For me this is all just an argument about political control.
I can understand the thinking but surely locking down now mainly to take advantage of the furlough scheme would be deeply unpopular? Also, probably better politically for the SNP to wait. If we don't need to lockdown later they claim credit, if we do and Westminster denies support then that could be the final nail in the coffin of the union.
Aye, that would be politics.
Moot point anyhow, furlough extended till march.
For me this is all just an argument about political control.
Having spent 12 hours in Forth Valley Royal this week, and speaking to nurses and doctors, there's most definitely a growing issue of backlog in testing, diagnosis and treatment. As a family, we've been waiting since March for a test.
I was speaking about the specific issue of the recent furlough arguments.
ah, as you were then. 😉
I'm just going to come out and say this because I'm sure others must feel it too, but AAAAAAARGH! I would have bitten off the hand of anyone who offered me a year off at 80% pay, instead my wife got let go by some unscrupulous bastards who refused to put her on furlough even when our MSP got involved and gave them a clear path to do so, and my company can't/won't put me on furlough despite looking for volunteers as I've been saddled with the world's worst project which no-one else in the office will touch with a very long shitty barge pole, and ironically which will probably reach completion just after furlough ends and with no other projects on the horizon, so I'll probably get laid off anyway.
....and breathe. Sorry, I can only see the positives of furlough, I'm sure it can be scary/boring/depressing after a while...
we’ve been waiting since March for a test
Why? I called up at 0830 for a test, got one for 1030, had the negative result for 1530 next day.
Someone at my gym has tested postive when I've been in training. It's a small gym that does personal training sessions. Everyone has their own dedicated equipment that's santised before and after sessions. No physical contact. Everyone spaced out more than 2 metres. I've been told by the gym that I haven't come into what track and trace define as close contact but I've been in last Tuesday and last night when the person was training. Apparently I don't need to isolate.
Get a test just now or wait for any symptoms?
I'd get a test and isolate till the result myself, track and trace is a crap check box exercise, that's been proven to be useless given current numbers.
I don't think you'd get a test in that situation Bob, although if you tell them you have symptoms, then you would get one, and then you'd know? pretty sure there'll be a fair bit of that going on, folk wanting a test rather than isolating for 2 weeks....
Nobeerinthefridge
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I don’t think you’d get a test in that situation Bob, although if you tell them you have symptoms, then you would get one, and then you’d know? pretty sure there’ll be a fair bit of that going on, folk wanting a test rather than isolating for 2 weeks….
tbh, I know going for a test with no symptoms isn't the current advice. But given how the virus can spread in a room, the whole 2 metre indoor thing is mental, particular if spending time in a room. aye it might limit things mildly, but it's no guarantee, and if the game is to break chains of transmission. everyone in that room plus potentially their contacts and maybe even going to another level oif contacts should be all isolating and testing.
For me that's why there's a fundamental failure of the test and tracing here.
Pretty much allowing asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people walk around with impunity.
If that was done during the summer, I think we'd be in an entirely different position right now. (Back in march/April, they can be excused for getting caught on the hop, but from the summer when it was very low, questions need asked)
Delayed symptomatic only testing, really only seems to be useful for identifying symptomatic people. Doesn't seem to be having any effect on breaking the chains of transmission, which is kinda the point of a testing system. Or at least should be...
That would be my logic for bullshitting a test if I felt I needed one. Cause if you are asymptomatic (and I'm not saying you are BB), I'd want to know if I'd was spreading the disease.
Local mtb group on Facebook organising a ride at Innerleithen on Saturday . We’re in glasgow health board . I’m pretty set on just riding old killpatrick’s and Cathkin for a bit and a couple of other local spots but I don’t know if people are going to stick to the 5 mile rule . I’m desperate for a trip to the golfie .
Local mtb group on Facebook organising a ride at Innerleithen on Saturday .
Hmm.
I'm open minded about the moving between health boards for remote solo exercise, but organising a group ride?
Yeah, my local club is still posting rides starting and finishing much futher afield than 5 miles outside our healthboard.
Disappointing as I thought (it's that sort of club) they were all quite reasonable, mild mannered types who I thought would see the benefit of abiding by the rules even if they personally didn't agree with them. Basically, if folk like that aren't following guidelines then it feels like nobody will!
I've abandoned my Trossachs plans for the weekend, hope I don't see a Strava feed full of other people having jollies...
Local mtb group on Facebook organising a ride at Innerleithen on Saturday . We’re in glasgow health board
Aye there's a lot of that going on,it's very much "Rules are for plebs,suck it up losers" #FFS.it'snoworsethantheflu
Nothing short of a curfew is going to stop some folk pissing about .
The game's a bogey and the baw's on the slates 🙁
I raised an eyebrow earlier when an ex work colleague who I think of as pretty decent posted up on Insta and FB with his 347 mile motorbike day out yesterday from Glasgow area to the lakes and back...
….and breathe. Sorry, I can only see the positives of furlough, I’m sure it can be scary/boring/depressing after a while…
Agreed. I was initially glad I was considered useful enough to not get furloughed in the spring, but having to go to work whilst colleagues got most of their pay (average overtime +80%) and weeks off work in the lovely weather soon changed my mind. I'm unlikely to get it this time either but at least those who do will have to put up with crap weather and darkness.
Nobeerinthefridge
Free MemberWhy? I called up at 0830 for a test, got one for 1030, had the negative result for 1530 next day.
Similar here, I literally thought "I wonder what the waiting time is for tests" and in the nearest centre, the answer was "you can have one in 3 minutes" I don't think I really met the criteria but I was the named visitor for my mum in hospital so, I got it done, the centre was quiet and the results came through quick. It was all really good.
So far as I can see the travel restrictions are now by local authority area not healthboard area.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-travel-and-transport/
Yep, that changed last weekend Gordy.
^^^^ yet many continue to rip it and blag about it online.. it’s true what they say about common sense.... it isnae very common.. 🤔
13FM isn't travelling during exercise exempt? Tho I thought groups rides had stopped...
at least those who do will have to put up with crap weather and darkness.
Jeez, bitter!
13FM isn’t travelling during exercise exempt? Tho I thought groups rides had stopped…
It was, until mid-weekish when they introduced a limit on how far outside your own local authority you could drive to start your exercise (5 miles).
So my pals in Aberfoyle either rode there and back from Linlithgow, or ignored the guidance.
yet many continue to rip it and blag about it online
And they'll continue to, what ye gonna do, chin them? no, and they'd tell you to **** off anyway. Avoid social media if it's pissing you off so much.
I had mates that went to Inners a fair few times in April and May, that's up to them, I didn't and still wouldn't but people are different, no point getting in a tiz about it, quite frankly it's way down my list at the moment.
no point getting in a tiz about it, quite frankly it’s way down my list at the moment.
But it's a thing that has the potential to affect everyone. Take the example of my friends car sharing up to Dunkeld in a group of four to spend a day breathing heavily next to each other, almost certainly less than 2m from each other because they're human beings so social creatures. If one of them has Covid then they'll all have Covid, and then they're part of the statistics that leads to the FM telling us all to not travel for even longer.
The sooner people start doing what they're told the sooner they won't need to be told what to do.
^^^^ absolutely agree on that nobeer. I have simply stopped following these people on Insta and Strava etc as it is entirely up to them what they do and if I don't see it I wont even think about it ! Surprising nonetheless when some are high profile, whether bike industry, kit ambassadors etc, buy hey ho, it's all down to individual choice
I appreciate that is stupidity MB, I'm merely making the point that unless you're gonna say something to them, and actually expect them to listen, you're shouting at the moon in here.
To be fair to the mates I mentioned going to Inners and Ae, none of them car shared, that's just mental, spending nearly 2 hours in a car together. Possibly added to the 'amount of cars at inners' posts too, as most of them would've been single occupancy.
munrobiker
Free MemberThe sooner people start doing what they’re told the sooner they won’t need to be told what to do.
And the sooner the government gets its act together in breaking chains of transmission the sooner people can stop their finger wagging.
Hopefully what ever they are doing in liverpool is successful.
Two things we need to break chains of transmission.
! Proactive testing of the vast majority of the population on a regular basis. Followed up by contact tracing.
2 Keep away from other people.
Number one will take a while (if we ever get it in place) number two we can do now.
None of this is easy.
A new low
Some innerleithen locals called the cops about the uplift today and they turned up 😂
wonder why they can't make it law not to travel out of or to tier 3 areas. Seeing plenty of people on IG going to the valley from Glasgow.
Why is that a low Bob?
wonder why they can’t make it law not to travel out of or to tier 3 areas.
Isn't that now being looked at?
Not surprising that Innerleithen locals might be getting pissed off, there's virtually been no Covid cases in the Tweed Valley in the last couple of weeks.
Yet despite travel from the central belt being against the rules, the roads today have been full of cars coming in from the direction of the central belt.
Seems Edinburgh covid cases are dropping pretty rapidly - down to the trigger for level 2 now:
I wonder if the tier will change when they do the review this week?
I can't see it, I think scotgov will want numbers down to lower levels before easing again.
Where's that from YGH?
A colleague this morning been pulled over by police as she headed across the Tay bridge. Police checked her reasoning to go from Fife to Dundee (medical appointment), and sent her on her way. They said that they are now implementing patrols on bridges and key roundabouts to check who is travelling where.
Funnily enough, there was a police car on the Dunblane bypass today (seen on lunch walk), so it does seem they are pulling the net a little tighter.
But, it's not law as yet, is it?
As long as they don't check the cycle lanes. 😉
But, it’s not law as yet, is it?
Nope. She said they made that clear, and she personally feels reassured that they are checking some of the key crossings. Obv's they could tell her address from number plate, so clearly a targeted stop.
And we're (Shetland) finally in proper tier 1 from Friday with 2 households allowed to meet inside. I did worry we might go to 2 as we've had a few cases recently.
Edinburgh remains in 3 despite the fall in cases. I'm miffed
Ah, that means the P&K border a mile from my house is now not 'wrong' to cross. #lookonthebrightside
