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having spoken to a few Brexiteers, you do have to wonder how patriotic they are. I get the feeling that a lot is English nationalism, to hell with the UK. If Scotland, NI leave so what.
There were good old days, for most people – the days when you were young, usually. Almost every older person wishes for the days when they were young. And for most oldies now that’s pre EU or at least early days of it.
All depends what you consider the pro and cons of any age to be. If you really don’t want foreigners in the country (plus like a bit of sexual and racial discrimination) then the 50’s were a golden age. Rationing was over and prosperity as starting. Was all going well until that equality and rights stuff started to come along in the along in the 60’s and 70’s
Yeah but folk would still still have been moaning about this, that and the other then as well as now. And it would have been someone else’s fault then too. Miserable ****ers being fed a diet of ‘gone to the dogs’ tripe by the likes of the Fail. Depressing, really.
In similar news, the patriotic DUP, sorry KKK appear to be hitting the campaign trail early:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46011779
Surely there should be two commemorative coins, one pro, one anti, to represent the 50-50 nature of the vote and the divided nation we are left with.
Better still the two sides could be "**** brexit" vs a unicorn.
What? The remainer lion -v- the Brexy unicorn fighting for the crown?
Like it.
My former Remain Tory MP has yet to confirm whether my stepson is going to have to go without insulin after March, stating that the government are “looking into stockpiling vital medicines”. To see that a commemorative 50p is being issued is an insult.
I’m quickly coming round to Alan Sugar’s way of thinking - we need a public inquiry and if politicians openly lied or misled voters prior to the referendum vote in June 2016 then they should face trial.
What? The remainer lion -v- the Brexy unicorn fighting for the crown?
Surely the unicorn would be the Remainer, given that Scotland voted remain and the unicorn is the national animal of Scotland?
Also the unicorn should have a chain round its neck to represent the will of the people being forced upon it.
Graham - you know I never knew that? I always assumed the lion was Scots as in Lion Rampant (the English lions actually being leopards as I recall).
Checking I can find references to both lion and unicorn as national animals for Scotland - but only a lion for England.
Although...
Although in England the official blazon refers to "lions", French heralds historically used the term "leopard" to represent the lion passant guardant, and hence the arms of England, no doubt, are more correctly blazoned, "leopards".
wikipedia
I’m quickly coming round to Alan Sugar’s way of thinking – we need a public inquiry and if politicians openly lied or misled voters prior to the referendum vote in June 2016 then they should face trial.
I have been there before the ref, when the ONS says a politician is lying and then the politician carries on lying? There needs to be a real way of holding elected officials to account. I have no objection to someone claiming what they believe to be so in good faith. But if it turns out to be a lie, string 'em up.
There is a lot of English Nationalism at play, you just have to read other blogs/forums.
Lots of Taffs, Paddys,Jocks content and its unpleasent at best downright racist at its worst.
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"I have been there before the ref, when the ONS says a politician is lying and then the politician carries on lying? There needs to be a real way of holding elected officials to account. I have no objection to someone claiming what they believe to be so in good faith. But if it turns out to be a lie, string ’em up."
I always say it the same, if you sold a toaster with these promises you'd have to give a refund. If you sell a country with these promises it's all fine.
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I had the misfortune to hear a few minutes of the Five Live phone-in this morning. It reminded me how dangerous it is to assume that people have any sense at all. There were perfectly presentable-sounding pensioners (who else has the time to spare calling in to one of these things?) trotting out all sorts of rubbish about how Barnier and Juncker were being 'beastly' to us and we'd be better off with out them etc. The lack of self-awareness and bullet-proof arrogance is just astounding, and a stark reminder of how we got into this dreadful mess in the first place.
Looking on the bright side, the pensioners won't get such an easy ride on mid-morning phone-ins in the next decade. For one thing, a lot of them will have shuffled off of this mortal coil, but more importantly there will be a lot more angry younger folk with spare time on their hands during the week too......
Looking on the bright side, the pensioners won’t get such an easy ride on mid-morning phone-ins in the next decade. For one thing, a lot of them will have shuffled off of this mortal coil,
There is always a ready supply of younger people getting older.
There needs to be a real way of holding elected officials to account. I have no objection to someone claiming what they believe to be so in good faith. But if it turns out to be a lie, string ’em up.
Great news;
Er.. maybe not;
The Daily Express only has twelve headlines which they cycle through. We must be due an update on Madeleine McCann any day now.
Or Diana
i dont understand the express are they really that pro brexit every headline cast it in a positive light
Now this could get interesting...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46056337
The National Crime Agency is investigating Arron Banks and his Leave.EU campaign for alleged offences committed at the 2016 EU referendum.
Mr Banks and another senior campaign figure, Liz Bilney, were referred to the agency by the Electoral Commission.
The watchdog said it suspected money given to the campaign came "from impermissible sources".
Mr Banks has consistently denied any wrongdoing in connection to the referendum campaign.
This is hilarious.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46043668
She told MPs the Home Office could not be blamed because Apple "won't release the upgrade we need in order for it to function".
Sounds more like they assumed that a 3rd party would bend over backwards to make their life easier, and now it's 'not fair'. Brexit in a nutshell.
She obviously assumed that Apple stuff would 'just work'. 🙂
Let's hope that the tech upgrades needed for the fabled Irish Border Solution are not similarly unavailable.
i dont understand the express are they really that pro brexit every headline cast it in a positive light
Their target audience is xenophobic over-50s. Brexit is a golden goose for them.
Their lead stories are variously: dirty foreigners / immigration; royal family (with a special boner for Diana and Kate Middleton); pensions; housing market; Maddy McCann; things that variously cause or cure cancer / Alzheimer's / dementia / arthritis / diabetes / blood pressure or generally how to live longer; the weather; benefits and scroungers; crime / terrorism threats on the up; how we're all being ripped off or otherwise hard done to.
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having spoken to a few Brexiteers, you do have to wonder how patriotic they are. I get the feeling that a lot is English nationalism, to hell with the UK. If Scotland, NI leave so what.
That might well be true, but how do you explain the ~40% in Scotland and NI who voted leave? It's talked about as if those areas were 100% remain.
Yeh they need to sell papers to make money.
It's not about spreading news to inform, it's about printing papers and making profit, it's that simple.
It's got to the point where they will literally write anything to keep people buying them so the stories get more and more rediculous..
That EU citizen app is .. Ludicrous.
Another expensive and poorly thought out waste of public money..
How can the UK gov can carry on with brexit ?
They have to wait for investigation results . there is zero legitimacy on the referendum till it is proved one way or the other .
How can they not see that ?
How can the UK gov can carry on with brexit ?
They don't care, the point is for the right people to make money.
You forgot the “WORST WINTER IN 500 YEARS, SNOWMAGEDDON DEATH STORM” headlines Cougar
(actually you did mention weather, sorry, missed it before posting)
The best thing about that link that is the Bloody Benefits* (excludes pensioners) filter
How does electoral fraud not fit the brexiteers 'afront to democracy and social unrest would follow' response that another referendum?
How does electoral fraud not fit the brexiteers ‘afront to democracy and social unrest would follow’ response that another referendum?
Because it was perpetrated by wealthy white men.
Huzzah! Fluffy mega-comfortable slippers arrived just in time as it's getting damn chilly around these parts in the mountains - the tops are now deep in snow and I live in a house with tiled floors...
Good job I'm living in Europe though, if I was in the United Kingdom Of Ruritania post-Brexit, I'd probably be arrested by the Farageian Loyalty Police.
They're made in Poland. 😳
How does electoral fraud not fit the brexiteers ‘afront to democracy and social unrest would follow’ response that another referendum?
Because they won through it... there is no argument of reason. They do not believe they would ever win again so fear any more “democracy”.
The sad irony is that we will be a rule taker if EU standards for our products and the rest of the world will get to set our tariffs and internal subsidies for businesses. Plus we will probably have more of the wrong kind of immigration and costs will increase for everything...
Have any of the Belize diplomatic service, with opaque sources of funding, who facilitated the undermining of our democracy, gone to jail yet? Or does that have to wait 'till we have a different government?
(Banks, Wigmore, Ashcroft, etc etc…)
It’s good that Banks is getting some heat, let’s hope that an investigation is allowed to run its course properly with no Tory intervention. There is still a question to answer for Mrs May as to whether she spiked the initial investigation when Home Secretary.......
It’s as true now as it has ever been - “Follow the money.....”
Even the mail don't seem to approve.
Now Paul Dacre has been replaced, didn’t I read that the new chap would be taking a softer editorial line?
Presumably this is evidence of that...
Arron Banks has a smug chubby face you could never ever tire of slapping with a wet fish.
He’s as dodgy as ****! If you could build an e-fit of the type of bloke who’s spent his life funnelling funny money through dubious offshore bank accounts, you end up with a picture of Arron Banks
I’d probably be arrested by the Farageian Loyalty Police
Nah you would be safe. Remember the glorious brexit elite wont let that loyalty police happen. Otherwise they will be in trouble themselves. Although admittedly for many of them living overseas it wont be a problem.
didn’t I read that the new chap would be taking a softer editorial line?
The new one is a remainer as are the owners, just in the past Dacre did what he wanted anyway (according to private eye anyway)
Well in the last 10 days I've started to hear a lot more precautions about the end of March being taken, exports/imports being hurried up, orders being brought forward etc. Uncertainty is messing a lot of things up at the moment. Brexit is sitting very high on the risk registers of a lot of people - even down to not knowing if a company will be able to have people working on the mainland or here come April.
Don't worry the Tories are bringing back hanging....
You cant make this stuff up.
I have arrived at the conclusion that i simply dont belong here anymore (probably never did)