Keep low skilled jobs for British workers! During the Blitz we all dug our own cabbages.
Education to the highest levels is available to all and dont anyone whine about student loans.
Can't argue with this. Anyone with an internet connection and something to view information on has at their fingertips more learning resources than anyone else ever has at any other point in time. Free of charge as well if so inclined, so you don't need to go to univeristy to get a great education if debt is a worry. Plenty of companies out there will take people on as a degree apprentice, work and earn whilst you learn. Government grants given out to employers to send their employees off to training courses. Just need to think a bit about the options that area ctually out there and stop with the mentality that leaving school and straight into university is the default.
You don’t need to go via Eton & Cambridge, to a city hedge fund to make a success of your life.
True, but its much ****ing easier and more likely to happen if you start off at Eton.
How do we encourage people to be better educated and gain skills we will need?
Make sure less kids grow up in poverty, reverse cuts to things like sure start, reverse cuts in schools and not charge a ****ing shit load of money to go to uni.
Anyone with an internet connection and something to view information on has at their fingertips more learning resources than anyone else ever has at any other point in time.
I teach plenty of kids without the internet at home.
Plenty of companies out there will take people on as a degree apprentice, work and earn whilst you learn
Define "plenty" and compare it to those that want graduates and then look at earning rates 5 years after graduation, then maybe 10 compared to those with no degree.
Autoentrepenur helps but starting a proper business in France that employs people is very very expensive.
Done that too. 10 years with an SARL with up to 9 employees. We made a profit in the first year and every year thereafter. I'd rather have a business in France than the UK, more chance of being paid and less chance of being taken down by some cliunt deliberately bankrupting his business having syphoned off the cash into some bank account in Malta/Gibralta/IOM.
I teach plenty of kids without the internet at home.
No, all poor people are spending all their cash on iPhones all round, everyone knows that!
So you think 25% tax on turnover makes sense?
France has very few "new" small businesses, most French graduates wander off to other parts of the world.
Hmmmm - looks like Tommy's march (sorry UKIP's No Brexit betrayal or whatever it was called) fell a bit short of 700 000...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46495595
I really wish we could get a an accurate estimate of how many turned up. I'm also bit disappointed ol' Moggster or Boris didn't turn up to receive the adulation of the crowds 🙂
If a Norway plus deal was achieved would we notice any difference in our day to day life compared to what we have now?
Would the multinational companies still look to relocate to the mainland?
Would EU workers still be able to work in our hospitals and pick our food?
Could I move to Majorca and use their hospitals?
Will goods be held up at the ports?
Can I still buy stuff tax free from the mainland?
most French graduates wander off to other parts of the world
Could you show your working out on that?
I used to work for a big employer offering degree apprenticeships - we'd stop taking applications when we reached 100 applicants for every job because we knew that 6/10 were good enough candidates - there simply aren't enough about.
The problem is we have many big employers e.g. retail and hospitality who abuse the system, offering minimum wage / zero hours contracts for maximum 16 hours/ week and expect people to claim benefits to top-up and yet pay big dividends to their shareholders every year.
But hey, when we've driven all the foreign tourists away from our xenophobic cul-de-sec they won't be spending their money here either, never mind come here to work.
The skilled migrant thing is nonsense as we have a chronic shortage of NHS staff who don't qualify and we continue to charge student loans for nursing.
I'm predicting another retail disaster in the New Year - consumers aren't spending right now because of all the economic uncertainty.
Anagallis just search on google... the city has a very large young French community. They are also learning chinese as a second language.
Dovebiker i agree retail, hospitaility and restaurants are in big trouble.
This situation as it stands can easily spiral into something truly serious.
"En 2017, 591 000 entreprises ont été créées en France"
I think a 25% tax on turnover is a fine idea that allows people to get started and know exactly how much they have to pay. It clearly works better for services than selling goods but it allows people to get started and then chose the legal status that best fits their business as turnover grows.
Junior is also self-employed in Germany for work he does there as well as being self-employed in France. It's a similar system but about 17% there but, big BUT, he would have to pay an expensive health insurance if he weren't covered by his French health insurance. Next year he'll have to go fully native in Germany and it'll be a lot more than 25%.
Oh so it’s a bandwagon now then. I see.
Today, one out of four French university graduates wants to emigrate, “and this rises to 80 per cent or 90 per cent in the case of marketable degrees”, says economics professor Jacques Régniez, who teaches at both the Sorbonne and the University of New York in Prague. “In one of my finance seminars, every single French student intends to go abroad
I walk out into the Cairngorms for a coupe of nights tomorrow. What’s the odds that when I take my phone out of flight mode on Wednesday lunchtime that our nation will be without a Prime minister?
You're getting closer to reality now Oldmanmtb. Now ask the same question at the LSE or even on this forum. Lots of people dream of emigrating and "want to". Have a look at the recent New Zealand thread on here. Some do, some just dream. I've worked in the UK, Germany, Spain and France (where I've spent most of my life). Different places, different cultures, different rules, choose your pleasure/poison. Turn it around FFS, who would dream of spending their entire working life in one country?
most French graduates wander off to other parts of the world
Today, one out of four French university graduates wants to emigrate, “
Maths not a strong point of yours and thats before we think about what they want rather than what they do.
When I graduated, only 3 or 4 of my year went abroad, and I am the only one who stayed after a few years. French likes to think it is better abroad but when it comes to it they like their home.
So edukator..
France
Start up costs €5000
First three months turnover €15000 Gross profit (a guess) €7500 net profit (a guess)€1500
Tax after 3 months €3750
So gross profit + net profit (€16500) less investment (€5000) and tax bill (€3750) = €7750 / by 3 months to run your business pay wages, rent and a salary for yourself and all the above assumes you make a healthy profit on your first three months....
A year one tax bill of €15000... on turn over, in the real world most business ventures make no money in year one.
In the UK you have been able to claim tax relief on both investment and operating costs if you were fortunate enough to make a profit. So in year one you would NOT have a €15000 bill to pay.
There is no comparison between the UK and France. The personal risk in France in respect to starting a business that employs people is exponentially greater than the UK.
25% tax on turnover is nuts. I don’t see how small businesses likes cafes could do it.
Not my words folks, It was a French Economics Professor, but i agree intentions and actualittes are different.
Who would spend most of their lives working in one country - most people, well poor people anyway.
Turn it around FFS, who would dream of spending their entire working life in one country?
52% apparently.
And what's really sad is that those at LSE who dream of life in 27 countries they can currently move to and start a business or get a job, will soon be faced with the same obstacles as other people from outside the EU. But it hasn't happened yet so there's still hope.
Edit: I use the LSE example as a family member studied there and now runs a software start-up in London. His wife is Spanish which obviously isn't an issue at present but will be if Brexit goes through. She's Spanish, Spain doesn't allow double nationality and there's no way she's giving up Spanish nationality so he's planning on moving his start-up to Spain if push comes to shove. The double nationality thing could hit a lot of people as several European countries allow double nationality with other EU states but not with others so people will have make a choice. If ever I have to make a choice I'll be joining the queue for a visa to visit the country I was born in.
Not my words folks
Yes it ****ing was!!
most French graduates wander off to other parts of the world
You just made something up to support your view and then tried to back it up with "evidence" that said something else.
News just in.
Oldmanmtb. On the basis of your example at the bottom of the previous page you'd be better going straight for an EURL/SARL in which case your tax and social security payments woud be about 50% (assuming the business needs to be VAT registered) of the money you paid yourself but a much smaller proportion of turnover than 25%.
You really need to understand how tax and social security systems work in each country before trying to compare them. The public sector is bigger in France than the UK as a proprtion of GDP so yes the total tax burden is likely to be higher (but not in every case). The level of service is also higher which means you don't pay for as many services privately. This mainly benefit s the poorer in society and the people least able to look after themselves. I'm happy with that, so are most of the people I know, which is why 75% of people are sympathetic to the causes of the gilets jaunes even if they don't support their violent methods.
I agree and understand how France works well at a basic level anyway, my point is it is difficult from an entrepreneur point of view and yes the public sector requires more cash (tax)
Eerr it was not my statement it was the words of a French Economic Professor??
Good article Educator not seen it prior
I was going to post a link to that article about the progressive europe thing. It's a simplistic view, but I reckon the main difference between Europe and the UK is that in Europe they recognise the simple fact that if you want first class infrastructure, public services, the ability to tackle things like climate change and poverty, then you have to pay for those things through taxation. The UK on the other hand wants the same but without having to pay for it. We really do specialise in wanting our cake and eating it don't we?
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Bwahahaahah the ****.
Tommy scares me though, he strikes me as weirdly more intelligent than Boris or Mogg - in a troll kind of way, I reckon he's better at political trolling than Trump. He is much more dangerous than a lot of people are led to believe.
There are economics professors to represent every political ideal with their own agendas and a discours that reflects that. It would be intersting to hear what Picketty's students have to say because if you are a socialist humanist republican you are more likely to sign up at Toulouse than the Sorbonne. Junior is leftward leaning (to the point of falling over) and after Science Po is now at the Humbolt following in the footsteps of Marx.
We really do specialise in wanting our cake and eating it don’t we?
Absolutely. And Barry Gardiner was exemplifying that very national trait this evening on C4.
WTF
Conviction for the assault of a police officer.
Convictions for public order and drug offences.
Conviction for illegally entering a country under someone else's passport.
Conviction for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.
Conviction for contempt of court (Conviction since quashed, we await a re-trial.
Imagine if this was the conviction list of a Muslim!
Interesting article on who is backing the gobshite: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/07/tommy-robinson-global-support-brexit-march
Degree level education opens up huge opportunities to decent jobs.
Well it used to. When I graduated in 1976 in Civil Engineering I was pretty much guaranteed a job as a Civil Engineer. These days it seems large numbers of graduates end up in call centres.
I thought Caroline lucas came across very well and spoke alot of sense in the c4 debate. Not impressed with Labour tonight which I find troubling. Mogg had nothing intelligent to say.
Hmmmm – looks like Tommy’s march (sorry UKIP’s No Brexit betrayal or whatever it was called) fell a bit short of 700 000…
That bloke on the right of the photo of Batten... Why the paramilitary style beret?
Why the paramilitary style beret?
I've no idea.....
No, surely not?
