation in history", I suspect that most folk voted for cake.
Nobody voted to be told what to do by the WTO.
Unless that's where we end up, in which case, again, its exactly what the 52% voted for.
For some maybe, but folk voted for all sorts of things.
It may not be what they wanted or what they thought they were voting for but it will be what they actually did vote for
Have we done Brompton’s wise splashing of cash…?
Some idiot tory MP was trying to spin the sudden stockpiling of parts in case of a hard Brexit as 'economic growth'. Like it was a good thing!
Just reinforcing what has become apparent for a long time. That the people leading the charge out of Europe are actually totally economically illiterate, and have no concept of how the 21st century globalised economy functions.
They're take on it seems to be that more economic activity (in people stockpiling stuff) is a boom to the economy. No, its because they're desperately trying to avert an economic catastrophe - one that you've totally unneccessarily brought about - you total ****ing half-wit!!!
if we actually had a leadership to make decisions...
...they would decide that a slim majority in an advisory referendum is no grounds for such a massive switch in our relationship with Europe.
Nobody voted for no deal.
I think that's exactly what most Brexiters were voting for.
I think that’s exactly what most Brexiters were voting for.
Really? It never made the propoganda, when it did it was being explained as a really bad idea by the architects of brexit. Even now it has very low support but lots of coverage due to the erg etc.
