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If Singapore can get an FTA why are we finding it so hard?
If Singapore can get an FTA why are we finding it so hard?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union%E2%80%93Singapore_Free_Trade_Agreement
It was negotiated eight years ago and it's taken until now. Got a TARDIS handy?
Plus, y'know, they probably didn't have nearly 200 other countries that they'd potentially need to start negotiations with all at once.
And we can get a free trade agrement - that is clear. Problem is it doesn't solve the NI issue
Dyson is the the perfect example of an avid Brexiteer.
1. Will not invest in people only assets
2. As above does not like semi skilled workers who he has to pay a living wage and “employ”
3. Self serving git
4. I have none of his products on principal
5. He moved £1.5 billion to Malta in 2012 and pays **** all tax.
I don't agree with his position on Brexit (its a truly terrible idea) but he is putting forward some kind of reasoned argument. Absolutely not like your average brexiteer. You need to check your facts too. He strongly supports investing in people, employs a lot of very skilled workers and even pays a decent chunk of tax.
I'm old. Really old. At some point I'd love to stop hearing the phrase NI problem.
of course it won't be long in real terms before I do...
As an aside, I was in a wetherspoons in Manchester the other day and there was a poster in the gents telling Theresa May off for being against free trade. I thought it was pretty interesting, not so much that wetherspoons is still putting up political broadcasts, more that they assumed that if Theresa May does pop in for a large breakfast and a pint of stella, she'll go to the gents afterwards.
On the plus side, the EDL march on the same day attracted less people than the 20th anniversary reunion of the Dust Junkys, despite being free, so I guess Manchester is doing OK
He strongly supports investing in people, employs a lot of very skilled workers and even pays a decent chunk of tax.
Yep my dealings with his business are positive.
But I'm really feeling reassured by the latest strong government lead here
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45955500
<p class="story-body__introduction">Ferry and freight firms will be urged to plan alternative routes for drugs and other vital supplies if a no-deal Brexit blocks cross-Channel traffic.</p>
The suppliers will be told to use Belgian and Dutch ports if blockages at Calais threaten to delay shipments.The plan emerged after a Cabinet meeting in which ministers were told of contingencies for a no-deal Brexit.
Earlier, MPs were warned that a no-deal could have "catastrophic" consequences for the supply of drugs into the UK.
A senior government source denied there were plans to buy or charter vessels to keep the NHS working.
Instead, private carriers would be expected to carry out their normal roles, the BBC has been told.
But there are worries among ministers and officials that the sudden introduction of border checks at Calais could cause sudden and serious backlogs.
Even if you worked for a good old 80's council job for life you would have been shoved on for that level of crap
All looking really good https://www.ft.com/content/f853b544-d6cb-11e8-a854-33d6f82e62f8?list=intlhomepage
I like the flotilla idea. It'll be just like Dunkirk. Quitlings will love it.
It’s good to know that Nigel Farage’s counter demo mustered 1,400 supporters, I sincerely hope that they had a chance to rub shoulders with us and to talk to one another.#
I think that most right minded people regard demos/marches as something the nutters do .. so won’t associate themselves with such things.
3/4 of a million in London are all nutters?
The smashing Mr Dyson
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/make-easier-hire-fire-people-11509200
Owns huge areas of agricultural land and received £1.6m in subsidues last year. This is for the avoidance of inheritance tax.
Tax wise anyone heard of the companies Clear Cover and Dark Cover?
Posting here instead of the other thread, but I’m sure someone will bring up Brexit over there soon enough.
I honestly think this
IIRC I saw some stats that showed most people have very little.
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/do-most-folks-have-a-fairly-substantial-amount-of-savings/
Is the thing that worries me the most about Brexit. Are the majority of people really in a financial position to weather any Brexit turmoil, even if it’s relatively mild there’s a lot of people “just about managing” out there.
I personally know people that voted to leave but have nothing in reserve.
I personally know people that voted to leave but have nothing in reserve.
And the chances are they have very little in reserve because of domestic policies over the last 40 years (housing policy has especially limited peoples ability to have anything spare to save IMO), but the media message has been blame Brussels, and our politicians have pandered to this message. So it isn't a surprise they voted leave really.
Now would have been the perfect time to disclose some hard truths, and educate the voting population. Instead they have continued pandering to the lie, even puffed it up with delusions of empire and self importance, and we now have an even more extreme brexit than was imaginable 2 years ago.
The suppliers will be told to use Belgian and Dutch ports if blockages at Calais threaten to delay shipments.
I take it these Dutch and Belgian ports have managed to prepare in advance, so they have all the physical and processing infrastructure in place to cope with a sudden influx of hundreds of British lorries suddenly turning up on their doorstep, all looking for suitable ferries to drive on to?
Are the majority of people really in a financial position to weather any Brexit turmoil, even if it’s relatively mild there’s a lot of people “just about managing” out there.
The level of personal debt is likely to bring the whole thing crashing down even before Brexit is taken into consideration. Even a minor economic shock is likely to trigger something quite spectacular.
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I take it these Dutch and Belgian ports have managed to prepare in advance
The Netherlands has hired 1000 extra customs officials in preparation for the disruption we look like inflicting on them. I haven't looked into infrastructure but Ireland, Holland and Denmark all look like they've taken the impacts of this shitshow more seriously than the instigators of it.
I'm about to email my mp. Can anyone tell me which was more legally binding ., the chequers deal which was signed by our government or the referendum?
They are both equally legally binding. ie not at all.
One because it is a proposal, not a deal, and the other because it was an advisory referendum.
The only thing which is legally binding at present is no deal, thanks to our enthusiastic invoking of A50.
The company I work for hosted a UKIP representative to give a talk before the referendum, I think on the basis that leaving would shaft our European competitors, gonna be interesting to see how it pans out for us ..
Can you elaborate on why?
https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2018/10/gov-makes-plans-charter-ships-wake-no-deal-brexit/
Wooooooooo, it's time for the Atlantic Convoy again!
I love the fact that the cabinet received this news with "disbelief".
It's going to be like the Berlin blockade. The Yanks will have to fly over and drop supplies of chlorinated chicken.
Mind you, I saw Jacob Rees Mogg on the telly earlier suggesting that there wouldn't be a problem because our borders would be open to all incoming freight.
I've been away for a while. Is it worth taking the time to catch up with this thread?
Mind you, I saw Jacob Rees Mogg on the telly earlier suggesting that there wouldn’t be a problem because our borders would be open to all incoming freight.
I'm sure that will go down well with the WTO he likes to harp on about.
So we won't be tariffing anything coming in from the EU, but they will be tariffing our goods? That's going to do the economy a world of good.
Could someone give me a brief run down of deadlines, wasnt something bad supposed to happen last thursday without an agreement. How long before the hard core brexitiers have to shit or get off the pot?
What time is The Lesser She-Elephant going in to face the knives?
Cabinet has broken for, uh, half term or something hasn't it? So no more talks.
1922 Committee meeting tomorrow. That should be interesting. Reckon May will be deposed by the end of the week.
1922 Committee meeting tomorrow
Thought the dancing queen was going to that one tonight? Reuters reports that (the Sunday Times claims) they've already got 46 letters so only need 2 more to trigger a couple of weeks of political paralysis, ideal when we've got so much time to play with.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they leave her there because there’s no alternative
Reuters reports that (the Sunday Times claims) they’ve already got 46 letters so only need 2 more to trigger a couple of weeks of political paralysis, ideal when we’ve got so much time to play with.
Aye another rag reports she has some shill letters from loyal mp's (****ing loyal used in the same sentence as MP pmsl) in there also that will be retracted in case it gets a wee bit too close to the magic number
just get someone to stand at the next snap election...in fact vote me in to power at the next snap election, ill end Brexit in half an hour Monday morning even if I do piss off half the ****ing country
Oh and bear in mind that when the Nasties trumpet private capital taking on gaps left by austerity, this lot is what they mean. Read any one of these stories and you get the picture.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/series/rogue-landlords
Funny isn’t it? How there is not a single rogue landlord on the so-called ‘register’ of rogue landlords. And how even the admission that the list was empty was initially refused when requested by a FoI request. This is what the likes of Liam Fox are wetting their pants over. Rich mates of theirs getting lined up to fleece the less well-off.
The fines and prosecutions are derisory and can be written off as ‘business expenses’ incurred in ‘the course of doing business’ for some of these buggers with their £30m property portfolios keeping tenants in squalor. This is the very essence of Toryism.
So if there IS a leadership contest - what will happen? Will anyone run with a promise to revoke A50 or go full Norway?
So if there IS a leadership contest – what will happen? Will anyone run with a promise to revoke A50 or go full Norway?
Errr...this is a Tory leadership contest we're talking about. They're more likely to go full ******, to paraphrase Tropic Thunder.
Will anyone run with a promise to revoke A50 or go full Norway
Norway has a hard border... not an option under good Friday. Was a good starting framework 2 years ago....
Just seen on Sky news (can’t do kinky) there’s gonna be no change, qu’elle surprise
There’s increasing pressure on the PM to respond to the realisation that either Hard Brexit or Chequers will leave the Conservatives’ core middle class supporters worse off financially. Remember what happened to the party’s grassroots support when the pound dropped out of the ERM?
Its a good job that Labour has a clever technocrat at the helm, otherwise we’d be totally screwed.
Don't forget these are the 'easiest negotiations in history'. It probably means they could wrap them up by the middle of next week if they could be arsed.
No Tory is going to take on the "job" its all theatre.
The Brexiteers arguments are looking very shoddy - the formerly disgraced former nonentity Liam Fox hopefully looks like the corrupt clown that he is. Davis can’t work a five day week (or seemingly stay sober for committee meetings), JRM recycles soundbites and patently isn’t up to the intellectual challenge of being leader. Even the DM has turned on Johnson, Gove, IDS and Grayling.
If only my parents had taken up their option of an overseas passport, I’d be watching with amusement. Instead, I’m digesting emails from my MP who took time out from his laptop ****ing sessions to tell me that he’s doing all that he can to ensure that my stepson has insulin in April, but he can’t make promises.
Maybe I should make use of my dual nationality.
India is looking positive compared to UK...
Sodding Siberia is looking preferable to the UK......
No Tory is going to take on the “job” its all theatre.
Precisely . As much as I hate to use phrases like 'poisoned chalice' I don't think even the most rabid of the Conservatives are stupid enough to to intervine before anything has happened ... They look after themselves.
May will bear the cross of brexit unless she resigns. Then one of her potato shaped colleagues will step in after the dirty work is done.
Johnson, Gove, IDS and Grayling
You couldn't construct even one half-decent human out the constituent parts of that lot.
You couldn’t construct even one half-decent human out the constituent parts of that lot.
Although it would be good fun trying - mixing up all the body parts and coming out with some even more freakish people that you started with.