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Will this be another one of those red lines that the Brexees always threatened to walk out over, but won’t?

Regardless, it will be the fault of the Leavers for not "getting behind" Brexit. As always.

[I blame Brexit for the Forum woes as well].


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 12:09 am
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<p>>Sod the power generation bit. nuclear medicine will be completely screwed.</p><p></p><p>Both as important as each other IMO</p>


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 12:27 am
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Wind produced more power than nuclear in the UK the other day...


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 1:10 am
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And the point is? Could you remove nuclear from the balance, what's going to fill the gap when the next fee power stations get turned off, energy security is not defined by 1 day


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 8:14 am
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They are not power cuts they are green intervals.


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 8:29 am
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A pretty accurate somethingion of this whole sorry farce from Gina Miller in todays Guardian...

Extend the Brexit transition? It’s just another non-starter


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 9:32 am
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Strangely fifo, mike, zippy, I’m just off to talk to people today about keeping lower voltage networks running when the higher voltage ones are dead.  So perhaps not in my lifetime, but probably in my sons’ we will start to regard energy as something you harvest, not something you produce, and if there’s no generation today, well never mind, there’ll be some tomorrow and it won’t affect you in the meantime.


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 10:06 am
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Yep, let's see if we can keep the lights on for the meetings while you sort it out 😉 next up I propose using the excess heat generated by mail and express readers by feeding them more fake news while they are connected to some sort of microgeneration system


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 10:09 am
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I think this is the first time that Corbyn has actually made Brexit the subject of his questions at PMQ’s

As pointed out, that is not true but asking questions at PMQs is pointless anyway.  Not sure what the goal is as the answers are pre-prepared and largely have nothing to do with the question.  Most answers just say how much better the tories are than labour which is not answering the question and to be fair to Corbyn he didn't support a lot of what Labour did under Blair anyway.

Brexit is a struggle for May to answer as Labour didn't do a Brexit so she can't say how much worse it was when Labour did it.


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 10:48 am
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Have we started building the world's biggest lorry park in Dover yet? Or are they just going to dot portaloos along the M20.

Nice to see the Torries stuffing the Lords with Brexities.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/18/pm-set-to-nominate-10-tory-peers-in-attempt-to-overcome-brexit-defeats


 
Posted : 18/05/2018 11:22 am
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ooh - the moggster is getting a bit concerned. Please let May call his bluff...

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-rees-mogg-admits-doubts-over-theresa-may-in-warning-shot-for-pm-11382158


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 10:18 pm
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how biased is that as "news"


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 10:21 pm
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Agreed! Not even news in fairness - I just like to see Mogg whining.


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 10:24 pm
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It's easy for Mogg calling from the wings, to say the government needs to show more backbone in negotiations.

It's not a question of being a hard negotiator when everyone knows there's no leverage in the negotiation.

There are literally no cards to be played. It would almost be funny if he did get into the hot seat, the second unelected PM in a row, and watch him crumple like a cheap packet of crisps.

I suspect he wouldn't be stupid enough to go for leadership, though, he's probably got some sense of self preservation and is quite comfortable and happy heckling from the side lines, a bit like corbyn.

It's easy to shout about anything when you're not really accountable.


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 10:29 pm
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That's coz they know the temporary backstop won't fly, ultimately they are bricking it coz after 2 years, the brexies still don't have a plan, just gotta keep fooling the leave voters a bit longer.....


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 10:38 pm
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Surprised no one mentioned M Carney and the brexit cost to each UK household .


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 10:41 pm
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Only £900 - clearly either a price worth paying or fake news...


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 10:43 pm
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I just like to see Mogg whining.

Give me 15 mins alone in a room with the utter cockbag and I’ll have him crying out for his nanny/wet nurse


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 10:55 pm
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If it's not hurting it's not working.

Oh, sorry, wrong bonkers Tory policy.


 
Posted : 22/05/2018 11:31 pm
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Only £900 – clearly either a price worth paying or fake news…

and we haven't even left yet ho hum


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 12:04 am
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Looks like we are 28th in line for a trade deal with Australia and New Zealand.....

Think the Fox was caught napping.. .


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 12:59 am
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To be clear.... when they say we’ve all lost 900 quid, is that all of us?

Does it include the boomer pensioners who overwhelmingly voted for it, and are the only demographic in the U.K. to actually see their real incomes rise in the last ten years?


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 9:18 am
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Don't you worry Binners the private sector care system will strip them of their wealth.....


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 10:45 am
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<p class="story-body__introduction">The post-Brexit customs system favoured by Boris Johnson and other leading Brexiteers could cost businesses up to £20bn, officials have suggested.</p>
The chief executive of HM Revenue and Customs told MPs firms would have to pay £32.50 for each customs declaration under the so-called "max fac" solution.

John Thompson said any new system could take up to five years to fully work.

A "functioning border" was possible by the end of the transition period but he said it would not be "fully optimal".

Kerrrching!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44229606

The key to Post Brexit Revenue generation - Capita and the likes will be rubbing their hands


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 5:27 pm
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So… quite apart from the annual cost of that fantasy scheme… what exactly can be ready for next year? Ready for a "better than a bad deal" no deal exit?


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 6:11 pm
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Eeerie silence from the brexies.....


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 6:21 pm
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Danish lady married to a British man for 39 year (a Councillor & one time mayor of Ipswich to boot) denied citizenship.... Brexit really is making us look like muppets!


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 6:45 pm
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She was a LibDem councillor though… perhaps the purge of the unbelievers has begun?


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 6:52 pm
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It's about time those greedy exporters were hit hard with a tax.

Those ****er bringing foreign FOREIGN dirty ****ing money into this country.

Ban all exports I say.

We explicitly voted for it.


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 6:56 pm
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train wreck has already happened mate


 
Posted : 23/05/2018 11:43 pm
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Danish lady married to a British man for 39 year (a Councillor & one time mayor of Ipswich to boot) denied citizenship…. Brexit really is making us look like muppets!

Not just muppets - note the reason for her rejection:
"She said her rejection was on the basis of her not having a permanent residency card, which has been obligatory since November 2016"
and compare with the gov website: ( https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-a-uk-residence-card )
"You don’t need to apply for a document to prove you can live in the UK unless you’re both:
.)from outside the European Economic Area (EEA) or Switzerland<span class="text_exposed_show">
.)an extended family member of someone from the EEA or Switzerland"</span>
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This high profile case will no doubt be sorted. But what about others who were not city mayors, and don't get their face in the papers?

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Posted : 24/05/2018 7:39 am
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I know Klunk already noted this, but that trainwreck letter from Dominic Cummings is well worth a read:

You can dance around the fundamental issues all you want but in the end ‘reality cannot be fooled’.

https://dominiccummings.com/


 
Posted : 24/05/2018 10:54 am
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Aaaah ... Dominic Cummings. A face you would never tire of punching

Summed up nicely by Nick Cohen in Sundays Observer

Nick Cummings - the true cowardly face of the Brexiters


 
Posted : 24/05/2018 11:46 am
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At least Godfrey Bloom is being honest, the point is to get the foreigners out.


 
Posted : 24/05/2018 11:53 am
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Brexit exposing brexiters (& the nation's) hypocrisy again & again

https://twitter.com/PhilipCJames/status/999562557793988608?s=19

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/999548841564213248?s=19


 
Posted : 24/05/2018 11:55 am
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Godfrey Bloom the man that made UKIP squirm...


 
Posted : 24/05/2018 6:38 pm
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Sooo customs union until 2023 and probably free movement, no trade deals, change of government another generation of old farts gone.

All change...


 
Posted : 24/05/2018 7:10 pm
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Good

if that is the case.


 
Posted : 25/05/2018 1:55 am
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Sooo customs union until 2023 and probably free movement, no trade deals, change of government another generation of old farts gone.

Not really, if Brexit isn't stopped by next March the UK is out of the EU. It may be in a permanent limbo, but which company will invest without certainty.


 
Posted : 25/05/2018 7:50 am
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Unless May proposes something acceptable to the EU for NI or accepts that the backstop deal she made is binding there will be no deal, no transition and we crash out in under a year with nothing in place


 
Posted : 25/05/2018 11:39 pm
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The whole shambles is beyond a joke now.

Crazy thing is plenty of people still think brexit's a good idea

Still some laughs to be had at our misfortune

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/25/brexit-boris-johnson-dominic-cummings


 
Posted : 25/05/2018 11:49 pm
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Its interesting watching the slow decline of "sensible" Brexiteers, the gradual withdrawal and what we have left is the Reese Mogg, Redwoods and half hearted Boris and Gove even Liam Fox has virtually disappeared.

May and Davis are desperate to keep the Party together as they know if they let Boris and Mogg in it is the end for them.

They know they can't deliver it, I wonder if they would prefer to loose a general election? And let the opposition cope with it then shout at them?

We are in a period of desperate politics.


 
Posted : 26/05/2018 12:20 am
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We'll build our own satellite system! With hookers, and blackjack!


 
Posted : 26/05/2018 12:39 am
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I think we are going off a cliff face with Brexit - nobody could be as inept as this Gov without it being deliberate!


 
Posted : 26/05/2018 10:05 am
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I disagree.  Its a toxic mix of wishful thinking, incompetence and dogma


 
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