Poly
That was my point. Of course anti English racism exists. I have been on the wrong end of it. Neither I or anyone else claimed that it didn't. All I asked was that the troll gave his evidence for the foul allegation. His inability to do spoke loudly
poly
MemberNorthwind,
I paid little attention to the handful of nutters at the border
It's fairly relevant when you're discussing those nutters tbh.
From the owners of the cottage, they cancelled on us.
Even more surprising given that they will have had virtually no income this year. The suspicious side of me wonders if demand is so high they have cancelled and 're-let' at a higher rate.
I really don't get this anti-English stuff as tourism from south of the border makes up a large % of income and employment + many hotels and B+B's are owned and run by English anyway. In a couple of years up there my Wife only came across it once, in Oban, which came as a bit of a shock being a Monkey Hanger and generally accepted as an honorary Jock!
Against my better judgement I'll speak up...
evidence for the foul allegation.
From the photo of the protesters that all the news coverage seemed to run with one of them was dressed as a medieval soldier in a tabard with a lion rampant on it. I (and I assume most people) would associate that with the Scottish Wars of Independence and Scotland fighting English invaders which is I assume what this guy was trying to invoke. In this context I'm unsure how you'd not see that as anti-English?
Or is it semantics? anti-English does not equal racist/xenophobic/jingoistic?
Please don't shut me down as a troll.
For disclosure: Born in England, moved to Scotland as a kid, consider myself Scottish, I'm not against a quarantine at the border, I think Sturgeon is a fantastic politician who does Scotland proud as leader (exemplified by her calling out the neeps at the border)
I have no doubt a xenophobic / racist tinge in their thinking but nothing actually racist in what they were saying or had on their placards.
The lion rampant is the royal standard and almost never seen nowadays in independence circles - the saltire is more common. The lion rampant in itself is not a racist symbol. I saw no racist slogans or banners.
I abhor racism but calling plonkers like this racist devalues the fight against racism
This quote from The National, admittedly not the most unbiased of publications, did give me a laugh.
Asked about a video circulating on social media, in which a man in a fake hazmat suit and tartan facemask can be heard to say “Stay the **** out of Scotland” to the camera, Johnstone said: “I know that one video and that is obviously the thing that’s going to go viral rather than the peaceful stuff.
“To be honest the word ****, it’s just how people talk, and just because he has used that word it doesn’t mean he was being nasty.
Otherwise the group appeared to be at pains to point out there was no racist element. Link to article here
The suspicious side of me wonders if demand is so high they have cancelled and ‘re-let’ at a higher rate.
Yeah, this. I'm not hearing of any such hostility. Certainly not around here, and not via friends in the North West.
We had a cottage near Eskdalemuir cancelled on us too after booking. Seems the people in before us wanted and extra week, so we were out.
Got somewhere between peebles and Innerleithen now instead for a week before we head to North Yorks to see family.
It’s a couple of weeks now until schools resume in Scotland - with no social distancing. What are people’s thoughts on this?
Sturgeon basically explained it as a balance of risks and a judgement call
I'll wait till the details are given tomorrow before speculating.
No social distancing, no idea which plan we are officially going with, no ppe, no information about local shutdown (does it automatically shift to online learning), no mention of testing.
Been told by senior management that not expectation to engage with information until 10/08. To be fair not expecting information until after 10/08.
I'm not overly confident that there won't be some fairly large and disruptive shutdowns as staff show symptoms. I thought track and inform was.meant to be in place before return.
The real things is we need to get back and I really do want to be back in.
Sturgeon basically explained it as a balance of risks and a judgement call
Tj: was this recently? did she show how the risks were ‘balanced’ - or is it basically just a judgement call?
It was in one of the pressers I watched in the last couple of weeks. she did not explain the detail IIRC but did outline that thee are risks either way of different sorts and that it was a judgement call that she was making. Same as allowing kids to play together.
My judgement as an exiled scot is that you've got the prevalence down so low that it's probably a reasonable decision. Schools haven't been a major problem in other countries like Sweden and Denmark AIUI. The pupils themselves will be fine - flu kills more of the young and no-one even thinks about closing in the winter.
Situation in England is rather worse where it seems case numbers are already creeping up and there is no room for manoeuvre at all.
gauss1777
MemberIt’s a couple of weeks now until schools resume in Scotland – with no social distancing. What are people’s thoughts on this?
It's a pretty scary moment but tbh the level of infection in the scottish population is now very, very low, so I suspect it still works out safe, with the obvious advantage of less disrupted schooling for those kids to offset the risk. I guess we'll see but it seems like it's not too early to start reaping hte benefits.
I do wonder if it might cause a knockon "everything is fine" effect but so far Scotland seems to have been relatively resistant to those
I was in N Yorkshire for 2 days last week and it's like nothing has ever happened in a lot of places. The Campsite was ... interesting ... not a lot of social distancing going on. Bogs etc were well organised. Went to the pub - one was brilliant, one way system, facemasks etc, the other one across the road was properly scary, no masks, no distancing from staff, menus on tables, shared bottles etc - again, like nothing had happened. Weird. Scotland feels much safer right now !
IMO there are two reasons for that. One is the consistent and clear message from the scottish government and the second is the slightly smug attitude of " we will show we are better than them"
Finally got my tramp stamp done! Tattooist had way higher sterility procedures than my doctors or dentist has, good to see him back at work.
IMO there are two reasons for that. One is the consistent and clear message from the scottish government and the second is the slightly smug attitude of ” we will show we are better than them”
Or it could be confirmation bias.
It’s a couple of weeks now until schools resume in Scotland – with no social distancing. What are people’s thoughts on this?
we don't know what is happening in schools at the moment. We will hear on the 30th wither we are starting with blended learning or normal.
Kids don't social distance anyway from what I've seen. Its a pain in the ass for me as I start my probation and I don't have a timetable or know what is going on with little time left to prepare.
we don’t know what is happening in schools at the moment. We will hear on the 30th wither we are starting with blended learning or normal.
I’ve been reading the minutes from different government groups, which whilst being rather vague, strongly suggest we’ll be back on the 10th.
Kids don’t social distance anyway from what I’ve seen.
I’m not sure what your point is here.
I start my probation and I don’t have a timetable or know what is going on with little time left to prepare.
I can understand your anxiety, but from my experience your timetable will change a couple of times in the first week, then several times randomly throughout the year. Good luck. Also, the pupils will be far from ready to work at anything like the pace you’d expect or desire for the first week and a half. That will give you time to get on top of things.
Also, the pupils will be far from ready to work at anything like the pace you’d expect or desire for the first week and a half
It's going to be interesting to see how pupils re-engage. Some never disengaged and some who did will take it in their stride but there's bound to be a number who'll struggle to get back into the structure and discipline of school.
Indeed, in my experience it takes a good week or so anyway. However, as for those who’ve been playing on their Xbox for the past (is it really) 4 or 5 months goodness only knows.
I’ve been reading the minutes from different government groups, which whilst being rather vague, strongly suggest we’ll be back on the 10th.
we are going back on the 10th with pupils returning on the 12th.
I’m not sure what your point is here.
kids don't social distance the now so not doing it at school isn't going to make much difference.
However, as for those who’ve been playing on their Xbox for the past (is it really) 4 or 5 months goodness only knows
no different to what I've been doing mostly lol
We're back on the 10th. There'll be a lot of folk reconfiguring their rooms again.
Biggest advantage will be a greatly reduced talking at with management telling us how well they've done getting the kids the good results and how disappointing it is the staff let down those that didn't achieve.
management telling us how well they’ve done getting the kids the good results and how disappointing it is the staff let down those that didn’t achieve.
Does that happen where you teach? Not something I've ever seen!
It may be an exaggeration.
We're going to have an issue with results though. Previously we were never allowed to predict 8/9 for N5/H and only what they have achieved in a prelim/miniprelim, which is always improved on. So traditionally our estimates are not accurate.
Everyone will likely be in the same boat with that though. I don't know the fine detail of the SQA procedure but I'd expect* them to allow for that kind of thing.
*Well, hope any way.
Spin, there will be an appeals system this year, like in the old days. Schools will be allowed to appeal with evidence, ie if they had done any unit assessments/ prelims etc. A bit of a step away from the "trusting professionals judgement" coming out of Shawfair in March mind!
Spin, there will be an appeals system this year, like in the old days
I know that. What I'm not sure about is exactly how the SQA will incorporate past results and estimates into the awarding of a pupil's grade. That was the bit onehundredthidiot was worried about.
I am worried they will base what they give on previous years results, I had a cracking higher class this year in contrast to 19/20. Invites have been going out to folk involved in verification in my subject to mark evidence to support appeals.
Can we have a separate teachers thread? 😎
Let's not,can we all just pretend we aren't going back in a couple of weeks instead? Speculation on exams what teaching will look like is just that, 2 weeks is a long time just now.
can we all just pretend we aren’t going back in a couple of weeks instead?
My 13 year old is playing that game!
So is mine! With a wee bit of dread thrown in because he rubbered French and Drama during lockdown.
Lol!
I keeptelling her it'll be the best thing to happen, to get back into it. I've turned into my dad. 😂
Duckers same here previous years higher class split between teachers last two years just me. Last year my "added value" number was best in the school. This year's class were better. N5 EnvSci last year loads of drop out only 1 sat it and bombed. This year 14 kids not one failed the prelim because the approach I took was completely different.
I'm guessing there will be 0,000s of appeals.
IMO there are two reasons for that. One is the consistent and clear message from the scottish government and the second is the slightly smug attitude of ” we will show we are better than them”
I spent most of lockdown in Cumbria then have been back in Glasgow quite a bit since things eased a little. It certainly feels less scary in Scotland. I think the clear messaging part is very true and the fact that when key figures broke rules there were consequences. I also think Scotland is just a less individualistic society, and individualism isn't helpful in a situation like this.
I am going over to weggieville on the train for the first time since all this started. Hardly anyone on the train. No one without masks
12:15 here we go hopefully answers in this briefing.
because the approach I took was completely different
interested to hear what you did?
according to the BBC "Scotland's cabinet is due to sign off plans today for the full-time return of pupils from 11 August"
Did they not basically announce that weeks ago, without the details as such?
pretty much - find out tomorrow exactly what is happening.
So, Basically, the kids will be in their normal seats, no social distancing required, teacher will have to stay 1m away, 2m if possible?.
