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govt wishes to ban energy drinks.
i can agree with their argument about sugary drinks, but surely they're trying to put kids at an academic disadvantage by denying them access to caffeine?
The industrial work patterns that schools prepare kids for have no real equivalent in our natural human state.
In lieu of other performance enhancing drugs, this renders caffeine necessary to make it to the end of the day.
surely a key part of the curriculum should include 'making a proper cup of tea/ coffee'?
THAT would prepare the yoof for the real world.
I agree, ban them they are not beneficial.
I never had coffee or redbull when I did my exams or school work.
I did eat a lot of 54321 bars though...
Caffeine shouldn’t be necessary for kids, however banning the drink doesn’t solve the real issue which is kids going to bed too late and eating all types of crap and drink that stops them sleeping properly and keeps them up the night before
Good they're worse than glitter.
If it means less piles of Red Bull cans at jump areas, then bring on the ban.
but surely they’re trying to put kids at an academic disadvantage by denying them access to caffeine?
The industrial work patterns that schools prepare kids for have no real equivalent in our natural human state.
I'm sorry but what?
Happy to ban the sales to under 18s as a minimum,certainly they have no place in schools
Good they’re worse than glitter.
I (would have) LOLed (if only I had the energy)
At school Red Bull was not a thing, but it did come into play at uni a few years later. That was not a good thing.
Kids should avoid those kinds of drinks and focus on good quality coffee. It will stand them in better stead for later in life
About bloody time they banned them for kids.
A can of monster can send me a bit loopy, god knows what it does to an eight year old.
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Ha, I agree with you. My kids do ju-jitsu (I can't be bothered working out which spelling is correct at the moment.). A lot of the under 16s use energy drinks before competition, with parental approval. There are a lot of hyperactive kids at JJ comps!
In lieu of other performance enhancing drugs, this renders caffeine necessary to make it to the end of the day.
Caffiene doesn't function in the way you think it does
The industrial work patterns that schools prepare kids for have no real equivalent in our natural human state.
Whaaaaat?
If it means fewer cans of red Bull and Monster littering the roadside, bring it on.
My little boy made himself some cycling "beer" last week ,he sneaked into the secret stash and got to the SIS cola flavour tabs with caffiene.
Holy cow. Hyperactive ,whirling Dervish doesn't do it justice.
I had to lock him in the shed with the glitter, just to calm him down . 🙂
A full ban feels a bit thin end of a wedgy. Though banning them for under 18s probably is no bad thing.
My only concern is that kids are under so much pressure to do well in their A-Levels now, would they be pushed towards the likes of Adderall if they can't get a can of Red Bull when needed?
Banning Children would have a better effect.
A full ban feels a bit thin end of a wedgy
It's not a full ban.
Why do people think it's impossible to study without stimulants?
would they be pushed towards the likes of Adderall if they can’t get a can of Red Bull *when needed*?
Which is never.
Apparently these "energy" drinks have a similar amount of caffeine as a cup of coffee, and the same amount of sugar as any other sugary kids drink e.g. Coca Cola. It's the Red Bull Xtreme sports marketing and the sugar that is the problem. Luckily as the kids get fatter and fatter they will be no less suited to the trend to downhill sports, and the baggy clothing will do them more favours than lycra. Bring back ginger beer, I say.
Do people really see red bull cans littering the roadside? or am I reading the daily mail letters section.
Do people really see red bull cans littering the roadside?
Yes.
surely they’re trying to put kids at an academic disadvantage by denying them access to caffeine?
No, they aren't. Doesn't work like that.
No, they aren’t. Doesn’t work like that.
I'm guessing it depends on the kids present addictions?
I'd imagine that short term this would have a negative effect on some kids....
Do people really see red bull cans littering the roadside? or am I reading the daily mail letters section.
Do you really NOT see them? OK maybe not always Red Bull but Monster, Relentless, that cheap 35p a can Happy Shopper or whatever knock off it is. I'd happily see energy drinks banned purely for this reason but I guess the idiots would throw Coke cans on the ground instead. Stupid lazy people are stupid and lazy with or without energy drinks.
I’d imagine that short term this would have a negative effect on some kids
About a week.
Maybe you could beat them to death with your bar of superiority mister p,or your strap on.
Would a child with Type 1 Diabetes get a medical exemption certificate to allow them to purchase Lucozade if required to treat a hypo? I know there are other ways to treat them but sugary drinks are one of the best ways (Type 1 diabetes for 42 years that uses Lucozade as 1st stop to treat hypos)
Maybe you could beat them to death with your bar of superiority mister p,or your strap on.
if it reduced littering then I happily would.
Possibly, not said child could also buy glucose tablets if needed which my boss, also Type 1, swears by.
Would a child with Type 1 Diabetes get a medical exemption certificate to allow them to purchase Lucozade if required to treat a hypo?
No! Let the bastards die from lack of Red Bull as an example to the others. Or get a parent to buy it for them if that is really better than letting the child die, whichever is easier.
I think that the hyperactivity is due to the sugar content in EVERYTHING.
the govt needs to separate the effects of caffeine from sugar.
in our natural state we don't spend eight hours a day hunting/ gathering.
before the white man arrived, the native Americans had a fairly pleasant life, making art as part of their daily tasks.
a lot of the reasoning behind schools is to adapt the body to the 8-5.
when people are old enough to work, they find that caffeine is pretty much necessary
i tried to quit caffeine at work, but I was just going through the motions.
when I tried my first 'proper', I.e not freeze-dried coffee, I noticed that on a cognitive/ enzyme level, it had a profound and positive 'galvanising' effect.
on one level, the argument against energy drinks may come from the pharmaceutical industry, aware of the health benefits of caffeine.
on another level, it may be part of a backlash against children from deprived backgrounds who have have found a way to circumvent a lack of parental time and resources.
makes me think of the oddball strategy of awarding ever higher grades to a levels. You get an a in maths, it doesn't need to be suffixed with star, star, star.
whats the point to that, other than a badge of middle crassness?
cant believe the universities selections put up with that nonsense. Someone gets the necessary a levels...they're on an upward trajectory...so why get picky?
if the kids at school are hyperactive, maybe they should walk to school or do aerobics before class begins to take the edge off?
Back to the sugar...why is it taking so long to get the sugar out our food?
wheres the log-jam?
im pretty sure it's not the sugar-beer farmers who don't have much clout and could easily diversify to growing other crops.
or is it just a few greedy sugar refinery owners who are determining our diet and agriculture?
Would a child with Type 1 Diabetes get a medical exemption certificate to allow them to purchase Lucozade if required to treat a hypo?
I think they are talking about banning highly caffeinated drinks. AFAIK, lucozade is not a highly caffeinated drink.
Good they’re worse than glitter
but I thought Glitter was locked up?
Its rather sad that someone uses a proposal to ban something which really isn't that healthy for younger people as a way of somehow suggesting that this proposal will somehow adversely affect them (young people that is) in life.
Perhaps look at the reasons why they are so tired would be more benficial. Or just accept that if you're tired you need a break.
I do occasionally have a can of red bull, usually becuase I'm hung over or I've had a very early start (05:00) and I'm flagging. I'm not going to start stamping my feet and try and blame the government for my inability to manage my life properly.
About a week.
Are you certain or guessing ?
I can't stand the things but I know people with sleep issues can take ages to sort them out.
and people with addictions can find it hard to concentrate.
I might be putting 2 + 2 = 5 .... here but I'm thinking some kid who's sleep patterns are completely messed up and is itching for the drink when studying is going to take a while to adjust ...
Happy to ban the sales to under 18s as a minimum,certainly they have no place in schools.
This +1
However did the stuff get into schools in the first place ?
One of those vending machines perhaps?? Ban them too.
But it’s too late, if you reduce those machines in schools the parents would go apeshit.
So ban parents too.
Kids should avoid those kinds of drinks and focus on good quality coffee. It will stand them in better stead for later in life
and beards, they should be working on growing a beard and wearing checked shirts, whilst drinking quality coffee...
before the white man arrived, the native Americans had a fairly pleasant life, making art as part of their daily tasks.
Wait, so Red Bull is bad because of the pre-pastoral life enjoyed by by indigenous people was somewhat OK? (apart from y'know; war, disease, and short brutal lives marked by famine, stress and precarious stability etc..?)
Does Rachel know?
I use to live with the red bull sales rep for Scotland. We had a branded fridge full of the stuff and drunk it constantly, may as well have been on tap.
Truely disgusting stuff, I can't drink a sip nowadays without it making me feel sick.
He also wasn't able to aquire me one if those red bull branded helmets all the pros wear, something I have never forgiven him for....
Do people really see red bull cans littering the roadside? or am I reading the daily mail letters section.
I do a bit of litter picking in my village, you very rapidly form some very D.M. style stereotypes. I now judge people who drink/eat/enjoy the following:
1) Red Bull, Monster, A.N.Other energy drink brands
2) McDonalds
3) Strongbow Sickly Pink Berry Cider
4) Some weird polish lager in a yellow tin
5) Lucozade Sport (which puts my in a bit of a dilemma, I drink that from time to time!)
6) All smokers.
Trying to figure out the common factor and so far have only come up with YOUNG PEOPLE. Which is why I agree with surroundedbyhills
Banning Children would have a better effect.
When I was a pupil, I noticed that the kids who came to school with a flask of coffee were the most diligent and well-behaved.
Coincidentally, this was at a time when the only fat pupils were the children of newsagents or dairy farmers. (Force-fed surplus milk?...you'd be scared to bump into them in case their slushy carapace split open and they'd disappear down the drain.)
I think that by offering our yoof a sugar-free caffeinated drink, it may help transition them into a sugar-free adulthood.
that and changing the school motto to 'run & play'
and by the time they got back from school the caffeine would have worn off, and they'd be 'tired but happy'.
When I was a pupil, I noticed that the kids who came to school with a flask of coffee were the most diligent and well-behaved.
Yeah of course. 😂
Truely disgusting stuff, I can’t drink a sip nowadays without it making me feel sick.
I can't even bear the smell....
but it did come into play at uni a few years later. That was not a good thing.
in my day we used ProPlus...
The Green Monster tastes OK to me - for one period in intense work I used it a lot, nowadays I only use it when driving to avoid getting too tired, combined with some Wine Gums 🙂
It really does feel that the government has somewhat more pressing things it should be focusing its attention on. Rather than banning plastic (just, what?), banning pet store sales (hmmm) and banning energy drinks (as above, thin end of the wedge), how about not utterly screwing up Brexit?