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From the "You couldn't make this stuff up" category:
Daniel Hannan, earlier this year:
And now:
Daniel Hannan Backs Second EU Referendum If MPs Vote For Customs Union
Oh, and a deliciously ironic quote: “I had assumed that, by now, we’d have reached a broad national consensus around a moderate form of withdrawal that recognised the narrowness of the result,” he said.
Remind me, what happens when you assume?
Pretty brazen arse covering from Hannan there , much like Cummings.
The desperate scrabble of those responsible to blame everyone but themselves for the shitshow. Just shows how arrogant they are that they don't have a shred of humility
especially ironic as Hannon (IIRC) it a far right ultra leaver
especially ironic as Hannon (IIRC) it a far right ultra leaver
I don't know. I think his position seems to vary with the weather.
Would you prefer definitely staying in the single market or risking a second referendum ?
We could end up with Remainers voting for brexit and leavers voting for a chance to stay in the eu.
Have we done the latest?
In the Sun today:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6423932/david-davis-northern-ireland-brexit-plans-dup/
The "Customs Partnership" is now apparently dead.
And "MaxFac" has had the fancy non-existent Unicorn-based "technology" abandoned.
Leaving...David Davis proposing a 10 mile buffer zone with joint EU/UK rules. Or some such.
You can say whatever you like, but eventually your lies and half-truths run up against reality.
customs partnership and max fac were never alive. Both options are not acceptable to the EU and that was made perfectly clear
And as we plummet further through the la-la-land Brexit looking glass....
Brexiter Nigel Lawson applies for French residency
You couldn't make it up!
Have they done anything towards keeping "our" rights to live and work all over Europe yet? Or is it just the rights of money and goods (and the rich) to move that matters? Not that they really have a clue yet what to do there either… clearly…
Small piece of good news… looks like the new and improved Erasmus scheme will be open to our kids in future still. Genuine good news. Of course, might not get bar work etc to help pay for time spent at a Uni abroad… (but once again, the kids of the rich will be just fine).
Uh oh… I can feel a rant about Corbyn coming up…
some progress but not much. Most EU countries will accept UK citizens on a very minor bureaucratic proceedure if the live there on brexit day, no onward travel rights tho
An interesting courtcase going on at the moment at the ECJ where a bunch of brit ex pats living in the netherlands are asking the court to rule if their rights as EU citizens can be removed or not. A decent chance of winning which would mean UK citizens would still have all EU rights if they hold a EU passport including fredom of movement and right of appeal to the ECJ no matter what the UK government legislates
I'm waiting for all the brexies to announce that Italy's dodgy government heralds the imminent collapse of the EU....?
I thought Soros had some good tjouthou on what the EU could do to address the immigration problems that are causing trouble in italy & elsewhere.
Lawson is a hypocrite, but is too rich to care
Is that court case saying that an eu passport would be required or would it apply to everyone born before brexit day?
As effectively we have had our citizenship removed dezpite the passport.
Would this be likely to lead to the associate membership that has been mentioned before
graham - hard to say as we don't know what the ruling will be. could well be tho
this is the court case. They won the right to get an ecj ruling
I’m waiting for all the brexies to announce that Italy’s dodgy government heralds the imminent collapse of the EU….?
https://twitter.com/europeelects/status/1002135592061333504?s=21
Wouldn't Davis's latest cloud cuckooland Border proposal be about as palatable to the DUP as abortion and gay marriage.
Remind me again who May is totally reliant on to prop up here shambles of a government?
Hmmmmmmm....
Or is it just the rights of money and goods (and the rich) to move that matters?
Are you new around here ?
Correct Binners - also unnacceptable to the EU
Suggestions that BoJo might be wibbling (again I suppose)
Wrong thrrad
The people of Wales voted for Brexit, hoping to open up new markets beyond Europe. How are Port Talbots steel sales to America going now?
Like they were thinking about it that deeply...
How are Port Talbots steel sales to America going now?
On the plus side at least they will be able to get additional EU deprived area funding. Oh wait.....
Brexit looks like it is going well, no food, no fuel, but we will have blue passports, just no way of. using them hey ho.
So the DUP have seemingly reiterated..
The leader of the DUP has warned that her party will withdraw its support for Theresa May’s government if it adopts a Brexit deal that sees Northern Ireland treated differently from the rest of the UK.
Arlene Foster said ensuring Northern Ireland maintains the same rules and regulations as Britain was a “red line” which if crossed would lose the Conservatives the critical backing of her 10 MPs.
It comes as cabinet ministers are still struggling to find a solution to fulfil two of Ms May’s key Brexit pledges – keeping the Irish border open and leaving the EU’s customs union.
So what, we have 3 options.
1. Withdraw the A 50 notification.
2. The government will collapse resulting in a GE that Labour are almost guaranteed to win, but they'll have the same poisonous chalice to drink from, that would prove interesting.
3. The government will secure a deference or extension of some sort, in other words, kicking the can back up the road again.
My monies on 3.
Why would the EU kick the can further down the road? At some point they are going to want clarity and a decision. Why keep on fudging?
Most likely option I think is an EFTA type deal. acheives nothing of course. either that or a government collapse
there is no chance IMO of the EU allowing decisions to be kicked down the road apart from if there is a collapse of the government.
Most likely option I think is an EFTA type deal.
Which doesn't meet the December agreement on NI. Has to be such that NI remains in the SM and CU.
Ironically, the DUP deal was needed to by May to achieve Brexit, but their red lines are blocking the whole process.
Surely a GE is now inévitable ?
indeed mrmo
hard border willend up in the irish sea May will have to shaft the DUP to get any deal
the two options being argued about in cabinet at the moment are both unnacceptable to the EU
I suspect she will shaft the DUP relying on labour votes to get it thru.
The “most significant publication on the EU since the referendum” (according to that wisest & most learned of political sages David Davis)
has been delayed until em, sometime in the future
no wonder business has turned against the government
An interesting manifestation might actually be the downfall of the DUP, they want the same rules as the UK, as long as it's not about abortion or gay marriage.
That could be May's justification for stitching the DUP up, but the Conservatives would then lose thier majority forcing a GE.
It's a right cluster ****. Always has been.
It's almost like none of this has ever been thought through in a considered manner. It's just been one reactionary knee jerk after the other.
interesting post from peston
(assuming Labour do oppose the majority of it) has she realised staying in the CU is the only sane option?
And if those votes go against her will that mean another general election? I also note that the votes are scheduled to take place the same day as Trump meets with Kim. Great day to bury bad news etc.
Apologies if this was already posted or discussed, but I've only just got around to reading it (published 17 May 2018).
It's the House of Commons Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Committee report on the Impact of Brexit on the Pharma Industry.
It plainly spells out the negatives for patients of reverting to WTO for trading medicines and that anything other than a frictionless relationship with the EU will be damaging for the UK Pharma industry:
Skip to p.38 if you want the summary.
Salad dodger - it takes a loss in a confidence vote to trigger a new election
It is possible however that if she loses these votes that Labour put up a confidence motion
Its difficult to reach any other conclusion than May has just had enough of all this nonsense and is now looking for the exit. And who can blame her. About 12 months too late, but hey ho
If she loses the customs union vote - which she will - then she's finished. The right wing Brexit fruit-loops will go into meltdown!! And then the two paramilitary wings of the Tory party can dispense with the formalities and go into all out war with each other.
It'd actually be quite amusing to watch if the potential economic repercussions weren't so damaging
I suspect if the government falls before the leave date which is certainly possible that the EU would look kindly on a postponement for some sensible(ish) people to actually do the negotiation.
What a shame we don't seem to have any.
Is 'EU negotiator' one of the job categories we'll be letting in once we have control of our borders?
Its difficult to reach any other conclusion than May has just had enough of all this nonsense and is now looking for the exit
She's not looking for an exit, this is just the next obstacle she has to get past, and she's doing it in the same way as usual: blundering around, with this sense that if you just try hard enough it will all come out ok (it won't). It's the "Brexit means Brexit" way.
I suspect if the government falls before the leave date which is certainly possible that the EU would look kindly on a postponement for some sensible(ish) people to actually do the negotiation.
In the same way that a crocodile looks kindly on an antelope that has become trapped in the mud.