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Maybe they’re not a nation where racist simpletons are in the slight majority? 😉


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:16 pm
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If anything, it’s a pretty damning indictment of the expensive U.K. private education system. From Cameron through to this half-wit, we’re in this mess due to the rank stupidity and incompetence of people who’ve had the most expensive education money can buy

more like evidence that the privileges obtained in the private education system enable the less bright people to actually become PM and other things they would never have got to otherwise.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:16 pm
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Maybe they’re not a nation where racist simpletons are in the slight majority? 😉

First i like Switzerland, but you really should go and research some of the questions and the results!


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:24 pm
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They have a lot of referendums but they also have the good sense to ignore the stupid results.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:27 pm
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Maybe they’re not a nation where racist simpletons are in the slight majority?

Not spent much time in Switzerland then...


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:31 pm
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I think May has 280 Tory MPs that might vote for her deal, she has 15 (minimum) Labour votes.

This gets her to 295....

Question is how many abstentions could there be?

Gove has stuck it out and he is mercenary i think he thinks it might just make it...

This would leave him the first choice as leader for the next GE.

JRM shouted charge and no one followed.

The rank and file of the Tories is very quiet.

The rank and file of the Labour Party is very quiet.

Might get down  the bookies and stick a few quid on it.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:37 pm
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So you can be a minister. quit because you didn't tell the truth to parliament, and be back in because there is no one else left

Really????


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:37 pm
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The Tory part just get worse & worse... Where is the punishment for doing your job wrong? Anyone else who diplays the current level of ineptitude in the government would be sacked & possibly face criminal charges... They're all made of teflon, nothing sticks.

& it's kind of a shame this thread has become a remain echo chamber - I would love the get the STWleavers take on current events


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:40 pm
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she has 15 (minimum) Labour votes.

This is where I would imagine the the number to be much higher.  A lot of Labour MPs don't like Corbyn so would happily go against in a matter this important to them.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:42 pm
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If this were referendum isn't legally binding ....

can i just stay in Europe on my own


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:44 pm
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& it’s kind of a shame this thread has become a remain echo chamber – I would love the get the STWleavers take on current events

were they banned or just shouted down

Or

did they change their user names and become remainers


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:46 pm
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Steve Barclay the new Brexit Sec.  No idea who he is but this part of his wikipedia page leapt out at me:

Barclay was named by Conservative Home as one of a minority of loyal Conservative backbench MPs not to have voted against the government in any significant rebellions.<sup id="cite_ref-12" class="reference">[12]</sup>


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:46 pm
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I would love the get the STWleavers take on current events

No chance. Followed their hero Boris in expelling a load of hot air, wasting a lot of everyone's time, and then flouncing when the slightest bit of heat came on. Currently laying low.

Predictable.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:49 pm
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Not spent much time in Switzerland then…

And

First i like Switzerland, but you really should go and research some of the questions and the results!

There was however, a study done recently by PEW that showed that Brits were more against Jews or Muslims marrying into the family than any other nation in Europe bar Italy.

So it would seem that we are even more racist than the likes of Austria - we're just polite about it.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 5:55 pm
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^^ Not even so polite these days....


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 6:00 pm
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I genuinely thought the Leavers in the thread had been banned since I last dipped my toes in to here?

Not over their opinions but manner of extolling them perhaps?

Much better if they did  just fall away from the thread over time though. How much does that day about the situation?.....


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 6:02 pm
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I knew I had seen yesterday before...


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 6:26 pm
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I very much doubt 15+ labour voters will back the deal.  Hoey has said she won't 'cos its not a proper leave and it won't satisfy Stringer either.

I would be surprised if half a dozen will 'cos Mays deal is too soft for the rabids and those who believe that the "will of the people must be respected" are generally remainers by instinct so will be able to square voting down the deal as it not being good enough.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 6:31 pm
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Surely we can now call leavers  thick  idiots etc...

Following yesterday debacle it has to be official


 
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Not even so polite these days

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/06/01/qa-measuring-attitudes-toward-muslims-and-jews-in-western-europe/

Apparently, some people still wonder why Jews want their own state when they could live in Britain or America - roflmao.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 6:34 pm
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Amber Rudd back in cabinet!

Who will be next? If things get any worse they’ll be asking the dude who was spanking his monkey to Internet grot on a government laptop back!

Ask yourselves this. The loony brexiteers know that a no deal will be an economic cataclysm. They know they’ll most likely be ousted at the next election and off into the wilderness, so this can’t be about long term power.

What Brexit is really about is them enabling their spiv mates - short sellers and smash and grab outsourcing firms to make a one-off killing as they feed them the inside track and bring the NHS finally to its knees. For a cut, of course.

We would rightly traduce them and maybe even try to prosecute some of them, but it will be too late. The money will be offshore and they’ll be gone.

Brexit is the heist of a lifetime.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 6:46 pm
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Bang on! These nutters want the chaos of a no deal Brexit so they can finally, amongst the anarchy and the financial meltdown,  force through policies they wouldn’t have a chance of getting through otherwise.

The banking crisis was a dress rehearsal for the main act to come.

Hope you all enjoyed the NHS and the welfare state while it lasted. Their days are now numbered


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 7:44 pm
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Kind of looking forward to it Binners, the plebs will be reminded that we aren't all in this together and there is no such thing as patriotism only self interest. And me and the wife will hopefully get taxed less in a Singapore type economy.

**** them all.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 7:50 pm
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Nice.

= :87(


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 8:09 pm
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There was however, a study done recently by PEW that showed that Brits were more against Jews or Muslims marrying into the family than any other nation in Europe bar Italy.

Doesn't shock me In the slightest,


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 9:48 pm
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The loony brexiteers know that a no deal will be an economic cataclysm.

Are you sure? They may not grasp the subtleties in that they are and always have been from money. They may just think that they can go back to the past and live in downton abbey.

Never underestimate stupidity or think there is a plan


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 10:15 pm
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Gove staying on feels like a game changer.  If one of the main protagonists of vote leave is staying in government and supporting the deal then it sends a message to the loonies that there isn’t a better option out there.


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 11:17 pm
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 If one of the main protagonists of vote leave is staying in government and supporting the deal then it sends a message to the loonies that there isn’t a better option out there.

Unless he stands up and publicly says this is the best that can be done it means nothing...


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 11:43 pm
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5 Brexit ministers are going to convince the PM of a tiny, weeny change to the draft proposal.lol

Nothing big, just ditch the back stop and use "technology"/ unicorn farts instead. Yeah, the EU are really going to go for that.... Delusional or what.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46243745


 
Posted : 16/11/2018 11:53 pm
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So many genuine things we need to fix on this country (+the world)

Instead were sucked into this naval gazing crapshow of brexit for a decade


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 12:06 am
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lol send a message to the loonies? they don't want a better deal, that is where you are missing the real aims of the ****s


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 12:11 am
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Gove has stayed to renegotiate the deal in his head so he can come out of this as the saviour of brexit and thus be crowned PM.  His ambition far outstrips his abilities


 
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Unless he stands up and publicly says this is the best that can be done it means nothing…

Once the dust settles a great deal more MP's might come to the realization that it's  actually that. The NI Ireland border is the huge Elephant in the room, and to date I haven't heard a better solution than whats on offer (kicking it down the road and hoping for an epiphany). If TM stays as PM, were leaving with her deal or no deal. Given that choice it might just get voted through.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 1:49 am
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A decade, kimbers? I see you are in an optimistic phase.

I'm planning on it lasting for the rest of my life. Brexit will only end when it is widely recognised that it is the plaything of a bunch of public schoolboys who don't give two hoots about the rest of the country. And given the awareness of the typical voter, I'm not holding my breath on that.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 5:20 am
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So Gove’s hanging around to see if he can sort things out a bit. It’s like he’s saying that it’s better stay and change things from within rather than have a toys out of the oram hissy fit isn’t it? There’s some kind of parallel out there somewhere but I can’t quite put my finger on it.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 8:24 am
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The loony brexiteers know that a no deal will be an economic cataclysm.

Yes, they are disaster capitalists but don't want to say it too loud.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 8:58 am
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I wonder whether there are actually 48 Conservative MPs with enough gumption to write those letters.

If not, it will be hilarious, as we will all be living with this deal for evermore.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 10:34 am
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So the year is 2025

May is still PM & determined to get a brexit deal agreed by the next EU summit.

Baker & Mogg are promising that there will be 48 letters in sometime next week.

Damian Green has just resigned as brexit secretary for the 2nd time (inappropriate touching of Sabine Weyands knee) Larry the Downing St cat is tipped to be the 33rd person in that roll, but we're still not desperate enough to call on Nadine Dories

Support for a people's vote is now at 85% (the 2020 Statin rationing debacle really ate into the leave vote)  but Labour & Tories still adamant that the will of the people takes precedence over the errr, will of the people.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 11:16 am
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So the Brexiters plan to get May to shift on the deal do they not realise its the EU they need to shift?

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46243745 <


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 11:40 am
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Guy Verhofstadt on Radio 4 on Thursday morning was saying there is no way the EU would renegotiate.

As someone from NI, this Brexit thing really does look like uncontrolled English nationalism.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 11:45 am
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So the Brexiters plan to get May to shift on the deal do they not realise its the EU they need to shift?

It's OK it's normal to expect nobody in the eu to read this.

It's as if the fantasy is still going.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 11:47 am
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I think the maybot might be in trouble from the remainers in her party too, if they think they can get a candidate that will offer a second 3 way ref they could vote with the erg nutters. (assuming the 48 letters are forthcoming)


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 1:08 pm
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Conservative Home have just backed Savid Javid for next PM.


 
Posted : 17/11/2018 1:27 pm
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this is what my first thoughts were for Conservative Home

I did have to google it....

Time to split them properly, we want a Remain vs Leave battle to decide the leadership


 
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