Says in the paper that maybot 2.0 is pressing control alt delete again and pausing the vote
I'm voting for an absolute revolution in this country if she does fighting burning and turning the god damn country into a warzone....if she wants a dictatorship she can have the background setting for it
the DUP want the border to stay exactly as it is whilst remaining in the UK - a massive fly in the pie for TM. I think that bribing isn't the answer, the magic money tree paid out to get them to support the tory govt but looks like it won't cut it now.
So Jeremy? How about that vote of no confidence? No? Not yet?
The Tory party rank and file are a bunch of doddering pensioners who neither know nor care about reality. My FIL thinks it's all a jolly jape even with his son facing the loss of his job and being split from his wife and child.
So Jeremy? How about that vote of no confidence? No? Not yet?
Going to be a bit quiet as parliament is not in session. Doing it based on rumour of what might happen is not the best way. She needs to either present it and it voted down OR she pulls it. Until one of those things happens it's not the right time. As above the first thing that needs to happen is the DUP vote against her.
So Jeremy? How about that vote of no confidence? No? Not yet?
FFS. Ignoring the fact that parliament isn't even sitting yet, can you explain what difference this will make? Other than being a convenient excuse for anti-Corbyn obsessives to bleat about him that is.
The Tory party rank and file are a bunch of doddering pensioners who neither know nor care about reality.
The average age of Tory members is 57, the average age of Labour members is 54.
If she does pull / postpone the vote again, then surely a vote of confidence is the 'right' thing to do, whether it would suceed or make any difference I'm not sure but it would suggest a govt that knows it can't function. Will be interesting to see what happens when parliment returns next week.
Going to be a bit quiet as parliament is not in session.
FFS. Ignoring the fact that parliament isn’t even sitting yet
Yes I'm aware of that, just a heads up for next week.
Trust me, this is not what the DUP want. They fear/hate the ROI and want a hard border (they know the problems it'll cause the ROI). They can't openly say it but it's been their goal since day one. The DUP create problems, not solutions and are trying to force TM to do their dirty work.
the DUP want the border to stay exactly as it is whilst remaining in the UK – a massive fly in the pie for TM.
love the irony of Ramsgate harbour being dredged for no deal brexit possibility when the last time it was dredged it was partially paid for by the EU 🙂
The average age of Tory members is 57, the average age of Labour members is 54.
You really shouldn't post guesses as facts.
You really shouldn’t post guesses as facts.
I dont, it is based on survey data by Queen Mary's University London, although I think the Labour figure might have been 53 in the original survey, it was misquoted by one of the academics.
dont, it is based on survey data by Queen Mary’s University London, although I think the Labour figure might have been 53 in the original survey, it was misquoted by one of the academics.
I know where you got it from, and a link to your source would've been nice. You posted as fact numbers from a single survey that the researchers admit has considerable uncertainty.
It is the best estimate we have, pretty much every figure posted on a political or economics thread is based on surveys that is how pretty much all government statistics are generated. I was reminded of it today reading twitter and unfortunately I have not had a great deal of success in linking to tweets so don't waste my time any more.
And there, in a nutshell, is the argument for Brexit.
It is the best estimate we have
It may well be, but it's not a good one, so why post it as fact?
ah, I wasn't the only one to notice mefty's sleight of hand turning another opinion into fact then?
To be fair to mefty, the average may be pulled down a bit by the likes of me joining in order to get a meaningful vote.
Other than being a convenient excuse for anti-Corbyn obsessives to bleat about him that is.
So what would binners do with all that spare time?
Stupid questions time;
How much does it cost to join the 2 main parties?
If I were to do so, would that give me an opportunity to vote on the issues?
If I were to do so, would that give me an opportunity to vote on the issues?
You have to be an MP to do that.
If I were to join labour would I be able to push for a pro eu agenda?
Like most of the current members?
Clearly doesn't work that way.
I meant within the party, like zippykona is asking.
No, being a member does not allow you to vote on issues or push any agenda. You are basically supporting the party (monetarily) so it can exist and do the things it needs to do as a party.
If you want more of a say then you need to become a Labour MP (in theory)
No, being a member does not allow you to vote on issues or push any agenda. You are basically supporting the party (monetarily) so it can exist and do the things it needs to do as a party.
As a member you can participate in policy making and vote in internal elections.
Any one fancy a pint at weatherspoons
Brexiteer Wetherspoon boss Tim Martin came to speak to punters in Manchester - but was he talking 'absolute b******s'? - Manchester Evening News
That photo of Madeleina sticking her tongue out is just glorious.
No the members get to vote on various issues, though it varies by party. Eg the tory members have a vote in the leadership - though that only kicks in once the MPs have reduced the candidate list to 2 (and last time at that point the 2nd candidate pulled out leaving no need for a vote). But living in a safe parliamentary seat I don't have any chance of a meaningful vote in the parliamentary elections. Membership was 25 quid. Yes I'm supporting them with some money. I actually think they would be a better party if they had a broader base of support rather than relying on a handful of senile pensioners and a smaller number of oligarchs with deep pockets.
There is something seriously wrong when people feel then need to protest about a shop offering a vegan option.
No the members get to vote on various issues, though it varies by party. Eg the tory members have a vote in the leadership
How is that voting on issues, forcing a pro EU agenda etc,. I have never seen where I can vote directly on issues, policy, direction of party. It can be done indirectly (very) by voting on committee members but that is all I have ever seen.
I'm not claiming it's perfect but it's better than nothing. I've been asked my opinion several times in email polls too. As a mere punter I get one meaningless GE vote every 5 years and the local Tory wins anyway.
As good an explanation for May pushing ahead with her deal as I've found anywhere
Mrs May conflates her survival with the national interest. In all cases this conflation is dangerously self-serving and as far away from “strong and stable” as it is possible to be.
A good article in today’s observer by Andrew Rawnsley (as always) for those hopelessly naive members of his fanclub who are still in denial about Corbyn not being a raving Brexiteer, or still under the misguided delusion that he cares about representing anyone’s opinion other than his own
To stop Brexit, labour supporters will have to revolt against their leader
Democracy at work
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Brexit: Theresa May hints she will force MPs to vote multiple times on her deal if she loses
If at first you don't win have another vote
Irony so big I will be able to build a housing estate on the board.
There is something seriously wrong when people feel then need to protest about a shop offering a vegan option.
It was a joint 'Free Tommy Robinson/Ban Vegan Greggs' protest if that makes it any better.
It was a joint ‘Free Tommy Robinson/Ban Vegan Greggs’ protest if that makes it any better.
They were told that the vegan meat was prepared using halal methods.
They were told that the vegan meat was prepared using halal methods.
The fact I can't tell if you're joking or not makes me sad.
Also, newsthump really needs to change the way it's website looks. There are times I genuinely forget whether I'm looking at the BBC or not.
The fact I can’t tell if you’re joking or not makes me sad.
Yes I was joking. The absurdity of real life though really does blur the lines.
I wish we still had Spitting Image
The fact I can’t tell if you’re joking or not makes me sad.
Did you hear the one about the ferry company with no ferries and a port that can't take a ferry anyway....
#SatireIsTakingABreak
So having caught the highlights of the Maybot teaser trailer for her new improved deal, nothing has changed and if she can wait as long as possibly before admitting that there is less time to look bad.
